Cheesenium 0 Posted May 22, 2014 Gemballa is an actual car manufacturer that manufacture custom cars based on Porsche platforms, similar to Ruf. They arent fake cars to begin with.The reason why Codemaster isnt featuring Ferrari, Lamborghini and Porsche is due to licensing issues. Ferrari's license is either very expensive or lock to only Microsoft's platform. Lamborghini is known to have very expensive licensing that cost upwards of a million dollars, that might could be used to develop other parts of the game or bring other manufacturers. Porsche is mainly tied to EA since 10 years ago and other developers do no have access to that license these days.Licensing isnt as easy as you think, it is a pretty damn complicated, fairly expensive or even a pain to get them. Even subbrands like Subaru's STi branding or Mercedes Benz's AMG branding needs to be licensed or even approved before a game developer can use them in a game. At the same time, some manufacturers also have many restrictions like they do not allow custom liveries on some cars or have limitation on how you ultilise their brands. For example, Audi's prestigious motorsports division, Audi Ultra who develop Audi race cars has a no custom livery policy that games cannot offer options for users to create custom liveries while a similar german brand like BMW does not have that restriction. Not to mention, licensing approvals can take a long time to get it done before you can start modelling the car in your game, that can be partly why Codemaster isnt revealing the full endurance car list as the licensing isnt finalised yet. I heard some manufacturers only approve their brands to be used in a game after a game gone gold. Car licensing is a mine field, IMO, which is not something that is easy to deal with.Considering Autosports could obtain V8 Supercars, I think thats quite an achievement as Holden is also known to be quite pricey to license them in a game.Back in the 90s, car manufacturers used to give out their license for free as they thought it was a good idea for other companies like game developers or merchandise manufacturer to advertise their cars. However, knowing how profitable is manufacturer licensing, car manufacturer started to charge companies to use their licenses which resulted what we have today. If I am not wrong, Ford bring in a couple of billion in revenue each year from car licensing in games to various merchandise such as model cars, polo Ts and cups. Its a profitable industry so they also want to make some money from it. On top of that, you get companies like EA and Microsoft signing exclusivity licensing that makes things even more complicated.Source: I am a Project CARS backer. We go through similar issues daily. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P308R 28 Posted May 22, 2014 MiatakiasGR said: Personally i have not any problem if they add brands like Ferrari , Lamborghini , and Porche unlicenced in GAS.. B-) That sound was awesome and i liked thé story part. Rather prefer to see cars that are not that common in games. I find all those super/hyper cars rather dull and boring Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skiddyboy13 0 Posted May 22, 2014 Looks like we'll find out the Endurance full car list tomorohttps://twitter.com/gridgame/status/469565917291364352 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RallyDriven 398 Posted May 22, 2014 Yeah that looking promising! I'm pretty interested to see what they've got, and I've got high expectations now because of the touring list! Unfortunately I have an exam tomorrow :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skiddyboy13 0 Posted May 22, 2014 RallyDriven said: Yeah that looking promising! I'm pretty interested to see what they've got, and I've got high expectations now because of the touring list! Unfortunately I have an exam tomorrow :( I only have 1 lesson, heh. This is prolly the class I'm most interested in, regarding cars. Should be good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Loore 0 Posted May 22, 2014 I dunno, you put out one little tweet :P RallyDriven said: Yeah that looking promising! I'm pretty interested to see what they've got, and I've got high expectations now because of the touring list! Unfortunately I have an exam tomorrow :( If it's the morning you'll be fine :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RallyDriven 398 Posted May 22, 2014 Fortunately it's my uni's May ball tomorrow evening, so that should help me get through it!If it is as good as the touring line up, I'm going to struggle to put this game down!Edit: Yep, morning exam on general agriculture! Trying to cram some last minute knowledge on Bovine TB! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Loore 0 Posted May 22, 2014 RallyDriven said: Fortunately it's my uni's May ball tomorrow evening, so that should help me get through it!If it is as good as the touring line up, I'm going to struggle to put this game down!Edit: Yep, morning exam on general agriculture! Trying to cram some last minute knowledge on Bovine TB! If you're out of it by the early afternoon you should be fine. Good luck in the exam :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MiatakiasGR 1 Posted May 22, 2014 ok guys sory i did not know about gemballa is official brand 8-| ...i thought they were fake as i could not see PORSCHE , FERRARI AND LAMBORGHINI in TOCA 3....anyway no problem about licence i would like to see them in game... 8-> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RallyDriven 398 Posted May 23, 2014 Loore said: RallyDriven said: Fortunately it's my uni's May ball tomorrow evening, so that should help me get through it!If it is as good as the touring line up, I'm going to struggle to put this game down!Edit: Yep, morning exam on general agriculture! Trying to cram some last minute knowledge on Bovine TB! If you're out of it by the early afternoon you should be fine. Good luck in the exam :) Thanks, it went no where near as badly as I was expecting! Bring on this Endurance list :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RallyDriven 398 Posted May 23, 2014 AUDI R8 LMS UltraMercedes-Benz SLS AMG GT3Aston Martin N24 V12 ZagatoMcLaren 12C GT3Nissan 2008 (R35) GT-R Nismo GT500Honda HSV-010 GTLola B12/80Shelby Cobra “Daytona” CoupeFord GT40 MK1Mazda 787BOP Updated! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MBKF1 91 Posted May 23, 2014 You can also see the Circuit of the Americas in the USA in the Endurance trailer. Sweeeet! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RallyDriven 398 Posted May 23, 2014 Thanks, added as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P308R 28 Posted May 23, 2014 What's that track shown complete in the end? Looks semi public road to me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VirtuaIceMan 92 Posted May 23, 2014 Not sure what the daytime/Autumnal track in the Endurance trailer is, am thinking Road America, Road Atlanta or somewhere rural-America ish... any ideas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oscar97 26 Posted May 23, 2014 It's Circuit Mont-Tremblant.[Edit] Forget about this, didn't see it. I don't think it's Road America though. Looks like Japan to me, as the road sign is on the left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P308R 28 Posted May 23, 2014 At Gtplanet they came up with Okutama :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wilkinson 0 Posted May 23, 2014 Is there any confirmation that the circuit of the americas has the different layouts? If anyone watches v8 supercars they will know what layout im talking about Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Britpoint 4 Posted May 24, 2014 Wilkinson said: Is there any confirmation that the circuit of the americas has the different layouts? If anyone watches v8 supercars they ill know what layout im talking about We have a few layouts, pretty sure that is one of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wilkinson 0 Posted May 24, 2014 I am so pumped for this game! :)) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CCCP1945 0 Posted May 24, 2014 Track at 1:38 (Endurance Focus Trailer) is Okutama. Here are screenshots from trailer and GRID 2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Loore 0 Posted May 24, 2014 Wilkinson said: Is there any confirmation that the circuit of the americas has the different layouts? If anyone watches v8 supercars they will know what layout im talking about We've got 4-5 different routes around CotA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RallyDriven 398 Posted May 24, 2014 I hope it's the same Okutama as G1, the layout in G2 wasn't as good. It looks like the kink section just after the bridge before going up the hill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oscar97 26 Posted May 24, 2014 Codies already said there won't be open road races this time, so it should be the track from Grid 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SparkRacer 0 Posted May 27, 2014 Oscar97 said: Codies already said there won't be open road races this time, so it should be the track from Grid 1. It's possible they could have reworked it to a lap-by-lap route. My understanding is they said there is no point-to-point racing, nothing about open roads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites