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Again, we ask for an explanation from the company. They say we listen to the community!! 88% of those who voted want official HUD. Business wise it is normal that the company give arguments why they choose their own HUD, especially since we have asked for it for many years. 

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Company? Codemasters? Again no reaction why we dont get the official graphics on screen. They just answering questions which the want to answer. Big shame! 88% voters want to see the official broadcast graphics. Doesnt matter if a small version or all graphics. WE WANT IT. Oh, hey. Not since yesterday. Since 3 years we are talking about our wish with demo pictures how it could look like. But no reaction by anybody from Codemasters. Or some likes and reactions on our demo pictures. There is silence day by day. And thats why we are so angry. Thats why Community users start to fight with eachother. CODEMASTERS REACT NOW! "WHY WE DON'T GET AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN THE OFFICIAL BROADCAST GRAPHICS ON SCREEN?"

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Roberto31 said:
Again, we ask for an explanation from the company. They say we listen to the community!! 88% of those who voted want official HUD. Business wise it is normal that the company give arguments why they choose their own HUD, especially since we have asked for it for many years. 
liveTOwin said:
Company? Codemasters? Again no reaction why we dont get the official graphics on screen. They just answering questions which the want to answer. Big shame! 88% voters want to see the official broadcast graphics. Doesnt matter if a small version or all graphics. WE WANT IT. Oh, hey. Not since yesterday. Since 3 years we are talking about our wish with demo pictures how it could look like. But no reaction by anybody from Codemasters. Or some likes and reactions on our demo pictures. There is silence day by day. And thats why we are so angry. Thats why Community users start to fight with eachother. CODEMASTERS REACT NOW! "WHY WE DON'T GET AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN THE OFFICIAL BROADCAST GRAPHICS ON SCREEN?"
Just saying, if you really, and I mean REALLY want answer, your best bet is to go ask about it in Twitter from Lee Mather. Since, like you have seen, there's really rare occasion of questions, that has been answered by Codemasters staff member here on forums. Raging about "WHY WE DON'T GET OFFICIAL BROADCAST GRAPHICS STYLED HUD TO THE GAME, EVEN THOUGH 88% OF VOTERS TO A STUPID POLL WANTS IT TO BE IN THE GAME" doesn't get your question answered.
And just an fyi: The answer, if you choose to ask the question in Twitter from anyone, who's working with the game, might just be something, that you don't like.
And don't get me wrong, even though I don't want it to be implemented into HUD of the game, it doesn't mean, that what we have "would" be better. It's just, that the HUD we have is made to be used as HUD, as official broadcast graphics isn't. It's made to be used as broadcast graphics. It's not called HUD, it's called BROADCAST GRAPHICS. Of course it shouldn't be that hard to make lighter version of it to be used as a HUD in game, but, like I said, it wasn't originally made to be used as HUD of a game.

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Tunari89 said:
Roberto31 said:
Again, we ask for an explanation from the company. They say we listen to the community!! 88% of those who voted want official HUD. Business wise it is normal that the company give arguments why they choose their own HUD, especially since we have asked for it for many years. 
liveTOwin said:
Company? Codemasters? Again no reaction why we dont get the official graphics on screen. They just answering questions which the want to answer. Big shame! 88% voters want to see the official broadcast graphics. Doesnt matter if a small version or all graphics. WE WANT IT. Oh, hey. Not since yesterday. Since 3 years we are talking about our wish with demo pictures how it could look like. But no reaction by anybody from Codemasters. Or some likes and reactions on our demo pictures. There is silence day by day. And thats why we are so angry. Thats why Community users start to fight with eachother. CODEMASTERS REACT NOW! "WHY WE DON'T GET AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN THE OFFICIAL BROADCAST GRAPHICS ON SCREEN?"
Just saying, if you really, and I mean REALLY want answer, your best bet is to go ask about it in Twitter from Lee Mather. Since, like you have seen, there's really rare occasion of questions, that has been answered by Codemasters staff member here on forums. Raging about "WHY WE DON'T GET OFFICIAL BROADCAST GRAPHICS STYLED HUD TO THE GAME, EVEN THOUGH 88% OF VOTERS TO A STUPID POLL WANTS IT TO BE IN THE GAME" doesn't get your question answered.
And just an fyi: The answer, if you choose to ask the question in Twitter from anyone, who's working with the game, might just be something, that you don't like.
And don't get me wrong, even though I don't want it to be implemented into HUD of the game, it doesn't mean, that what we have "would" be better. It's just, that the HUD we have is made to be used as HUD, as official broadcast graphics isn't. It's made to be used as broadcast graphics. It's not called HUD, it's called BROADCAST GRAPHICS. Of course it shouldn't be that hard to make lighter version of it to be used as a HUD in game, but, like I said, it wasn't originally made to be used as HUD of a game.
Why should we go outside of the official community of the official f1 game to get our answers?  @faya what's happened to the more open and transparency that was promised?

