Dirt4: Love it!

[MrStef85 15]

I have played a lot of DR, but i like D4 more.

Why:

More content
Better Rallycross
Better soundtrack
Not some kinda empty feeling when i'm playing it. Not the hoovercraft feeling when driving.

DR had better locations imo. Maybe they gonna release DLC with new locations. I hope they gonna add Barcelona and Hockenheim tot RX, and some new locations for Rally.

Please note:

Just my opinion.

[MaShMaN94 0]

whats the point in more locations when they'll have the same sections repeated over and over. Sure Dirt Rally had you playing the same stages over and over but at least they were fun to drive on. If its Proper developer made rally stages that are as good as the DiRT rally real life stages that would be awesome! not some computer generated nonsense that turned out to be a complete dissapointment. I can see a  heres a your stage hairpin and acute left pack for $5 dlc coming....No thanks    

[MrStef85 15]

I like the generator because you can't practice a stage like in Dirt Rally. Yes, it's repetitive some times..but DR hadn't enough tracks imo.

[Decks 342]

Loosen up the gravel handling and increase the vibration ffb for bumps and it'll be pretty much perfect for me. 

[MaShMaN94 0]

MrStef85 said:

I like the generator because you can't practice a stage like in Dirt Rally. Yes, it's repetitive some times..but DR hadn't enough tracks imo.

But you can learn the sections quickly enough they're repeated so many times

[MaShMaN94 0]

DiRT 4 is the simpletons version of Dirt rally   

[MaShMaN94 0]

Deckard how can you disagree when its there in your face?  Obviously you dont like hearing the truth. Id like to hear what you have to say. If i had the means to do it i could record a video right now and guarnteed you'll see the same sections of track repeated over and over sometimes multiple times on the same stage . Id like to hear from anyone that says the your stage isnt just reapted sections over and over. Plenty of evidence on YouTube and you can actually play it for more than 5 minutes to see for yourself.  

[bogani 756]

MaShMaN94 said:

Deckard how can you disagree when its there in your face?  Obviously you dont like hearing the truth. Id like to hear what you have to say. If i had the means to do it i could record a video right now and guarnteed you'll see the same sections of track repeated over and over sometimes multiple times on the same stage . Id like to hear from anyone that says the your stage isnt just reapted sections over and over. Plenty of evidence on YouTube and you can actually play it for more than 5 minutes to see for yourself.  

Well yeah, that is how the generator works. It's not coming up with road as it generates, it's just stitching together different tiles. I agree, you do come across the same tile quite often but I kind of expected that to be honest.

[MaShMaN94 0]

bogani said:

MaShMaN94 said:

Deckard how can you disagree when its there in your face?  Obviously you dont like hearing the truth. Id like to hear what you have to say. If i had the means to do it i could record a video right now and guarnteed you'll see the same sections of track repeated over and over sometimes multiple times on the same stage . Id like to hear from anyone that says the your stage isnt just reapted sections over and over. Plenty of evidence on YouTube and you can actually play it for more than 5 minutes to see for yourself.  

Well yeah, that is how the generator works. It's not coming up with road as it generates, it's just stitching together different tiles. I agree, you do come across the same tile quite often but I kind of expected that to be honest.

Thank you! At least someones not completely blind to it.  That is the main problem with the game i dont understand the people that disagree and say its fine when its clearly not. Give us some good designed hand made rally stages but keep the generator in there for those that want it and keep working and improving on it. Its a good foundation to build on but its just not great right now,im not a fan at all    

[MaShMaN94 0]

Inb4 Deckard the massive fanyboy disagrees with my latest post. The guy that probably buys the same Call of duty every year and gives it a 10/10.   But dislike away bud whatever makes you sleep at night.

[versedi 39]

MaShMaN94 said:

bogani said:

MaShMaN94 said:

Deckard how can you disagree when its there in your face?  Obviously you dont like hearing the truth. Id like to hear what you have to say. If i had the means to do it i could record a video right now and guarnteed you'll see the same sections of track repeated over and over sometimes multiple times on the same stage . Id like to hear from anyone that says the your stage isnt just reapted sections over and over. Plenty of evidence on YouTube and you can actually play it for more than 5 minutes to see for yourself.  

Well yeah, that is how the generator works. It's not coming up with road as it generates, it's just stitching together different tiles. I agree, you do come across the same tile quite often but I kind of expected that to be honest.

Thank you! At least someones not completely blind to it.  That is the main problem with the game i dont understand the people that disagree and say its fine when its clearly not. Give us some good designed hand made rally stages but keep the generator in there for those that want it and keep working and improving on it. Its a good foundation to build on but its just not great right now,im not a fan at all    

It's an issue though not so big as you make it. You still don't know till the last few metres which tile is it (unless it's Sweden or Austrialia big downhill with chicane).

