2017 Resource points

[Jensonbartley 0]

Ive had f1 2017 for 3 days now amd im at the Hungarian gp season 1 at mclaren.

My first point is I've done 3 engine upgrades and I'm still miles away from Saubers engines. And I didn't like that. 

My second point is that I feel you don't earn enough points to upgrade the mclaren. For example in real life teams bring car upgrades every race and engine upgrades around every 5 races. 

In my opinion I feel like you should get more than 50 RP for completing one practice program I think it should be doubled or at least 75RP to make it slightly easier to bring upgrades regularly like in reality. 

That or forecasters could bring RP packages for example pay £10 to get 15,000RP or something like that. 

Or a quick buy in to buy all the quality upgrades and discount upgrades. 

What are people's thoughts on this.

[Calio43 0]

I'd agree, I understand that they want RnD to take longer, but this is a little extreme, I also have 3 upgrades and I feel no difference I really hope they change this because it's one of the few flaws with the game., 

[skaliba 0]

I think r&d fail rate is quite high. When this and low resource points are combined, it is really hard to upgrade the car. I also think some balancing somewhere would be nice.

[Jensonbartley 0]

Calio43 said:

I'd agree, I understand that they want RnD to take longer, but this is a little extreme, I also have 3 upgrades and I feel no difference I really hope they change this because it's one of the few flaws with the game., 

Completely agree I love the game it's just the upgrading system seems a tad expensive you'd think Honda upgrades would be cheaper like 500 until a certain point.

[Burba7 0]

When you are number 1 driver and have more of the competencies you should be getting more points per race weekend.

There are also the upgrades that reduce the costs of the parts as well. Once you've got some of these unlocked then this will make a difference.

I think as you play through multiple seasons you will see your development rate increase, so hang in there.

However, it supposedly takes multiple seasons to take one of the worst teams to winning the championship. If that's your aim then you need to be in it for the long haul.

As someone who will probably get through the 10 seasons doing 50% races I'm quite happy with the balancing. I guess if you're not intending to play that long then it's more limiting in terms of which team you can be world champion at.

[Tway 6]

Last year the R&D was highly problematic because while it felt instantly rewarding, it would last only two seasons if you worked at it hard, otherwise maybe three seasons, and then everything was done. No more R&D at all for 7 to 8 seasons, that clearly needed to be fixed.

I find it too early to say whether they nailed it this time, but you can't expect to burn through all the upgrades right away when they're meant to last an entire career. The alternative would be to introduce more smaller upgrades, so you could upgrade more often but still to the same effect. I can't say yet whether the balance is right, but so far it seems infinitely better than last year.

[SASColfer 56]

I'm tempted to agree with the OP and made a thread myself about this. I can't see how, with all the engine upgrades for example, I'll ever be able to match the Mercedes for power. Once they themselves have made upgrades. Surely if the upgrades have the same impact for every team, they'll all just go up together? 

I'm getting the current systems works well for the midfield and top teams because a small upgrade will maybe move you above some other close teams but for McLaren and perhaps Sauber, it seems like we're so far away. It's almost as if diminishing returns needs to be factored in.Then again, Honda haven't got it right in three years...

[ptank20 54]

SASColfer said:

I can't see how, with all the engine upgrades for example, I'll ever be able to match the Mercedes for power. Once they themselves have made upgrades. Surely if the upgrades have the same impact for every team, they'll all just go up together? 

If you upgrade at a faster rate then you will catch up and if you don't then you won't catch up. Exactly
like last year only this year it will take much longer meaning career mode is still worth playing after more than 3 seasons.

[sjsharp2010 225]

ptank20 said:

SASColfer said:

I can't see how, with all the engine upgrades for example, I'll ever be able to match the Mercedes for power. Once they themselves have made upgrades. Surely if the upgrades have the same impact for every team, they'll all just go up together? 

If you upgrade at a faster rate then you will catch up and if you don't then you won't catch up. Exactly
like last year only this year it will take much longer meaning career mode is still worth playing after more than 3 seasons.