Is there any way to get a final answer on the rhyme and reasoning on this?

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@Tunari89

Mate, have you even seen the new official Broadcast Graphics / HUD?

It looks cartoonish as hell as if it was specifically made for a videogame, thus it surely does fit any, hypothetical, official F1 game or content by all means as it clearly isn't obstructive nor intrusive at all (something that liveTOwin impressively has already proven with his amazing concept arts).

Even if it was both obstructive and or intrusive, all the other officially licenced sportsgames (FIFA / NBA / NHL / MLB / NASCAR / NFL / Olympia / Handball / WWE / UFC / Tour de France / MotoGP / WRC / Rugby etc.) have got the official TV presentation as default even though some of them look totally hideous and unappealing to the point that one could question the artistic abilities of the designers.

Also, ironically, almost all the old F1 Games had the official HUD as well, so why the feck should Codemasters not take the same path?

Official licence = Official Presentation (MUST HAVE)

There is no inbetween, unless of course the gaming studio wants to offer the official HUD + their selfmade HUD at the same time to make all parties happy, but that is a matter of personal choice.

Still, leaving the fanbase with no answer as to why they won't include certain features FOR YEARS is a sign of bad customer service, which is absolutely inexcusable and most importantly unacceptable behaviour from a company that is most definitely interested in generating profits through our hardearned money, but then again as long as the sales are up they probably won't give a damn, so for us there are only 5 solutions left to give a clear message to this mess and have clarity for once:

1.Boycott the product alltogether (only for the truly dedicated people that won't break their word and want to keep themselves safe from scammers / unmotivated developers / greedy studios etc.).

2.Buy second hand (only for those that do share the sentiment of boycott, still want to have the experience of the game but do not want to become a criminal by pirating or nuking humanity into oblivion).

3.Delay purchase to wait for a sale or a warehouse deal (only for those that still have a little hope in Codemasters and want to support the company with a small fee).

4.Piracy (only for those that do not believe in our massively biased and corrupted monetary system but rather sail under the flag of pure freedom).

5.Nuke Humanity (only for those that want to make an end to the parasites called humans once and for all).

#VoteWithYourWallet

PS: My pick is #5, so for safety measures, never let me near a military headquarter that got the remote controls for nuclear weapons..... 

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Tunari89 said:
Roberto31 said:
Again, we ask for an explanation from the company. They say we listen to the community!! 88% of those who voted want official HUD. Business wise it is normal that the company give arguments why they choose their own HUD, especially since we have asked for it for many years. 
liveTOwin said:
Company? Codemasters? Again no reaction why we dont get the official graphics on screen. They just answering questions which the want to answer. Big shame! 88% voters want to see the official broadcast graphics. Doesnt matter if a small version or all graphics. WE WANT IT. Oh, hey. Not since yesterday. Since 3 years we are talking about our wish with demo pictures how it could look like. But no reaction by anybody from Codemasters. Or some likes and reactions on our demo pictures. There is silence day by day. And thats why we are so angry. Thats why Community users start to fight with eachother. CODEMASTERS REACT NOW! "WHY WE DON'T GET AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN THE OFFICIAL BROADCAST GRAPHICS ON SCREEN?"
Just saying, if you really, and I mean REALLY want answer, your best bet is to go ask about it in Twitter from Lee Mather. Since, like you have seen, there's really rare occasion of questions, that has been answered by Codemasters staff member here on forums. Raging about "WHY WE DON'T GET OFFICIAL BROADCAST GRAPHICS STYLED HUD TO THE GAME, EVEN THOUGH 88% OF VOTERS TO A STUPID POLL WANTS IT TO BE IN THE GAME" doesn't get your question answered.
And just an fyi: The answer, if you choose to ask the question in Twitter from anyone, who's working with the game, might just be something, that you don't like.
And don't get me wrong, even though I don't want it to be implemented into HUD of the game, it doesn't mean, that what we have "would" be better. It's just, that the HUD we have is made to be used as HUD, as official broadcast graphics isn't. It's made to be used as broadcast graphics. It's not called HUD, it's called BROADCAST GRAPHICS. Of course it shouldn't be that hard to make lighter version of it to be used as a HUD in game, but, like I said, it wasn't originally made to be used as HUD of a game.
Why should we go outside of the official community of the official f1 game to get our answers?  @faya what's happened to the more open and transparency that was promised?

