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I have always wished Codemasters would make a nascar game. And after playing F1 2012 for awhile, I actually want it more. The idea of a co-op online in a nascar game, would be amazing. And due to a lighter learning curve (unless you get into set ups, then it is actually steeper) I would be able to have my less skilled friends race with me as well.

A solid career mode is all a nascar game really needs to succeed. There hasn't been a good NASCAR game in a very long time. The one currently on the market is sub par at best, and has poor wheel support. It hasn't improved much over the course of 4 years. I'd like a more competent dev to take a swing at it. The market is there for a good nascar game.

Plus if you guys did make one, you'd have Rally, F1 and NASCAR covered, that's a pretty strong racing lineup there ;)

Have you guys ever considered making a NASCAR game? Would be like a dream come true to have a good NASCAR game to play again. If not, why? Would it be biting off more than you could chew? (due to the large number of liveries in a NASCAR game, and the setups being so crazy etc? I don't know how big your dev team is)

I always wanted DICE to pick up battlefront, and they did. So it revived my hopes of Codemasters making a NASCAR game. I would buy two copies just out of excitement lol.

Not sure how others on this forum feel about it, since it seems like for the most part, F1 and NASCAR fans don't "cross the border" so to speak lol. I like both, so I guess I'm weird.

P.S. Stop BSing and annouce Dirt 4 please.
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I've always wondered though, is NASCAR really that popular outside of the States? Speaking from an Australian view, I know a good 2 people who watch it compared to a good 20+ who watch Formula 1. 
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I would rather see an accurate graphics and physics representation in say...ToCA 4, than to see them make a full game. Honestly, I would love to take a NASCAR car onto an F1 track or popular European tracks.
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I've always wondered though, is NASCAR really that popular outside of the States? Speaking from an Australian view, I know a good 2 people who watch it compared to a good 20+ who watch Formula 1. 
I was actually insulted by a guy in Australia for apparently insinuating the sport wasn't popular outside the US on facebook lmao. 

But yes, the sport is quite popular in many places, including the UK and Australia.

NASCAR 2011 sold around 750k without a PC release, and that game was garbage. And they didn't release the game in Europe until very late and only on PS3 (tons of people on the forums complaining about that) Here's a link of when it finally became available http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2012/07/17/nascar-the-game-available-for-download-tomorrow/

Vs F1 2012 selling around 1.5 million worldwide. (all based on VG charts sales because I didn't feel like looking any harder lol) 

So NASCAR sold half as much, in the US only, as F1 did world wide. So there is definitely a fanbase there. The sales of NASCAR games dropped off a cliff after that, because the games are terrible and buggy. A good NASCAR game would have a solid fanbase to draw off of for... well forever lol. Might not be as big as F1 world wide, but big enough not to ignore IMO.

The first game would be the hardest (work wise), after that, they could just add and tweak stuff, and people would buy it, I know I would. I know it's unlikely, but so was DICE making battlefront. So I will continue to dream about the day when a competent dev makes a NASCAR game.


P.S. I live in Maryland, where there are plenty of "country boys" and I still only know a few people that like NASCAR. So just because you only know 2 people, doesn't really mean much lol. Some people won't openly admit it, and some wont talk about it unless it's brought up in conversation because of some peoples "I can only turn left hurr hurr!" attitude which any NASCAR fan knows, those people can't be swayed, they've made their decision, so we ignore them.
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I'd love for CM to make a NASCAR game. The Eutechnyx games are trash, and CM, I feel, could do a really great job with them!

I think that there is a big enough fanbase in the states alone to make this game, and some fans worldwide as well. 750k in the states alone with 2011, and I know people who didn't buy it because they weren't sure Eutechnyx could make a good game, which they obviously couldn't, and would buy a game from CM in a heartbeat. 

I think it would be great for CM to try their hand at NASCAR.
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about nascar lovers , there is an option to buy 3 months membership for Gen 6 Ford in iracing for 2,99 euros..i have not tried yet but probably i will soon...i dont know if works for sure but i trust the cd key page i have bought some games..i have watched videos and game looks cool..:) way better than nascar 13-14...
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@DarkRedslayer - I wouldn't recommend basing too much on VG Charts figures. They tend to be a lot lower than reality, mainly because to my knowledge they don't take digital into account, which is a big and growing area of the market.

