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Hughesy said:
Hughesy said:
It doesn't use anything from nfs... It's very much a sim and uses a totally different engine. Really stop trolling. It's very easy to search info
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_CARS

"The game adopts an improved version of the Madness engine, which was the basis for the Need For Speed Shift Titles"

Wiki has a a habit of being somewhat unreliable with ergarsd info on things that haven't happened yet which is generally why I ignore it. My advice is read what info people have put on the games forums and watch the youtube vids and make your own mind up. Don't rely on Wiki for answers as I've found in the past it'll often give you the wrong ones.
Yeah I've realised that now. Watched about an hours worth of YouTube videos and any game with a Mk 1 Escort in it is worth buying. 

Nah ah but seriously, the game looks amazing, tempted to buy a PS4 just for PCars.
Sorry for calling you a troll :# Thought you came here to moan even when people said otherwise. Trust me it's a great sim. They were working with EA before and weren't allowed to create a sim hence leaving them. EA kept all the the data meaning SMS couldn't use any of it for Pcars so they had to start over. Even after the first build it felt nothing like Shift. It still has a long way to go in my eyes as there's a lot of strange bugs, so I'm not sure how it's going to be on consoles by November. Personally I think it'll get delayed. The tracks and cars are awesome, there's many many tracks, but not 100s of cars like GT6 but I prefer to have less cars if it means more tracks.
I agree @Hughesy so would I

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ive not really looked into it but it looks like a really poorly made game with only 6/7 tracks.

also it's using a physics system similar to NFS Shift, which is probably the worst physics engine I've ever played with on a racing game.

Anyone else have any thoughts?
Project Cars will be AWESOME!!! The only doubt is about the physic...but for sure Slightly Mad Studios Knows what's is doing!

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And the music in the video is absolutely EPIC i could listen it forever!!! B)  Do you know if P.Cars will have Touring cars??

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Hughesy said:
Hughesy said:
It doesn't use anything from nfs... It's very much a sim and uses a totally different engine. Really stop trolling. It's very easy to search info
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_CARS

"The game adopts an improved version of the Madness engine, which was the basis for the Need For Speed Shift Titles"

Wiki has a a habit of being somewhat unreliable with ergarsd info on things that haven't happened yet which is generally why I ignore it. My advice is read what info people have put on the games forums and watch the youtube vids and make your own mind up. Don't rely on Wiki for answers as I've found in the past it'll often give you the wrong ones.
Yeah I've realised that now. Watched about an hours worth of YouTube videos and any game with a Mk 1 Escort in it is worth buying. 

Nah ah but seriously, the game looks amazing, tempted to buy a PS4 just for PCars.
Sorry for calling you a troll :# Thought you came here to moan even when people said otherwise. Trust me it's a great sim. They were working with EA before and weren't allowed to create a sim hence leaving them. EA kept all the the data meaning SMS couldn't use any of it for Pcars so they had to start over. Even after the first build it felt nothing like Shift. It still has a long way to go in my eyes as there's a lot of strange bugs, so I'm not sure how it's going to be on consoles by November. Personally I think it'll get delayed. The tracks and cars are awesome, there's many many tracks, but not 100s of cars like GT6 but I prefer to have less cars if it means more tracks.
It mightn't have as many cars as GT6 but it has a good variety and there's more cars that I like in this than in GT6.

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Yes I said it was a good thing bud ;) As I much prefer to have a lot more tracks than endless cars. Each class has good cars so I'm very happy. I love driving the old ones as they can be a handful, so you feel great when you complete a good lap :)

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Phil88TC said:
And the music in the video is absolutely EPIC i could listen it forever!!! B)  Do you know if P.Cars will have Touring cars??

As far as I know yes it will as it has a little of everything. I don't know how many though

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Hughesy said:
Yes I said it was a good thing bud ;) As I much prefer to have a lot more tracks than endless cars. Each class has good cars so I'm very happy. I love driving the old ones as they can be a handful, so you feel great when you complete a good lap :)
I know , I was just adding to what you said. I'd prefer to have a Lotus 49 and an Audi R18 lmp1 car than 50 MX5's. 

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dirt3joe said:
Problem is handling is a very subjective thing and can make or break a game for me.

I started out racing on Dirt 3 and put an awful lot of hours into that. I also did a fair bit on Dirt 2. Dirt I have tried but the handling model didn't work for me so well.

Moving onto GT6, I don't mind it as a game. I don't think anyone could really call GT6 a bad game. But it lacked for me in some areas. It lacks the sensation of speed that something like Grid Autosport has, and for some reason I always make the car tyres squeal when going round the corners which irritates me a bit. 

I suppose I spend a lot of time playing codemasters games, which makes me prefer codemasters handling more. 

I think for PCars the move to console could be interesting, as if you want sales on the console surely you need to be able to handle the cars well with a controller. If Pcars is more sim and doesn't allow good controller handling that could have some sales impact.

I would imagine it'll have various assists and difficulty settings to allow for things like that to try and help those using them but we'll have to wait for the final game to come out before knowing the answer to that.

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I'm gonna get to play this game at EGX on Sunday, I can't wait. I'm not sure exactly how much the game will be on offer to play, but I will try and get a mate to record me playing it perhaps. 

Hopefully there won't be massive queues so I can play it for the whole duration, haha :p

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I'm gonna get to play this game at EGX on Sunday, I can't wait. I'm not sure exactly how much the game will be on offer to play, but I will try and get a mate to record me playing it perhaps. 