Is there any way to get a final answer on the rhyme and reasoning on this?
Because you want answers maybe?

People getting so upset when someone explains them something that is very obvious, I don't get that. I really don't understand why people are still on this forum trying to get answers as already for years it has been clear that the forum is the last place where information is shared?

We are living in 2018. Forums are from the past, to pass on news and updates social media is way more convenient. That's why you should go outside of the "official" community forum from Codemasters and ask the questions at the official Twitter account. The world has evolved so should you.

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@Tunari89

Mate, have you even seen the new official Broadcast Graphics / HUD?

It looks cartoonish as hell as if it was specifically made for a videogame, thus it surely does fit any, hypothetical, official F1 game or content by all means as it clearly isn't obstructive nor intrusive at all (something that liveTOwin impressively has already proven with his amazing concept arts).

Even if it was both obstructive and or intrusive, all the other officially licenced sportsgames (FIFA / NBA / NHL / MLB / NASCAR / NFL / Olympia / Handball / WWE / UFC / Tour de France / MotoGP / WRC / Rugby etc.) have got the official TV presentation as default even though some of them look totally hideous and unappealing to the point that one could question the artistic abilities of the designers.

Also, ironically, almost all the old F1 Games had the official HUD as well, so why the feck should Codemasters not take the same path?

Official licence = Official Presentation (MUST HAVE)

There is no inbetween, unless of course the gaming studio wants to offer the official HUD + their selfmade HUD at the same time to make all parties happy, but that is a matter of personal choice.

Still, leaving the fanbase with no answer as to why they won't include certain features FOR YEARS is a sign of bad customer service, which is absolutely inexcusable and most importantly unacceptable behaviour from a company that is most definitely interested in generating profits through our hardearned money, but then again as long as the sales are up they probably won't give a damn, so for us there are only 5 solutions left to give a clear message to this mess and have clarity for once:

1.Boycott the product alltogether (only for the truly dedicated people that won't break their word and want to keep themselves safe from scammers / unmotivated developers / greedy studios etc.).

2.Buy second hand (only for those that do share the sentiment of boycott, still want to have the experience of the game but do not want to become a criminal by pirating or nuking humanity into oblivion).

3.Delay purchase to wait for a sale or a warehouse deal (only for those that still have a little hope in Codemasters and want to support the company with a small fee).

4.Piracy (only for those that do not believe in our massively biased and corrupted monetary system but rather sale under the flag of pure freedom).

5.Nuke Humanity (only for those that want to make an end to the parasites called humans once and for all).

#VoteWithYourWallet

PS: My pick is #5, so for safety measures, never let me near a military headquarter that got the remote controls for nuclear weapons..... 
All I know, that 06 (CE) had HUD designed after the official Broadcast style graphics.
Earlier Sony series, I don't know, since I haven't watched game play vids, nor have played them.
Geoff Crammond's GP series had the official broadcast graphics on trackside camera view, but not on T-cam or other camera views (I have GP3 AND GP4, so don't even try to debunk this)

And while yes, the new graphics are cartoonish, it STILL doesn't mean, that it would of been made to be used as HUD of the game. 
And Official licence doesn't equal official presentation. We have HUD style that, yet again, DOES THE BLOODY JOB. And does it well enough to nullify your childish rages about having official graphics as HUD.

