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40% done lol. Just noticed that in the video it looks like it's stuttering. It wasn't when playing and was 60fps, but noticed I had pre rendered frames set to 3 for some reason, which has made Shadowplay recording go a bit weird, it's still fine though, but thought I'd point it out now. I'm thinking I should've uploaded it at 720p 30fps, but I wanted it to look good. Imagine how long it would take to upload at my native 2560x1440p resolution :flushed: Does Nvidia Shadowplay compress @RevolvingPrawn  ? As at 1080p doesn't look that sharp, I know I'm used to 1440p, but it does seem it uses some compression affecting quality.


Just doing a race with 30 cars on track, framerate tanks down to 45fps :(  Seems my 980 isn't that great, I'm slowly starting to doubt my purchase. There are two setting I can turn down to get 60fps but I don't want to. Still feels surprisingly smooth though, kinda like GT6 which can't keep a smooth framerate. Now do I buy a second 980 or stick with one, wait for better cards and sell this one...

Why did I give my brother that new gtx 970, could've sold it and got a second 980 today. He hasn't even used  his PC since I have him the 970, don't know why I bothered.
If you're only running the one card, sometimes a multi screen resolution can just destroy fps unfortunately. It might be due to that? 
It's only one screen @ 2560x1440p.

Edit: There's a problem somewhere, as without using any Vsync GPU usage still stays at 67%, CPU is the problem I think. I was about to restart my PC incase the new build that just installed caused the problem, but then rememberd I still have that video uploading lol.
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Hughesy said:
40% done lol. Just noticed that in the video it looks like it's stuttering. It wasn't when playing and was 60fps, but noticed I had pre rendered frames set to 3 for some reason, which has made Shadowplay recording go a bit weird, it's still fine though, but thought I'd point it out now. I'm thinking I should've uploaded it at 720p 30fps, but I wanted it to look good. Imagine how long it would take to upload at my native 2560x1440p resolution :flushed: Does Nvidia Shadowplay compress @RevolvingPrawn  ? As at 1080p doesn't look that sharp, I know I'm used to 1440p, but it does seem it uses some compression affecting quality.


Just doing a race with 30 cars on track, framerate tanks down to 45fps :(  Seems my 980 isn't that great, I'm slowly starting to doubt my purchase. There are two setting I can turn down to get 60fps but I don't want to. Still feels surprisingly smooth though, kinda like GT6 which can't keep a smooth framerate. Now do I buy a second 980 or stick with one, wait for better cards and sell this one...

Why did I give my brother that new gtx 970, could've sold it and got a second 980 today. He hasn't even used  his PC since I have him the 970, don't know why I bothered.
If you're only running the one card, sometimes a multi screen resolution can just destroy fps unfortunately. It might be due to that? 
It's only one screen @ 2560x1440p.

Edit: There's a problem somewhere, as without using any Vsync GPU usage still stays at 67%, CPU is the problem I think.
It could be bottlenecked by the CPU? Seems like a weird issue to have, but it could be if the game doesn't enjoy that resolution due to the rendering space? 

As far as Shadowplay compression, from all my files that I have from it the compression (if any) seems to be very minimal, I did however notice some issues if the game is going at a really quick pace. It's hit and miss, sometimes it has issues, sometimes its fine. 

Ahh, the fickleness of technology. 
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My 3570k which is overclocked to 4.5ghz shouldn't bottleneck the 980 though. Think there might be a problem with the build rather than my PC. As even when I had a 780 (the rest of the system is the same now) I could race with 30 cars onscreen maxed at 2560x1440p 60fps fine. Once the YouTube video has finished I can explore the problem more. I would go on the private forum and ask, but it's a very hostile place, so I don't post on it anymore. 

Think ive sorted the problem, still isn't perfect, but it does seem to be a problem with the build rather than my rig. GPU usage is up and framerate doesn't drop lower than 55fps. I need to restart my PC once the upload is done, as sometimes Pcars doesn't work properly after an update without restarting the PC.
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That is odd, you should have no problems running it then. Like you said it may be a build issue, sometimes the smalllest thing can change the FPS you get massively. 

Looking forward to the video being uploaded by the way  :)
Yea I'm looking forward to it uploading, my beard will be fully grown by the time it finishes :joy: 53% done in around 6 hours. Wish BT would hurry up and enable the new cabinet so I can order fibre, been checking BT website several times a day since they fitted the new cabinet. Only just noticed you're a community manager, I'm slow like that... Are you new? If so welcome to the mad house o:)
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That is odd, you should have no problems running it then. Like you said it may be a build issue, sometimes the smalllest thing can change the FPS you get massively. 

Looking forward to the video being uploaded by the way  :)
Yea I'm looking forward to it uploading, my beard will be fully grown by the time it finishes :joy: 53% done in around 6 hours. Wish BT would hurry up and enable the new cabinet so I can order fibre, been checking BT website several times a day since they fitted the new cabinet. Only just noticed you're a community manager, I'm slow like that... Are you new? If so welcome to the mad house o:)
I look forward to see the progress of said beard!

