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Reverse TC nerf in offline modes.

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Ok guys, after taking part in the posts since the 1.9 patch was released, I feel if codies made this happen It would resolve some issues.

Online racers who put the time and effort in will top the leaders boards and assist users couldn’t be faster, league racing should stabilise with none assist racers, as you’ve still got to practice. 

Casual career players like myself can jump on have a blast and leave happy. 

Thats the general consensus in my opinion?

With all the bugs and issues going on codies this would certainly help. 

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What's your point? I don't get it. Or are you just starting a new topic on the same issue (steering wheels need to slowed)

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What is the EXACT issue with it?

If it's merely slower than before, you could just turn the difficulty down a little, unless that hurts your pride or something.

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What is the EXACT issue with it?

If it's merely slower than before, you could just turn the difficulty down a little, unless that hurts your pride or something.
The issue is drivability the fun is gone, make it slower by time by all means as it’s not about winnng dropping the AI doesn’t change how the car feels it needs the drivabilty that was there pre patch 1.9. It was fun.! 


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Please codies do this. It was fun. It's now dull. Handling model was fantastic with original setting. Online can keep the new, for the love of god please return it prior 1.9 patch for career.

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What's your point? I don't get it. Or are you just starting a new topic on the same issue (steering wheels need to slowed)
shh

he actually thinks he has more of an argument if he makes more than one thread

just sit back and enjoy the ongoing comedy show

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Coffer said:
What's your point? I don't get it. Or are you just starting a new topic on the same issue (steering wheels need to slowed)
shh

he actually thinks he has more of an argument if he makes more than one thread

just sit back and enjoy the ongoing comedy show
Coffer on a previous thread you said you wouldn’t give me more attention! 

Oh wow here you are again talking shite as usual.

Please leave your mum and dads bedroom and join the real world. There’s so much more in life than being a keyboard warrior. 


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So your point is not to reverse the nerf but to put a bit more of the feeling back in the car?
Pre patch 1.9 medium TC was just fun to drive, jump in have a blast put it down, it’s the mario kart effect the car felt awesome. 

Post patch 1.9 medium TC has gone no fun to drive the jump in have a blast gone. There’s no set up to compensate for car feeling or lack of after the patch. 

The request to revert back for offline only shouldn’t bother any serious racers. 

When your on career mode in a mclaren you get the fun were you can. 

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I honestly doubt that they'll split it.

Having 2 different handling types for offline and online isn't going to work out well.
If codies would respond then all this could be finished.! 

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I honestly doubt that they'll split it.

Having 2 different handling types for offline and online isn't going to work out well.
They gave Gears 4 a Core and a Competitive tuning depending on game mode. Absolute joke. Everyone hates everyone else based on game modes they play.

I always found the cars amazingly fun to drive with no TCS, maybe try that if you are looking for lively car handling.

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FRACTURED said:
I honestly doubt that they'll split it.

Having 2 different handling types for offline and online isn't going to work out well.
They gave Gears 4 a Core and a Competitive tuning depending on game mode. Absolute joke. Everyone hates everyone else based on game modes they play.

I always found the cars amazingly fun to drive with no TCS, maybe try that if you are looking for lively car handling.
The haters have already started even before any game modes have been suggested lol...!

I’m on the ps4 Pad, steering L3, acc/brake on R3, can’t get a calibration to work without TC with that set up. 

Believe me if I could get something working I would. 

I would much rather be playing than on here complaining. 

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emiack76 said:
FRACTURED said:
I honestly doubt that they'll split it.

Having 2 different handling types for offline and online isn't going to work out well.
They gave Gears 4 a Core and a Competitive tuning depending on game mode. Absolute joke. Everyone hates everyone else based on game modes they play.

I always found the cars amazingly fun to drive with no TCS, maybe try that if you are looking for lively car handling.
The haters have already started even before any game modes have been suggested lol...!

I’m on the ps4 Pad, steering L3, acc/brake on R3, can’t get a calibration to work without TC with that set up. 

Believe me if I could get something working I would. 

I would much rather be playing than on here complaining. 


Every comment is not necessarily hating B)

Maybe look to an aftermarket pad, the general feeling seems to be that R2 is pretty crap as an accelerator on PS4 pad. Might be easier than the stick.

With 12/13/14 on the Xbox 360, I found a set of aftermarket triggers, made of aluminium which had swappable springs. Left trigger ran weakest spring, right trigger most powerful. That was a huge a help with running TCS off as full throttle needed quite a bit of strength to overcome the strong spring. So even though the travel was only like 1-1.5cm it was easier to be accurate within those confines. I do now have a right index twice as big as my left though   :#

I know there are R2 and L2 extension available for the PS4, maybe they would help you? Not sure if they make aftermarket triggers now, they don't for Xbox One but its triggers are pretty good as is.

EDIT: Something like this might be overkill, but it would hopefully increase the range of movement if you moved to right trigger.


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It could possibly be. I mod and fix pads occasionally so have tried loads of the aftermarket stuff on xbox side. My first attempt involved hacking away bits of the right trigger with a heated stanley knife (which was quite frankly dangerous), superglue, and a piece of 6x1 lego stolen from the kid. It really worked but the shoddy workmanship led me elewhere to find throttle control.