And while you got the point on "Still, leaving the fanbase with no answer as to why they won't include certain features FOR YEARS is a sign of bad customer service, which is absolutely inexcusable and most importantly unacceptable behaviour from a company that is most definitely interested in generating profits through our hardearned money, but then again as long as the sales are up they probably won't give a damn"
doesn't mean, that you should start raging about wanting answer, when, like I already said, raging about it won't get your question answered.

And, what comes to your 5 points:
  1. Go ahead, boycott the game all you want. It's your choice. This again, is one of those childish "I WANT IT, AND I WANT IT NAO!!!!11!!" temper tantrums. Of course, everyone can do whatever they please to do.
  2. Except, at the moment, it looks, like the gaming industry is trying to go for digital only releases more and more. This way, they can eliminate second hand market, oh, well...
  3. Again, everyone can do whatever they please. The delaying of purchase might even be smart, so you don't need to put up with all of the "game breaking bugs", that for some reason go unfixed before launch (even though I myself haven't ever come across any "game breaking bugs", even when I have gotten the game at launch)
  4. You SERIOUSLY just told someone to pirate the game on game publishers official forum? Dang, you must be... Oh, wait. Let's not go there.
  5. Aha. Right... I don't even have anything to say about this one...
And you can vote with you wallet all you want. Except this issue, if you can even call it issue is not big enough to boycott something.
Having official broadcast graphics as HUD IS NOT good reason to boycott something. 
Having unplayable mess of a multiplayer, that is if multiplayer is only thing you play, is.

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Why should we go outside of the official community of the official f1 game to get our answers?  @faya what's happened to the more open and transparency that was promised?

Is there any way to get a final answer on the rhyme and reasoning on this?
Oh, why you should go to other places to ask questions? How many times you have seen any of community managers answer a question on these forums? 
If your answer to my question is either "none" or "only a few times", then my answer to you is: That's what I thought.
Because, like I said, raging about something is not going to get your question answered.

Then again, I myself haven't ever asked anything here, because I haven't needed to ask anything, so... Yeah. That actually makes my point of view bit redundant...

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Tunari89 said:
Roberto31 said:
Again, we ask for an explanation from the company. They say we listen to the community!! 88% of those who voted want official HUD. Business wise it is normal that the company give arguments why they choose their own HUD, especially since we have asked for it for many years. 
liveTOwin said:
Company? Codemasters? Again no reaction why we dont get the official graphics on screen. They just answering questions which the want to answer. Big shame! 88% voters want to see the official broadcast graphics. Doesnt matter if a small version or all graphics. WE WANT IT. Oh, hey. Not since yesterday. Since 3 years we are talking about our wish with demo pictures how it could look like. But no reaction by anybody from Codemasters. Or some likes and reactions on our demo pictures. There is silence day by day. And thats why we are so angry. Thats why Community users start to fight with eachother. CODEMASTERS REACT NOW! "WHY WE DON'T GET AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN THE OFFICIAL BROADCAST GRAPHICS ON SCREEN?"
Just saying, if you really, and I mean REALLY want answer, your best bet is to go ask about it in Twitter from Lee Mather. Since, like you have seen, there's really rare occasion of questions, that has been answered by Codemasters staff member here on forums. Raging about "WHY WE DON'T GET OFFICIAL BROADCAST GRAPHICS STYLED HUD TO THE GAME, EVEN THOUGH 88% OF VOTERS TO A STUPID POLL WANTS IT TO BE IN THE GAME" doesn't get your question answered.
And just an fyi: The answer, if you choose to ask the question in Twitter from anyone, who's working with the game, might just be something, that you don't like.
And don't get me wrong, even though I don't want it to be implemented into HUD of the game, it doesn't mean, that what we have "would" be better. It's just, that the HUD we have is made to be used as HUD, as official broadcast graphics isn't. It's made to be used as broadcast graphics. It's not called HUD, it's called BROADCAST GRAPHICS. Of course it shouldn't be that hard to make lighter version of it to be used as a HUD in game, but, like I said, it wasn't originally made to be used as HUD of a game.
Why should we go outside of the official community of the official f1 game to get our answers?  @faya what's happened to the more open and transparency that was promised?