I am yeah :), First day was yesterday and I just got all my forum stuff set up this morning so I'm here now. I look forward to the madness! 
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That is odd, you should have no problems running it then. Like you said it may be a build issue, sometimes the smalllest thing can change the FPS you get massively. 

Looking forward to the video being uploaded by the way  :)
Yea I'm looking forward to it uploading, my beard will be fully grown by the time it finishes :joy: 53% done in around 6 hours. Wish BT would hurry up and enable the new cabinet so I can order fibre, been checking BT website several times a day since they fitted the new cabinet. Only just noticed you're a community manager, I'm slow like that... Are you new? If so welcome to the mad house o:)
I look forward to see the progress of said beard!

I am yeah :), First day was yesterday and I just got all my forum stuff set up this morning so I'm here now. I look forward to the madness! 
Well you're posting in the wrong section then ;) Off-topic used to be amazing, but's it's just kinda died a slow death over the last 2 years :( The only madness now happens in The Game area with all the angry rabbits!
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That guy a development director?! He's gaming on a laptop dude. A frickin' laptop. And he calls that a high spec gaming PC? The 680MX is a mobile GPU, the normal 680 completely smokes that thing. And telling people that extra graphics features are for screenshots is utterly ridiculous.
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That guy a development director?! He's gaming on a laptop dude. A frickin' laptop. And he calls that a high spec gaming PC? The 680MX is a mobile GPU, the normal 680 completely smokes that thing. And telling people that extra graphics features are for screenshots is utterly ridiculous.
Now you can see where I'm coming from, when I said I was shocked with the things I've seen posted by them... :|
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@Juice29  @RevolvingPrawn  @LiteralZero Here's the video that's taken me so long to upload. I didn't do qualifying so started at the back, with ai on the hardest setting. Didn't tune the car and wish I'd had, lots of understeer and a boot load of lift off oversteer, but it was fun to drive. On the second lap I should've backed out of a overtake and payed the price.

The other times I went off track was mainly because of the silly pit radio, it came on at the worst time and was extremely loud, so put me off. The stuttering is because of a setting ingame that Shadowplay didn't like when recording, so sorry about that, it is/was 60fps while playing. Hope you still enjoy it
:)  Towards the end I sturggled with front tyre wear. http://youtu.be/Aha1SHaBEOU
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@Juice29  @RevolvingPrawn  @LiteralZero Here's the video that's taken me so long to upload. I didn't do qualifying so started at the back, with ai on the hardest setting. Didn't tune the car and wish I'd had, lots of understeer and a boot load of lift off oversteer, but it was fun to drive. On the second lap I should've backed out of a overtake and payed the price.

The other times I went off track was mainly because of the silly pit radio, it came on at the worst time and was extremely loud, so put me off. The stuttering is because of a setting ingame that Shadowplay didn't like when recording, so sorry about that, it is/was 60fps while playing. Hope you still enjoy it :)  Towards the end I sturggled with front tyre wear. http://youtu.be/Aha1SHaBEOU
Video was ace! Really cool to see, and I love the shape of those Clio cup cars! 

If you're still worried about file size and upload times etc, Have you thought about 720p 60fps? It should decrease your potential file size by a considerable amount but will still look good at speed. 

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Yea I have thought about doing that. I suppose it would still look ok to others, it's just me as I've been playing at 2560x1440p for three years now. I'm going to do a test run and compare size & quality between 720p vs 1080p. If I uploaded at my native resolution, the game would be released before it would upload :joy: 

Glad you enjoyed the video, I might do some smaller ones today showing different cars. :)
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Yea I have thought about doing that. I suppose it would still look ok to others, it's just me as I've been playing at 2560x1440p for three years now. I'm going to do a test run and compare size & quality between 720p vs 1080p. If I uploaded at my native resolution, the game would be released before it would upload :joy: 

Glad you enjoyed the video, I might do some smaller ones today showing different cars. :)
Going from HD to SD is a killer, whenever I watch SD stuff now it hurts my eyes  :p

I've honestly not seen that much about Project Cars recently, been keeping my eye on it as best I can but been really busy so its cool to see how the game is coming along. 
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Yea I have thought about doing that. I suppose it would still look ok to others, it's just me as I've been playing at 2560x1440p for three years now. I'm going to do a test run and compare size & quality between 720p vs 1080p. If I uploaded at my native resolution, the game would be released before it would upload :joy: 

Glad you enjoyed the video, I might do some smaller ones today showing different cars. :)
Do you take requests if so.
Formula C please :)
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Yea I have thought about doing that. I suppose it would still look ok to others, it's just me as I've been playing at 2560x1440p for three years now. I'm going to do a test run and compare size & quality between 720p vs 1080p. If I uploaded at my native resolution, the game would be released before it would upload :joy: 

Glad you enjoyed the video, I might do some smaller ones today showing different cars. :)
Going from HD to SD is a killer, whenever I watch SD stuff now it hurts my eyes  :p

I've honestly not seen that much about Project Cars recently, been keeping my eye on it as best I can but been really busy so its cool to see how the game is coming along. 
Yea I've had Pcars since the very first build, which only included two or three tracks and a few cars. It's been an amazing insight seeing how games are made, I don't get so angry if something doesn't work as it should. It's such a complicated process, so I can see how certain bugs slip through the net. To see how far this game has come since the first build is brilliant. I still read every bit about what is being worked on and how it's coming along, I just don't post on the private forum anymore, as like I said it can be a hostile place.