Hopefully there won't be massive queues so I can play it for the whole duration, haha :p
And I get to play it from the comfort of my sofa :p Hope you enjoy it bud as I think it's really good. It's definitely come along way from the first build. Still not sure how it's going to be ready for November as there's still bugs and things that need work. Might play it tonight and record something if I can (don't think I'm meant to but hay ho) Anyone have a car they'd like me to drive and also track?

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Hughesy said:
I'm gonna get to play this game at EGX on Sunday, I can't wait. I'm not sure exactly how much the game will be on offer to play, but I will try and get a mate to record me playing it perhaps. 

Hopefully there won't be massive queues so I can play it for the whole duration, haha :p
And I get to play it from the comfort of my sofa :p Hope you enjoy it bud as I think it's really good. It's definitely come along way from the first build. Still not sure how it's going to be ready for November as there's still bugs and things that need work. Might play it tonight and record something if I can (don't think I'm meant to but hay ho) Anyone have a car they'd like me to drive and also track?
How about the classic Hockenheimring would love to see a car blasting through the forests. I'm looking forward to racing the open wheel cars around there. Either that or Monza would be good. As for the release date everyone's locked it down for a November release date even Amazon who I have my order with so they'll just have to fix things quick and get it out or release a few patches once it is out to fix any issues. Besides no  game is ever 100% perfect.

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I'll have a go bud. I've not used Nvidia Shadowplay before to record so I hope it works ok. Last time I tried to post a video on here it didn't work, so I hope I'm able to this time :#  Just waiting for the weekly build to download first.

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Shadow play works well :) You might get a bit of an FPS jump when you start recording, but after that it'll only knock a few FPS off. Just make sure the game is set to full screen otherwise Shadowplay won't record.

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I always play in full screen so that's not a problem. Still can't see how it'll be ready for November. The wet tyres using the old F1 cars don't even change from slick tyres and many details like that are missing. Might go on classic Monza to see what the recording is like. What will the frame rate be like in the video? As when I've used Fraps it was low but while playing the game the frame rate was 60

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Feel like fucking topping myself right now, fucking Thrustmaster TX has stopped working! It stopped while on PCars but thought it was the game. Plugged it back in and it's completely off center and makes a funny noise when you turn it. Proper angry right now.....

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Hughesy said:
I always play in full screen so that's not a problem. Still can't see how it'll be ready for November. The wet tyres using the old F1 cars don't even change from slick tyres and many details like that are missing. Might go on classic Monza to see what the recording is like. What will the frame rate be like in the video? As when I've used Fraps it was low but while playing the game the frame rate was 60
Well if you get 60 FPS as standard with the game (is that with V-Sync yea?), it really depends how much of your GPU's resources are being used. But I think with your card, it'll still be hitting 60 with recording no problem :) 

I used it to record some Prop Hunt footage, was getting between 90 and 120ish FPS as standard, and with Shadowplay active the lowest I saw it dip to was 85 I think. The only thing you might find is your game freezes for a moment or two when you hit record, otherwise it's fine :)

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Hughesy said:
Doesn't bother me at all now, look at my post above yours. My TX has gone wrong! :s

everything seems to be breaking on you today did you walk under a ladder or something ?

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Hughesy said:
Doesn't bother me at all now, look at my post above yours. My TX has gone wrong! :s
Chill bud, sometimes there's a fix! Do you have a different wheel rim on it to the normal one? Also with the wheel off and unplugged, try turning the wheel all the way to the left until it hits full left lock, then plug it all back in, there's a chance that may solve the off center problem. If it doesn't, you're using it on PC atm right? Check the software that runs the wheel and see if it's set to let games control where the wheel center is.

As for the funny noise, I'm not sure on that...

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Hughesy said:
Doesn't bother me at all now, look at my post above yours. My TX has gone wrong! :s
Chill bud, sometimes there's a fix! Do you have a different wheel rim on it to the normal one? Also with the wheel off and unplugged, try turning the wheel all the way to the left until it hits full left lock, then plug it all back in, there's a chance that may solve the off center problem. If it doesn't, you're using it on PC atm right? Check the software that runs the wheel and see if it's set to let games control where the wheel center is.

As for the funny noise, I'm not sure on that...
Everything I own fucking goes wrong. It's not the rim bud, it completely stopped working ingame then went to re plug it in and it's 30 degrees off where it should be, and you can hear a noise inside the base when you turn the wheel and is the same on my X1. It's a common problem with the TX which is why I was so hesitant to buy one, and when it came with old firmware I knew it was a matter of time, as all the new batches have it pre installed. Let's hope Shopto are good with me again like with the faulty X1.
I'm so angry as so many products have gone wrong in the last 12 months. It's not enough that I'm a fucking cripple and can't do anything people my age do. Everything has gone to shit since I was diagnosed in 2010 I just feel like giving up.

ps Sorry for the sob story but I'm in a proper bad mood at the moment :#

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That's technology for you dude :p I've been in the same boat and it isn't fun! But thankfully you're still very well within warranty, and with that being a technical fault it will be replaced. Plus pretty much every online shop as a 14 day period where they must accept returns, and you're inside that so it'll all be ok :) 

And don't worry about the sob story, I'm gonna PM you something that's guaranteed to make you laugh :p 

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Actually the 14th day was today I think :( I'm sure I'll calm down in a few hours. It says on Shopto they have 12 month warranty on products. It does say contact the manufacturer first but I know as I've had to go through this many times it's the shops responsibility to deal with it, especially when they say 12 months warranty.

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