Is there any way to get a final answer on the rhyme and reasoning on this?

You may not like it but both @Tunari89 and @BelgiumDude are right. Developers don't usually answer questions on their own forums anymore they do it via social media networks such as Twitter and Reddit or whatever it's called. As I remember having a question about Mass Effect Andromeda last year before it was released so I asked one of Bioware's developers on Twitter and got an answer to my question. Forums these days are only used for 2/3 things now. General promotion and discussion of games and bug reports for games that have been released so they know what needs fixing. They are not these days used for interacting with developers themselves any more

A suggestion for @Faya @jennyannem and various mods it may be a good idea to set up a twitter thread on the various sections to help spread what's been talked about there on here kind of like what we have on Bioware's forums

This is what I'm talking about

http://bsn.boards.net/thread/26/mass-effect-twitter-thread?page=1375

http://bsn.boards.net/thread/57/dragon-age-twitter-thread


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Hi all,

First of all, please stay civil. If you feel someone has broken the forum rules, please flag the post for the team to take a look at and do not respond in kind.

In regards to the official HUD and broadcast graphics, like you the first time we really saw the new F1 broadcast rebrand was when it was revealed live to the general public which came right at the end of our development cycle for F1 2018....and at the moment F1 are continuing to refine it as they go. Rest assured that we are looking to introduce the official graphics over time. You will start to see some elements being brought into this year’s game – (and you’ve heard this here first) the intro, the theme music, track maps, which bring us more in line with the official broadcast approach – and we will continue to add more into the next game. Since gaming is interactive whereas watching Formula 1 isn’t, there will inevitably be some components which won’t work, but the intention is for us to incorporate the new branding into our official F1 products where it makes sense to do so.

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Everyone take a deep breath. Clearly the majority want it, some don't. The poll speaks volumes, you guys bickering at each other doesn't do anyone any favours. 
To be fair to codemasters, they did respond a while back saying they will consider it in future releases (this was a response to exclusion of F1 2017).
Point being, clearly all they need to do is see the poll stats, our comments towards each other are hair and teeth pulling. If they were to read them for any further insight they'd quickly stop.

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Is it possible to add the official HUD in a later update after release?

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Faya said:

Hi all,

First of all, please stay civil. If you feel someone has broken the forum rules, please flag the post for the team to take a look at and do not respond in kind.

In regards to the official HUD and broadcast graphics, like you the first time we really saw the new F1 broadcast rebrand was when it was revealed live to the general public which came right at the end of our development cycle for F1 2018....and at the moment F1 are continuing to refine it as they go. Rest assured that we are looking to introduce the official graphics over time. You will start to see some elements being brought into this year’s game – (and you’ve heard this here first) the intro, the theme music, track maps, which bring us more in line with the official broadcast approach – and we will continue to add more into the next game. Since gaming is interactive whereas watching Formula 1 isn’t, there will inevitably be some components which won’t work, but the intention is for us to incorporate the new branding into our official F1 products where it makes sense to do so.

Many thanks @Fraya for the update, just little things like this just helps us understand what's going on.  Those of us been here since the start appreciate that simple things like this goes a long way and eases the cloak and dagger of "behind the curtains" more of this please.

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Everyone take a deep breath. Clearly the majority want it, some don't. The poll speaks volumes, you guys bickering at each other doesn't do anyone any favours. 
To be fair to codemasters, they did respond a while back saying they will consider it in future releases (this was a response to exclusion of F1 2017).
Point being, clearly all they need to do is see the poll stats, our comments towards each other are hair and teeth pulling. If they were to read them for any further insight they'd quickly stop.
Unfortunately, bickering at each other is part of human nature. But, seeing, that Faya responded (which is good thing, hopefully we shut up about this for now). If the official graphics are to be implemented, I wouldn't care, even though I don't (still) think, that it is needed... 