Might do a smallish night race in a bit, and if the file isn't too big I'll upload it. The game is running a lot better today, so I think I did need to restart my PC after the update, but obviously couldn't as I had the video uploading.

The new cabinet still isn't live so I can't order fibre yet :( There was a BT van outside doing something to it this morning, so I'm hoping I'll be able to order it soon. Until recently I'd never made a video, but I like doing them, just a shame my upload speeds are so slow. I now have so much spare time as I only work part time due to my medical condition, so I'm trying to find stuff to do with it all. It's why I wanted to become a  moderator on here, but I wasn't chosen, maybe I will if you guys ever add more. o:)
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Hughesy said:
Yea I have thought about doing that. I suppose it would still look ok to others, it's just me as I've been playing at 2560x1440p for three years now. I'm going to do a test run and compare size & quality between 720p vs 1080p. If I uploaded at my native resolution, the game would be released before it would upload :joy: 

Glad you enjoyed the video, I might do some smaller ones today showing different cars. :)
Do you take requests if so.
Formula C please :)
Yea sure, I just recorded a wet night race at Silverstone in a BMW Z4 GT3. I'll do a video using Formula C though, any track you'd prefer? :)
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@Juice29  @RevolvingPrawn  @LiteralZero Here's the video that's taken me so long to upload. I didn't do qualifying so started at the back, with ai on the hardest setting. Didn't tune the car and wish I'd had, lots of understeer and a boot load of lift off oversteer, but it was fun to drive. On the second lap I should've backed out of a overtake and payed the price.

The other times I went off track was mainly because of the silly pit radio, it came on at the worst time and was extremely loud, so put me off. The stuttering is because of a setting ingame that Shadowplay didn't like when recording, so sorry about that, it is/was 60fps while playing. Hope you still enjoy it
:)  Towards the end I sturggled with front tyre wear. http://youtu.be/Aha1SHaBEOU
Nice driving @Hughesy wish I could drive as smoothly as that. Shame you just missed out on the top 10 but you did well I think.
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Ok I found a way to make my videos smaller. I can record at 1080p 60fps but set bit rate to 10mbps. Sound quality goes downhill, but file size goes down to 200mb for 2 laps vs 720p 60fps 50mbps 1GB

So I have a short video uploading at the moment, it's Formula C at Hockenheim 1080p 60fps. I also have another one with same car & track, but this time a race. Decided to record it at 720p 60fps, and it's only 600mb for 8 minutes of footage. Much better than the Clio video which was 14mins and around 5GB :)
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Ok this was a test video really, to see how setting bitrate from 50 down to 10 turns out. I now have the race video uploading. If this looks good enough for you guys, I'll be able to do more videos, and upload quicker. This one is 1080p 60fps, the race video is 720p, that's for later though.

http://youtu.be/hjTv5os4RBo
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Ok this was a test video really, to see how setting bitrate from 50 down to 10 turns out. I now have the race video uploading. If this looks good enough for you guys, I'll be able to do more videos, and upload quicker. This one is 1080p 60fps, the race video is 720p, that's for later though.

http://youtu.be/hjTv5os4RBo
Video looks great! funny thing with YouTube is the amount of compression it puts on to a video when you upload, so I think the bitrate you settled on is a good one. Can always tweak more if you wanted though. :smiley:


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Think I'll keep the bitrate as it is, think it's the lowest Shadowplay allows anyway. The 5 lap race is 50% done already, so it's a huge improvement. As some here know, audio quality is almost more important than graphics for me, so it hurts me to do it, but for a Youtube video it doesn't make that much difference. It means I can upload quicker which is the main thing, as that one video yesterday took something like 11 hours. :#

Until I have fibre, this is what I'll stick to.
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Juice29 said:
Awesome job your now subbed by me :D
The race video is almost done, it's at 98% :) Also just started uploading another video showing dynamic weather & time of day. I speeded it up so I could fit it into a 7 lap race. I'll post the new video in a few minutes ;)
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Some great overtaking moves :)
Agreed shame about that spin on the last lap but aside from that it was a good race as he pretty much had the other drivers in his pocket
Awesome save on the last corner of the last lap
Yea I hurt my wrist saving the spin. I use the full 1080 degrees of my T500rs, and had to spin it really fast, then catch it as it flung back. Obviously with normal cornering I don't use that much rotation, as it sets each cars steering accordingly, and you can tune to quicker or slower steering. It's the first game to truly use my wheel to its full potential.
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So something went wrong while it was uploading the weather & time of day video :( So it's now uploading the Formula B race. Not sure what time it'll be ready though, still it's an improvement over yesterday. :joy: 

How much do people make doing a proper YouTube channel? Not saying I'd ever do that, but its something to think about if my disability gets worse.
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