Personally I'd find it pretty interesting if we ever looked into a full on NASCAR title. Oval racing is not exactly a big thing in Europe but I think it is an under appreciated discipline which is very misunderstood. There's a lot of dismissing it as just 'turning left all the time', but anybody who has driven a real car on the limit or even just tried some sim racing knows how difficult it is to keep a car on the edge whilst staying quick and consistent. Throw tight pack racing into that and short, unbanked ovals that require a lot of balancing on the brake and power... it's compelling stuff and can make for great racing in games.

I think you'd need a pretty comprehensive career mode probably with some team management mechanics to keep it interesting though. So whether or not the license allowed for that sort of thing would be be an important consideration for me, if I were the one making the call.
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@DarkRedslayer - I wouldn't recommend basing too much on VG Charts figures. They tend to be a lot lower than reality, mainly because to my knowledge they don't take digital into account, which is a big and growing area of the market.

Personally I'd find it pretty interesting if we ever looked into a full on NASCAR title. Oval racing is not exactly a big thing in Europe but I think it is an under appreciated discipline which is very misunderstood. There's a lot of dismissing it as just 'turning left all the time', but anybody who has driven a real car on the limit or even just tried some sim racing knows how difficult it is to keep a car on the edge whilst staying quick and consistent. Throw tight pack racing into that and short, unbanked ovals that require a lot of balancing on the brake and power... it's compelling stuff and can make for great racing in games.

I think you'd need a pretty comprehensive career mode probably with some team management mechanics to keep it interesting though. So whether or not the license allowed for that sort of thing would be be an important consideration for me, if I were the one making the call.
Awesome to see one of you guys reply :D You guys are among my favorite developers (A dwindling list these days sadly, Just you guys, Bethesda, Rockstar and DICE at the top, even though DICE annoyed me with how BF4 was handled, I blame EA more than DICE lol.)

Previous games (EA days) have allowed you to do quite a bit on the team side of things, but I won't pretend to have any idea what NASCAR's limitations are. I hope you guys look into it at some point. To be honest, the current NASCAR game series probably won't survive all that much longer due to the lack of content and heavy amount of bugs, along side lack of advancement between games causing fans to dispurse, and not buy the game including myself. A real shame, because the devs handling it had some great ideas seems they just were not able to get the job done.

If you guys decide to make one, I promise to pre-order it lol. Until then, I'll be around here for DiRT 4 and future F1 games :)

Oh and Toca if you bring that back.

Edit : Also, that's why I said the NASCAR sales were all the US, there was no physical release of NASCAR 2011 outside of the US.
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ok guys for nascar lovers i have a solution...visit this page :http://www.kinguin.net/category/5623/iracing-com-3-month-membership-with-gen-6-ford-car/ and you will be able to buy 3 months  membership for Gen 6 Ford for 2.99 euros, only to play with this car (nascar) in iracing..i dont know if works foir sure (all games i ahve bought from kinguin work) but i think i will try to soon...
it seems evry good


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In all seriousness, I would love to see a *proper* NASCAR sim for the new consoles. The Eutechnyx games were riddled with bugs and glitches. Each year they essentially copied the code and assets from the previous game, thus carrying over all those bugs and glitches. Compare "NASCAR The Game" to "NASCAR '14" and you will still see some of the same bugs...it's, pathetic.

EDIT: if there are any NASCAR fans/followers here, feel free to post in the discussion thread I made a couple weeks ago ;) http://forums.codemasters.com/discussion/54/the-nascar-2014-discussion-thread#latest
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ok guys for nascar lovers i have a solution...visit this page :http://www.kinguin.net/category/5623/iracing-com-3-month-membership-with-gen-6-ford-car/ and you will be able to buy 3 months  membership for Gen 6 Ford for 2.99 euros, only to play with this car (nascar) in iracing..i dont know if works foir sure (all games i ahve bought from kinguin work) but i think i will try to soon...
it seems evry good


Iracing lacks the Career mode I want, and has the fees I don't want lol That and my PC is a PoS these days and I haven't gotten around to either getting a new one, or replacing the faulty parts within this one. I simply prefer to game on consoles with my friends, and since Command and Conquer, and SimCity4 were pretty much my top played games on PC, and both series are dead or crap now, I just haven't had the urge to fiddle with my PC. 