Your Stage has bring the core of rally to the game. You need to listen to your codriver.

I suspect you're a typical hotlapper.

[MaShMaN94 0]

versedi said:

MaShMaN94 said:

bogani said:

MaShMaN94 said:

Deckard how can you disagree when its there in your face?  Obviously you dont like hearing the truth. Id like to hear what you have to say. If i had the means to do it i could record a video right now and guarnteed you'll see the same sections of track repeated over and over sometimes multiple times on the same stage . Id like to hear from anyone that says the your stage isnt just reapted sections over and over. Plenty of evidence on YouTube and you can actually play it for more than 5 minutes to see for yourself.  

Well yeah, that is how the generator works. It's not coming up with road as it generates, it's just stitching together different tiles. I agree, you do come across the same tile quite often but I kind of expected that to be honest.

Thank you! At least someones not completely blind to it.  That is the main problem with the game i dont understand the people that disagree and say its fine when its clearly not. Give us some good designed hand made rally stages but keep the generator in there for those that want it and keep working and improving on it. Its a good foundation to build on but its just not great right now,im not a fan at all    

It's an issue though not so big as you make it. You still don't know till the last few metres which tile is it (unless it's Sweden or Austrialia big downhill with chicane).

Your Stage has bring the core of rally to the game. You need to listen to your codriver.

I suspect you're a typical hotlapper.

No shit you need to listen to your co driver but no point in the co driver when you've done the same section a thousand times over.  Forgot to say the reason i Wouldn't mind seeing handmade stages is because your stage is dull and boring after a while no fun to drive. 

[versedi 39]

MaShMaN94 said:

versedi said:

MaShMaN94 said:

bogani said:

MaShMaN94 said:

Deckard how can you disagree when its there in your face?  Obviously you dont like hearing the truth. Id like to hear what you have to say. If i had the means to do it i could record a video right now and guarnteed you'll see the same sections of track repeated over and over sometimes multiple times on the same stage . Id like to hear from anyone that says the your stage isnt just reapted sections over and over. Plenty of evidence on YouTube and you can actually play it for more than 5 minutes to see for yourself.  

Well yeah, that is how the generator works. It's not coming up with road as it generates, it's just stitching together different tiles. I agree, you do come across the same tile quite often but I kind of expected that to be honest.

Thank you! At least someones not completely blind to it.  That is the main problem with the game i dont understand the people that disagree and say its fine when its clearly not. Give us some good designed hand made rally stages but keep the generator in there for those that want it and keep working and improving on it. Its a good foundation to build on but its just not great right now,im not a fan at all    

It's an issue though not so big as you make it. You still don't know till the last few metres which tile is it (unless it's Sweden or Austrialia big downhill with chicane).

Your Stage has bring the core of rally to the game. You need to listen to your codriver.

I suspect you're a typical hotlapper.

No **** you need to listen to your co driver but no point in the co driver when you've done the same section a thousand times over. 

How do you know that section will appear after this big jump here and not the 1-left in 500m?

[RodgerDavies 933]

Your opinion is not a fact @MaShMaN94 . I respect your right to say it (and actually agree with most parts), but please don't confuse your opinions with 'the truth'.

Now, that said, I agree about repeated stages, but also the number of environments is at a bare minimum for my personal tastes.

I don't think hand built stages need to return, unless they are one stage per 'day' and then mixed in with the generated ones.

This is a first attempt at this new technology, remember. Now, the morals of using customers as a test-bed for this is debatable, but enough people (including myself) are enjoying it and there's no way they could develop a "perfect" version of this tech in a single iteration and expect enough time to do so. I felt more conned by DR's "12 stages per location" claim than this tech, which does as described (if not as overhyped).

But think of the potential this has. With RBR and CMR, the stages were all perfectly learnable, however many they had. DR's were excellent, but so limited (2 per country) that it stopped being a rally game. 

D4 might not be perfect, but it's a huge step on the way towards a perfect rally game. If we can't appreciate that, I can't see that CM will have the motivation to keep improving it (especially when RX is there as a relatively 'simple' alternative).

As for your point about wanting more locations; I would do, yes, especially a tarmac environment more 'classic' than Spain's twisty but perfect roads, but I'd also be just as happy to see the number of tiles in existing locations increase.

[MaShMaN94 0]

RodgerDavies said:

Your opinion is not a fact sir. I respect your right to say it (and actually agree with most parts), but please don't confuse your opinions with 'the truth'.

Now, that said, I agree about repeated stages, but also the number of environments is at a bare minimum for my personal tastes.