Razer make some nice pads, I think there is a Raiju pad with better trigger travel and worst case scenario its a nice backup pad.

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emiack76 said:
Dude, that’s really worth looking into.......!

Thanks. 

I do hope this is the solution for you, because it will be a solution for all of us o:)

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@emiack76

Just a little question, who the hell uses the Right Stick to brake and accelerate in 2017?! 

This ain't the PS1 / PS2 anymore..... lol.

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Here's my pad setup on PS4:

L2 = Brakes
L1 = Gear Down
R2 = Throttle
R1 = Gear Up / On Manual Starts Rev Limiter
Triangle = DRS Control / Pit Limiter 
Square = MFD Control
Cross = Changing Camera Angles
Circle = Radio Control
Select / Touchpad = Replay
Start = Menu
Sharebutton = Share Control of PS4
L3 = Steering
R3 = Camera Control
D-Pad = Control over MFD to navigate with up / down and left / right movement

Have been using a very similar type of control layout since F1 2010 released and use this even on all the other racing games on consoles, but only if i'm too lazy to hook up my wheel that is.....

Have a try mate, might help ya out a bit, especially manual shifting makes much more fun with this setup! ;)

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FRACTURED said:
emiack76 said:
FRACTURED said:
I honestly doubt that they'll split it.

Having 2 different handling types for offline and online isn't going to work out well.
They gave Gears 4 a Core and a Competitive tuning depending on game mode. Absolute joke. Everyone hates everyone else based on game modes they play.

I always found the cars amazingly fun to drive with no TCS, maybe try that if you are looking for lively car handling.
The haters have already started even before any game modes have been suggested lol...!

I’m on the ps4 Pad, steering L3, acc/brake on R3, can’t get a calibration to work without TC with that set up. 

Believe me if I could get something working I would. 

I would much rather be playing than on here complaining. 


Every comment is not necessarily hating B)

Maybe look to an aftermarket pad, the general feeling seems to be that R2 is pretty crap as an accelerator on PS4 pad. Might be easier than the stick.

With 12/13/14 on the Xbox 360, I found a set of aftermarket triggers, made of aluminium which had swappable springs. Left trigger ran weakest spring, right trigger most powerful. That was a huge a help with running TCS off as full throttle needed quite a bit of strength to overcome the strong spring. So even though the travel was only like 1-1.5cm it was easier to be accurate within those confines. I do now have a right index twice as big as my left though   :#

I know there are R2 and L2 extension available for the PS4, maybe they would help you? Not sure if they make aftermarket triggers now, they don't for Xbox One but its triggers are pretty good as is.

EDIT: Something like this might be overkill, but it would hopefully increase the range of movement if you moved to right trigger.


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Wow.

You know, something like this never even crossed my mind. I never even investigated a controller mod.

I had a wheel in....I think it was 2013 on the 360 and loved it, but the pedals were too cheap to give any sort of real ability to go TC OFF (for my skill level anyway). 2017 feels like TC OFF would be more doable for me. I've tried more than a little (PS4), even adjusting the accelerator dead zone, but still not had enough success to keep me from getting frustrated and giving in. And at this point, I just can't bring myself to buy another wheel that will probably be obsolete when the next platform comes out....like my old one. I want to drive TC OFF and this might just make it possible.

I will definitely be looking into this.

Cheers

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After a little bit of research, the SCUF Infinity Pro is in the lead for $129.

Can't believe after all these years of gaming, I have never even thought of a modded controller. And I damn sure never thought about a heated Stanley knife, a lego and some super glue.

https://youtu.be/i7hP-mnAc3k

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emiack76 said:
Dude, that’s really worth looking into.......!

Thanks. 

I do hope this is the solution for you, because it will be a solution for all of us o:)
You really care, lol. 

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@emiack76

Just a little question, who the hell uses the Right Stick to brake and accelerate in 2017?! 

This ain't the PS1 / PS2 anymore..... lol.

------------------------------

Here's my pad setup on PS4:

L2 = Brakes
L1 = Gear Down
R2 = Throttle
R1 = Gear Up / On Manual Starts Rev Limiter
Triangle = DRS Control / Pit Limiter 
Square = MFD Control
Cross = Changing Camera Angles
Circle = Radio Control
Select / Touchpad = Replay
Start = Menu
Sharebutton = Share Control of PS4
L3 = Steering
R3 = Camera Control
D-Pad = Control over MFD to navigate with up / down and left / right movement

Have been using a very similar type of control layout since F1 2010 released and use this even on all the other racing games on consoles, but only if i'm too lazy to hook up my wheel that is.....

Have a try mate, might help ya out a bit, especially manual shifting makes much more fun with this setup! ;)

I would imagine people with osteoarthritis in there hands/fingers use this set up because there all thumbs. Lol

Give it try! 

See if your any good when you can’t grip too well with the hands, but thumbs are good!?

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Additional release patch notes for v1.10 just happened, no mention of MTC. Looks like they are sticking to it for all modes. I've never had such a love hate relationship with any game developer.
Do i really have to go buy a physical disc on xbox and play offline without any patches to play with the original traction handling model... looks like it. Keep showing them we are angry guys and gals. Ridiculous.

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A rather big assumption. I've always adjusted the difficulty towards my skill level, never "ego". A bit of a strawman that people have concocted, for reasons only known to them. 

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