Though I have been increasingly considering it, I travel way too much to play Iracing enough to make it worth it.
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ok guys for nascar lovers i have a solution...visit this page :http://www.kinguin.net/category/5623/iracing-com-3-month-membership-with-gen-6-ford-car/ and you will be able to buy 3 months  membership for Gen 6 Ford for 2.99 euros, only to play with this car (nascar) in iracing..i dont know if works foir sure (all games i ahve bought from kinguin work) but i think i will try to soon...
it seems evry good


Iracing lacks the Career mode I want, and has the fees I don't want lol That and my PC is a PoS these days and I haven't gotten around to either getting a new one, or replacing the faulty parts within this one. I simply prefer to game on consoles with my friends, and since Command and Conquer, and SimCity4 were pretty much my top played games on PC, and both series are dead or crap now, I just haven't had the urge to fiddle with my PC. 

Though I have been increasingly considering it, I travel way too much to play Iracing enough to make it worth it.
Completely agree. The investment you have to make for iRacing is quite high, especially if you aren't serious about it. I'm hoping *someone* releases a sim racing game soon for the PS4 that at least has a NASCAR car or two and some tracks (among other series and tracks).
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It's 11 o clock at night here. I got excited and read this as "Codemasters has got the NASCAR license, how should the game be made"

Don't mess with my emotions like that. :p

I'd love a CM NASCAR game. Just get a simple, basic career mode with solid gameplay. That would be good enough for a first game. As they got more experience with NASCAR, continue adding different features, NW and Trucks, etc. at a good, constant rate.

But first, they have to get the license. Which, they could if they wanted to, since Eutechnyx doesn't have an exclusive license like EA, correct?
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 And due to a lighter learning curve


I have to disagree with this as NASCAR has more tracks to learn (and they can be real tricky) more cars behind or in front of you and a very touchy car to drive... it's actually a very steep learning curve if you want to do well. The setups are quite a bit more complicated as you mentioned as well. If you enjoy racing it's a nice change from F1 and good fun.




Not sure how others on this forum feel about it, since it seems like for the most part, F1 and NASCAR fans don't "cross the border" so to speak lol. I like both, so I guess I'm weird.

P.S. Stop BSing and annouce Dirt 4 please.

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I have to disagree with this as NASCAR has more tracks to learn (and they can be real tricky) more cars behind or in front of you and a very touchy car to drive... it's actually a very steep learning curve if you want to do well. The setups are quite a bit more complicated as you mentioned as well. If you enjoy racing it's a nice change from F1 and good fun.

It is lighter, simply because you only have to learn "4" turns per track (excluding Watkins Glen and Sonoma of course). Now, perhaps to be among the top drivers, yes, the learning curve can be quite steep, but until you get into set ups, you'll never be among the fastest anyway. Setups learning curve would be drastically steeper in NASCAR due to tuning each wheels suspension and air pressure settings separately. But getting the basics of driving down, would be easier. Esp since, if you learn Charlotte for instance, You'll be able to run Texas and Atlanta at acceptable speeds as well by default.

My point is, from a pick up and play point of view, you will be able to compete in NASCAR before you could compete in F1. Now, to learn the perfect way to drive ovals, is a different story all together. And someone who picked up and played NASCAR for the first time, won't stand even the slightest chance against a longer term player even on locked set ups. So in that aspect it's no different from any other type of racing.
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As a long-time NASCAR fan, I've heard countless jokes and comparisons. Oddly enough, Jeff Gordon put it best when he explained why NASCAR is so challenging, for anyone;

(paraphrased)

"People look at NASCAR and think 'they're only turning left, and only 4 turns, how is that hard?'. What they don't think about is we're racing door-to-door at 200 MPH, inches apart. Each end of the track is essentially a giant sweeping turn that you have to maximize speed from start to finish."