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Tunari89 said:
auroboros said:
Everyone take a deep breath. Clearly the majority want it, some don't. The poll speaks volumes, you guys bickering at each other doesn't do anyone any favours. 
To be fair to codemasters, they did respond a while back saying they will consider it in future releases (this was a response to exclusion of F1 2017).
Point being, clearly all they need to do is see the poll stats, our comments towards each other are hair and teeth pulling. If they were to read them for any further insight they'd quickly stop.
Unfortunately, bickering at each other is part of human nature. But, seeing, that Faya responded (which is good thing, hopefully we shut up about this for now). If the official graphics are to be implemented, I wouldn't care, even though I don't (still) think, that it is needed... 
yeah I'm not sure I'm even going to care much after F1 2018 either really because of the direction F1 is going so I can see myself saying goodbye to it. I'll still keep playing the ones I own including 2018 when I get it but I don't think it's likely I'll be buying any new ones afterwards.

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I wish the cover art would change as well. I'm sick of seeing Hamilton on the front of the cover. The fans should get to vote who they want on the cover like the other games do that follow official sports.

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Faya said:

Hi all,

First of all, please stay civil. If you feel someone has broken the forum rules, please flag the post for the team to take a look at and do not respond in kind.

In regards to the official HUD and broadcast graphics, like you the first time we really saw the new F1 broadcast rebrand was when it was revealed live to the general public which came right at the end of our development cycle for F1 2018....and at the moment F1 are continuing to refine it as they go. Rest assured that we are looking to introduce the official graphics over time. You will start to see some elements being brought into this year’s game – (and you’ve heard this here first) the intro, the theme music, track maps, which bring us more in line with the official broadcast approach – and we will continue to add more into the next game. Since gaming is interactive whereas watching Formula 1 isn’t, there will inevitably be some components which won’t work, but the intention is for us to incorporate the new branding into our official F1 products where it makes sense to do so.

First, I want to thank you for your post and providing us with some kind of info on this topic.

However, there are 2 questions I would sincerely ask you regarding your post:

First, you said you saw the new F1 broadcast rebrand first when it was revealed to the public (that was end of March, Australian GP). You then say that this time is at the end of your development cycle for the upcoming F1 game? Really? You saw the new F1 graphics in March and this game is supposed to drop in late August and you claim that all the development is almost done by late March? Well, sounds a little bit confusing to say the least.

Second, how can a mobile game (F1 Mobile Racing) which is also set to hit the app stores this fall can have the official F1 graphic hud (at least some sort of version resembling it) but not the real game? The TV style hud in that mobile game looks so much better and more realistic than the one we seem to get in F1 2018 only showing three positions (ours and the one in front of and behind us). Can't you transfer the hud from one game to the other?

Thanks, those are my questions. Please excuse my bad English (I'm German). And yes, I registered for this forum only because this topic means so much to me and I've been following all of the posts in here closely. It would be exciting to have the official F1 hud eventually. Thank you for your effort and greetings from Germany. :smile:

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After doing my hud with the game telemetry based in the 2018 graphics, I should say that I feel like I'm watching F1, also it's more informative than the game hud, things like session time and 20 drivers table are not present in the game hud (session time only during the end of session), at the moment this program is only avalaible in PC, I think it could work in PS4 or Xbox with the remote play.

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After doing my hud with the game telemetry based in the 2018 graphics, I should say that I feel like I'm watching F1, also it's more informative than the game hud, things like session time and 20 drivers table are not present in the game hud (session time only during the end of session), at the moment this program is only avalaible in PC, I think it could work in PS4 or Xbox with the remote play.
Man i love what you did! Finally it's possible to see what is going in during a race. Would be perfect if CM would implement something like this, maybe even allow to show 5,10 or 20 cars for example.

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liveTOwin said:
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Very nice! however I agree with those who voted against, the left column is too long. 

The “ fastest lap” and upper right box graphics are fine in my opinion. Is it possible to add those in a post release update?

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Roberto31 said:
liveTOwin said:
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Very nice! however I agree with those who voted against, the left column is too long. 

The “ fastest lap” and upper right box graphics are fine in my opinion. Is it possible to add those in a post release update?
Besides, if the column is as long, as that is, there isn't enough space for track map, which imho, is a MUST have. Just because it's also nice to see, that where next car on front, or back is, in comparison to the player. Another, thing: Again, where's the speedometer, again? And no, I don't want to see the speedometer, like we have on the broadcasts, it's too big, even in TV broadcast...

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