Exactly there was lot's of complaints that R&D was over too quickly in 2016 and it was. You need a system that lasts 10 seasons or close to it if you're to keep career mode interesting. I'm not that far into career yet as I'm only up to Spain but so far I'm really enjoying the conundrums it's thrown at me and figuring ou how best to approach the problems.

[LeedsUnited21 0]

agree its what we have a;lways wanted a interesting ongoing career that rewards patience 

[Sadler 1]

skaliba said:

I think r&d fail rate is quite high. When this and low resource points are combined, it is really hard to upgrade the car. I also think some balancing somewhere would be nice.

It's a 10 year career, in the previous game people complained all upgrades were done after season 2 and the playability suffered.

For reference I spent my initial 2000 points on improving the fail rates for parts. It took me until Spain to gain enough to start upgrading but I have had no failures so far..

Patience!

[avernus 0]

its shame that for full race 100% and full practice to not get decent resource points.. ..codemaster u need to give us update with r&d resource points are less and there is no way to really improve the car , i try with sauber and after each race i have to fit new engines, come one .. give us resource points add on at list at decent price to to be able at least to play..

[AMSKRR 3]

Paying for RP? God no, what a horrible idea.

[Burba7 0]

AMS97KRR said:

Paying for RP? God no, what a horrible idea.

As long as people who pay for resource points are removed from the leaderboards then I don't think there is any problem with paying for them. It might be a nice little earner for Codies!

[LeedsUnited21 0]

do not give them ideas haha!!! lets keep it fun guys we dont need to pay for success

[AMSKRR 3]

Burba7 said:

AMS97KRR said:

Paying for RP? God no, what a horrible idea.

As long as people who pay for resource points are removed from the leaderboards then I don't think there is any problem with paying for them. It might be a nice little earner for Codies!

It's a slippery slope and it isn't something we need in these games. It just ruins the point of career mode, having everything handed to you is no fun. 

[rivi1994 0]

Seasson 2 Race Singapur i hace almost finished all engine group 11/15 and ive got better engine than renault but when iam racing all the cars including sauber are much more faster than me. In intalian gp with aero in 2 2 drs rich and suprsoft i cant get more tan 320 kmh when renault get 330.....thy sould improve that....i feel all 

improvements doesnt works...

[LeedsUnited21 0]

rivi1994 said:

Seasson 2 Race Singapur i hace almost finished all engine group 11/15 and ive got better engine than renault but when iam racing all the cars including sauber are much more faster than me. In intalian gp with aero in 2 2 drs rich and suprsoft i cant get more tan 320 kmh when renault get 330.....thy sould improve that....i feel all 

improvements doesnt works...

the other teams imprvoe as well..... 

[MichaelDecker 8]

I think im in career mode they need to make the invitational events worth 1000 or more Resource point. Like we dont get anything beside the boost i like to call them

[rivi1994 0]

LeedsUnited21 said:

rivi1994 said:

Seasson 2 Race Singapur i hace almost finished all engine group 11/15 and ive got better engine than renault but when iam racing all the cars including sauber are much more faster than me. In intalian gp with aero in 2 2 drs rich and suprsoft i cant get more tan 320 kmh when renault get 330.....thy sould improve that....i feel all 

improvements doesnt works...

the other teams imprvoe as well..... 

Yes i know hahaha,  but i see the graphics and i have better engine than renault sauber haas....and then on straight they pass me like a plane me using drs and they dont.......hahaha 

[KamyKaze1098 1]

rivi1994 said:

LeedsUnited21 said:

rivi1994 said:

Seasson 2 Race Singapur i hace almost finished all engine group 11/15 and ive got better engine than renault but when iam racing all the cars including sauber are much more faster than me. In intalian gp with aero in 2 2 drs rich and suprsoft i cant get more tan 320 kmh when renault get 330.....thy sould improve that....i feel all 

improvements doesnt works...

the other teams imprvoe as well..... 