Something along those lines. While I understand the jokes about turning left, if you watch a race like Auto Club (California) or Michigan, they're running 4 and 5 deep (side-by-side) into and THROUGH the turns, and making it out in one piece (usually). That can be pretty exciting and is in no way easy I would imagine.
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NASCAR is very challenging and tons of fun although the latest incarnation is a bug fest and even the online replays crash the game... Otherwise mastering the (many) tracks and navigating the swarms of cars can make for a great challenge and tons of fun...
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likewise said:
NASCAR is very challenging and tons of fun although the latest incarnation is a bug fest and even the online replays crash the game... Otherwise mastering the (many) tracks and navigating the swarms of cars can make for a great challenge and tons of fun...
Yeah, I love racing NASCAR. I just haven't been able to do it for a few years now since the only ones out are old as dirt, or bug fest.
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My favorite is still NASCAR 2005 on the PS2. I would really like to see a proper NASCAR Sim that was able to adapt to allow newcomers to have fun, and sill let Sim fans donthwir thing. One day...
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SynGamer said:
My favorite is still NASCAR 2005 on the PS2. I would really like to see a proper NASCAR Sim that was able to adapt to allow newcomers to have fun, and sill let Sim fans donthwir thing. One day...
I have Nascar 2008 on the 360 used to play it all the time then got bored with it, some nice songs on the soundtrack aswell.
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I think it would be great if Codemasters would take the franchise. As a moderator for the current company that has the NASCAR franchise, I can say there is a lot to be desired in not only the gaming aspect, but the community involvement as well. While it is my fear that once the current company quits making the games there will not be another game for a good while, I would much rather have that then it continuing on the path it is currently on.
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I think it would be great if Codemasters would take the franchise. As a moderator for the current company that has the NASCAR franchise, I can say there is a lot to be desired in not only the gaming aspect, but the community involvement as well. While it is my fear that once the current company quits making the games there will not be another game for a good while, I would much rather have that then it continuing on the path it is currently on.
I gave up after 2011 anyway. I tried 2014, but the wheel support was too poor for my taste. I have no plans on ever buying another one from them. So I'd much rather have some dead years til a compitent dev picked it up, than have them keep wasting years and making people think no one wants a NASCAR game >.>
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It couldn't be any worse than the one that is already on the shelve. If they made the physics engine like the one in Grid and the cars with damage like they did in the demo derby it would already be a step up from what we have in a NASCAR game right now. I'm so fed up with ETX. If not for Codies I would have very dim view of UK developers.
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watch the occasional race on TV not a big follower though got the 2013 game mostly for a little bit of oval racing fun I quite enjoy it but I don't play it that much tbf but I think that's partly down to having lots of other stuff to do right now
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It couldn't be any worse than the one that is already on the shelve. If they made the physics engine like the one in Grid and the cars with damage like they did in the demo derby it would already be a step up from what we have in a NASCAR game right now. I'm so fed up with ETX. If not for Codies I would have very dim view of UK developers.
I don't really blame you. They need some new talent in that studio or something. But it would take an Epic NASCAR game for me to buy another game from "ETX racing". I do like how they thought changing their name would make a difference though :P
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I would like to play a good sim nascar game with out glitches that is close to the real thing as you can get but etx racing cant do that they cant even patch there game right.
I heard they just patched Nascar '14 and fixed the game working (I.E. they broke it) lol.
Man they fixed the game not it was a okay game then the patch now its tied for worst nascar game since ntg2011.
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I would like to play a good sim nascar game with out glitches that is close to the real thing as you can get but etx racing cant do that they cant even patch there game right.
I heard they just patched Nascar '14 and fixed the game working (I.E. they broke it) lol.
Man they fixed the game not it was a okay game then the patch now its tied for worst nascar game since ntg2011.
Wow, that bad? That's actually depressing.
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I would like to play a good sim nascar game with out glitches that is close to the real thing as you can get but etx racing cant do that they cant even patch there game right.
I heard they just patched Nascar '14 and fixed the game working (I.E. they broke it) lol.
Man they fixed the game not it was a okay game then the patch now its tied for worst nascar game since ntg2011.
Wow, that bad? That's actually depressing.
pros of patch from etx
the ai is ok now not over aggressive
3 to 6 new drivers added
can practice a richmond

cons of ntg 14 patch from etx 
they killed a ok online play lots of lag and a bigger bubble
26 chase in career irl its 16 in the chase 
the new qualifying works when it wants to. 
freezing glitch still there
and much more.

we need codemasters to make nascar where it will be a simulation game.
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It might not be too popular outside of the states, but let Codemasters make a full game and I bet you if everyone was using a good wheel and tried a truly good nascar game, you would suddenly find yourself falling in love with driving in circles, lol. There is a lot more to it than most people think. And to truly drive one of these beast is A LOT of fun. 
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