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How to properly drive without ABS and TC?

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Hey guys,

I played GP games since Grand Prix 2. I always had TC and ABS on because I played with a pad. I recently got a wheel and despite I am quite a second slower than with pad, the game is soooooo much better now. I use the T150 with the standard pedals FWIW.

So I turned off TC and ABS completely and it is a joy to drive the car. So much more rewarding when you nail a clean lap and much more fun due to the fact, you have to consider even more things. I am still on manual gears since that would be too much for me to coordinate right now, until I figured the TC and ABS stuff out properly. I plan to switch to manual gearbox before F1 2017 releases though.

Anyway, I can drive around the course without spinning and locking up my tires but I wanted to know, if my way is the fastest when driving without assists or what I can do better.

In terms of ABS, I usually hit the brakes full and loose them a bit when I get a feeling that the tyres will lock up. Is this right? Or should I go more like tapping the break / never hit it full (despite I have to because of danger in front)?

In terms of TC, I slowly press down the throttle until I am completely straight and then push it through the ground. I guess manual gearbox and short shifting would help to press down the throttle earlier, right?

Thanks in advance and sorry for such a noobie-question.

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Setting your throttle to have a dead zone with help with learning no TC. Once you master it go back to 0 dead zone.

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Setting your throttle to have a dead zone with help with learning no TC. Once you master it go back to 0 dead zone.

That may work for you, but I personally wouldn't recommend it - that could lead to more wheelspin, as you would have no throttle then suddenly get a burst of throttle. I feel it is better to have no deadzone and develop a feel for the throttle - the amount you move the pedal equals the amount of throttle input.

Possibly reduce the brake and throttle sensitivity, as this would give you a greater margin for error.

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To answer your question, dont think too much about what you are doing.

The first thing to master is learning to control a slide - On time trial, go to some long corners and then turn in at fairly low speed (about 60mph) then dab the throttle and see how long you can control the slide. Once you get a feel for how the car reacts, you wont need to think too much about controlling the car if this happens coming out of slow corners - it should now be natural.


With ABS, brake hard then try to hold the brakes at the point where it is just rotating but not locking up. You wont get this right straight away, to start with you will lock up a lot, but practice will help you get there.

Next, steering comes second to braking! Remember this, it is very important. Basically, if you are going too fast into a corner, forget steering towards the apex - this will make you lock up, meaning you slow down even less. Simply keep the wheel straight and get the car slowed down then think about turning in. This is the reason why you see a lot of F1 drivers going down the escape roads on street tracks.

To start with, I would recommend making your braking distances about 50-100 meters longer, and possibly trying to do all of the braking in a straight line. Then, gradually decrease your braking distances to the point that you are even trail braking (the hardest thing to learn without ABS).


With TC, it is very similar - you want to keep the throttle at the point where the wheels are just about to wheelspin.

If you do start to wheelspin, simply put in a little opposite lock to control the slide, and dont come off the throttle too much - if you reduce the throttle suddenly, it will likely make you spin in the other direction.


The main thing is though to become comfortable with wheelspin and locking up - you will lock up and wheelspin many times during a race, but once you reach the point where you dont need to think about it, and you know you can still keep control of the car, you have completely mastered it.

Good luck.

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Just for addition to what is said above; You should play with wheel settings, specially with wheel weight so that you can feel the point of  lock up, wheelspin etc. Less wheight gives you more feeling !

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Just adding to what I said above.

You mentioned short-shifting to reduce wheel-spin - although this sometimes works, it is not always the best option, and can sometimes increase wheel-spin. Sometimes, if you are wheel-spinning and then you hit the rev limiter, the wheel-spin cannot get any worse (it is limited by the limiter), but short-shifting means the wheels can spin more.

Also, more importantly than above, short-shifting can either bring the engine back into its optimum rev range, increasing power and therefore also wheel-spin. If not, you will move out of the optimum rev range, and it will reduce in power, stopping the wheel-spin, but also making you bog down.

In my opinion, when you change gear is more important when braking - changing too quickly can make you lock up the rear wheels and spin, but changing too slowly reduces the amount the car slows down, making the braking distance longer.


Like I say, the most important thing though is practice. I personally learnt car control before driving on the F1 games, through karting (particularly in the wet), and as much as people can tell you about how to control the car/kart, by the time you have thought about what to do, you will likely be in the barrier. So, the only way is to persevere, and suddenly you will notice you dont spin or lock up as much, and from then, it is just a short step to pushing flat out every lap, not even thinking about controlling the car.

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you need to practice , at the begining its difficult without tc and abs i was always locking my tires aw spin the car but after a year of practicing i can beat the legend difficulty without any assists 

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@Foreverchamps

thank you a lot. I spend around half an hour drifting around silverstone last night. Really helped me. I then did the race in my career, won the race (difficulty was way too low, still trying to find the right settings) and had no spin. I had to save the car a few times but once you get a feel for the car, it is quite easy to drive without TC.

I also had only 2 or 3 locked up tyres in the entire race. I don't have the feeling I go as fast as possible though so there is definetly room for improvement. But a lot of thanks for your tip about drifting!

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It's all feel. Anyone attempting to drive no assists already knows to not be lead-footed on both the throttle and brakes. All you can do is practice. Some pick it up faster than others but you'll know you've "mastered" it when you no longer have to think about it.
No ABS is easily the hardest to master, especially around Monaco where there are little pockets of slight braking and undulations.

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For braking, learn to do 95% of your braking in a straight line before the corner and then trail brake if need be into the corner but very lightly.

For accelerating out the corner, never go flat out until your wheels are pointing straight and you have speed up already as this will spin the back wheels causing you to spin. I still do this occasionally, when you have someone up your chuff trying to overtake, its easy to be hasty and slam the throttle down for a quick getaway.

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my advice is load up TT in Monaco and keep driving until you can do a few laps consistently without hitting anything.

i use the sticks on a pad. It's just about making sure not putting too much pressure through the brakes/accelerator at once. Also remember a smoother entrance to the corner when make exiting a lot easier :) and don't be afraid to correct oversteer if need be :)

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Södy said:
@Foreverchamps

thank you a lot. I spend around half an hour drifting around silverstone last night. Really helped me. I then did the race in my career, won the race (difficulty was way too low, still trying to find the right settings) and had no spin. I had to save the car a few times but once you get a feel for the car, it is quite easy to drive without TC.

I also had only 2 or 3 locked up tyres in the entire race. I don't have the feeling I go as fast as possible though so there is definetly room for improvement. But a lot of thanks for your tip about drifting!

No problem. That is a very good idea - running against a lower difficulty is probably the best way to learn, as it allows you to have longer braking distances, and take your time getting on the power, yet still be competitive. Once you have made your way back up to your normal difficulty, or even beyond, you will know you have completely mastered it.

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