Yes i know hahaha,  but i see the graphics and i have better engine than renault sauber haas....and then on straight they pass me like a plane me using drs and they dont.......hahaha 

How are you using DRS and them not?? Sounds fishy to me...

[rivi1994 0]

KamyKaze1098 said:

rivi1994 said:

LeedsUnited21 said:

rivi1994 said:

Seasson 2 Race Singapur i hace almost finished all engine group 11/15 and ive got better engine than renault but when iam racing all the cars including sauber are much more faster than me. In intalian gp with aero in 2 2 drs rich and suprsoft i cant get more tan 320 kmh when renault get 330.....thy sould improve that....i feel all 

improvements doesnt works...

the other teams imprvoe as well..... 

Yes i know hahaha,  but i see the graphics and i have better engine than renault sauber haas....and then on straight they pass me like a plane me using drs and they dont.......hahaha 

How are you using DRS and them not?? Sounds fishy to me...

Cause the gap between me and the next car is under 1s and the gap between me and the back car is more than 1s hahaha and he pass me hahha

[HusseinGamingPs 1]

rivi1994 said:

LeedsUnited21 said

rivi1994 said:

Seasson 2 Race Singapur i hace almost finished all engine group 11/15 and ive got better engine than renault but when iam racing all the cars including sauber are much more faster than me. In intalian gp with aero in 2 2 drs rich and suprsoft i cant get more tan 320 kmh when renault get 330.....thy sould improve that....i feel all 

improvements doesnt works...

the other teams imprvoe as well..... 

Yes i know hahaha,  but i see the graphics and i have better engine than renault sauber haas....and then on straight they pass me like a plane me using drs and they dont.......hahaha 

Well, don't forget chassis upgrades which reduce the vehicle weight! Because, what is power when you have the heaviest vehicle.

[Craig8921 14]

IMO the other teams don't upgrade all that often and while it's abit of a grind to get the points to do a small upgrade, 2-3 weekends to just get points for 1 upgrade is abit annoying. I upgraded all my powertrain efficiency department so i don't get any failures on that side now. I have 1 powertrain upgrade and also a gearbox wear rate upgrade, i can comfortably run at pace with anyone around p6-p10. With a well worked strategy and luck I've managed 3rd at Canada with renault. I think overtime and progression to no1 driver will help get more points to upgrade quicker

[Jensonbartley 0]

I have done all the power upgrades except the last two. I haven't done the efficiency side. And my engine is still way off the Saubers 2016 engine which I find rude. And I don't feel any performance gain what so ever. 

I also agree with sea open I still get passed by with people without Drs. I'm trying to upgrade my aero to reduce my drag. But there's one problem with the upgrade system. 

The impact of the upgrade is the same for all the cars. Which is wrong in a sense as youd expect the lower teams to be able to make more gains as they are further behind. But by the end of 10 seasons Honda would be back where they started at the back. So a believe a patch needs to be made on the the performance difference between each car. I love the system but it needs to be different for every car or if not the performance advantage for each part is increased for lower cars. And top teams show less improvement as they have raked out most of the performance to start with.

Going back to resource points it would be a good idea to earn not double but definitely a lot more points to upgrade the car. So practice programmes be 100RP instead of 50. And earn more points for the 1st driver bonus and race. Plus if you do well depending on team performance you should be rewarded more often. Example getting in the points for mclaren and top 5 in the first 2 seasons when the car is still a way off.

The events you do with the historic cars should also earn prize resource points let's say for wining or completing it between 500 to 1000RP should be awarded. 

So to conclude. More RP for practice and special events. The upgrade system needs to be altered so cars that are the slowest at the start of the career gain more performance from each upgrade compared to the top teams and then the midfield would be the same. So you'd have 
Mercedes, Ferrari, Red bull
Williams, force India, torro rosso, Haas.
Sauber, Mclaren* (*Mclaren receive a massive engine performance advantage per upgrade, but chassis and aero would be the same performance gain as the midfield)

Hopefully this makes sense. I apologise if it is in clear.