I don't think hand built stages need to return, unless they are one stage per 'day' and then mixed in with the generated ones.

This is a first attempt at this new technology, remember. Now, the morals of using customers as a test-bed for this is debatable, but enough people (including myself) are enjoying it and there's no way they could develop a "perfect" version of this tech in a single iteration and expect enough time to do so. I felt more conned by DR's "12 stages per location" claim than this tech, which does as described (if not as overhyped).

But think of the potential this has. With RBR and CMR, the stages were all perfectly learnable, however many they had. DR's were excellent, but so limited (2 per country) that it stopped being a rally game. 

D4 might not be perfect, but it's a huge step on the way towards a perfect rally game. If we can't appreciate that, I can't see that CM will have the motivation to keep improving it (especially when RX is there as a relatively 'simple' alternative).

As for your point about wanting more locations; I would do, yes, especially a tarmac environment more 'classic' than Spain's twisty but perfect roads, but I'd also be just as happy to see the number of tiles in existing locations increase.

It is truth you said so yourself. What isnt true about what i said? 

[versedi 39]

MaShMaN94 said:

(...)

i Wouldn't mind seeing handmade stages is because your stage is dull and boring after a while no fun to drive. 

This.
How handmade stages are not dull and boring if you know every single tree and rock after finishing it 3-5 times?

[MaShMaN94 0]

versedi said:

MaShMaN94 said:

(...)

i Wouldn't mind seeing handmade stages is because your stage is dull and boring after a while no fun to drive. 

This.
How handmade stages are not dull and boring if you know every single tree and rock after finishing it 3-5 times?

If they're fun to drive and actually have abit of life to them id take handmade stages that are fun over dull repeated sections of track over over generated by the computer   

[versedi 39]

My point is: whatever developers would do, you'd still be unhappy and feel dull and boring. You just prooved it in your last comment.

[RodgerDavies 933]

MaShMaN94 said:

RodgerDavies said:

Your opinion is not a fact sir. I respect your right to say it (and actually agree with most parts), but please don't confuse your opinions with 'the truth'.

Now, that said, I agree about repeated stages, but also the number of environments is at a bare minimum for my personal tastes.

I don't think hand built stages need to return, unless they are one stage per 'day' and then mixed in with the generated ones.

This is a first attempt at this new technology, remember. Now, the morals of using customers as a test-bed for this is debatable, but enough people (including myself) are enjoying it and there's no way they could develop a "perfect" version of this tech in a single iteration and expect enough time to do so. I felt more conned by DR's "12 stages per location" claim than this tech, which does as described (if not as overhyped).

But think of the potential this has. With RBR and CMR, the stages were all perfectly learnable, however many they had. DR's were excellent, but so limited (2 per country) that it stopped being a rally game. 

D4 might not be perfect, but it's a huge step on the way towards a perfect rally game. If we can't appreciate that, I can't see that CM will have the motivation to keep improving it (especially when RX is there as a relatively 'simple' alternative).

As for your point about wanting more locations; I would do, yes, especially a tarmac environment more 'classic' than Spain's twisty but perfect roads, but I'd also be just as happy to see the number of tiles in existing locations increase.

It is truth you said so yourself. What isnt true about what i said? 

Because that's my opinion, it's not a fact. Others don't have to agree with me.

[MaShMaN94 0]

versedi said:

My point is: whatever developers would do, you'd still be unhappy and feel dull and boring. You just prooved it in your last comment.

300+ hours on DiRT rally says differently. Despite having not much content    

[versedi 39]

I'll only add this as an counter-argument to "1000 times" and "identical":



http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=240083844&postcount=177

[MaShMaN94 0]

versedi said:

I'll only add this as an counter-argument to "1000 times" and "identical":



http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=240083844&postcount=177

?

[RodgerDavies 933]

MaShMaN94 said:

versedi said:

I'll only add this as an counter-argument to "1000 times" and "identical":



http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=240083844&postcount=177

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Same 'tile', looks different each time.

[MaShMaN94 0]

RodgerDavies said:

MaShMaN94 said:

versedi said:

I'll only add this as an counter-argument to "1000 times" and "identical":



http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=240083844&postcount=177

?

Same 'tile', looks different each time.

Lmao still the same section of road. Only thing different is the environment. but who looks at that while going 100mph 

[MaShMaN94 0]

MaShMaN94 said:

RodgerDavies said:

MaShMaN94 said:

versedi said:

I'll only add this as an counter-argument to "1000 times" and "identical":



http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=240083844&postcount=177

?

Same 'tile', looks different each time.

Lmao still the same section of road. Only thing different is the environment. but who looks at that while going 100mph 

Oh and the sponsor sign is a little higher off the ground