yugin96 0 Posted July 1, 2014 And, pray tell, where did I say that Webber was better? I merely said that he was ahead of Vettel going into the last race, which is sufficient to show that Vettel wasn't clearly better than his teammate. In any case Webber had his own mechanical issues too which you seem to have conveniently ignored. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMSKRR 3 Posted July 1, 2014 Webber wasn't robbed of 3 race wins though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevolvingPrawn 1 Posted July 1, 2014 Nah, only the one. Malaysia 2013 ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
couger1981 89 Posted July 1, 2014 And how many countless podiums were lost for Webber when his car kept on braking down? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMSKRR 3 Posted July 7, 2014 RevolvingPrawn said: Nah, only the one. Malaysia 2013 ;) Lol. This again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VetteIfan 0 Posted July 8, 2014 couger1981 said: And how many countless podiums were lost for Webber when his car kept on braking down? Between 2009-2013 Webber had 3 DNF's due to mechanical faults. Between the same time period, Vettel had 8 DNF's through mechanical faults. #TheMythMustStop Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenColt 1 Posted July 8, 2014 VetteIfan said: couger1981 said: And how many countless podiums were lost for Webber when his car kept on braking down? Between 2009-2013 Webber had 3 DNF's due to mechanical faults. Between the same time period, Vettel had 8 DNF's through mechanical faults. #TheMythMustStop What about crappy pitstops which resulted in losing a wheel, what about KERS problems in qualifying which meant failing to even get into Q3, what about all the races where something was wrong with the clutch settings at the start of the race resulting in the driver losing a lot of places and so on and so on.#TryingToFocusOnlyOnMechanicalProblemsWhichResultedInaDNFToMakeVettelsLuckLookWorseThanWebbersMustStop#ItsGettingRidiculous#Seriously Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMSKRR 3 Posted July 8, 2014 Well I am sure Alonso would like one more, after all, he has half the number of titles Vettel has ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenColt 1 Posted July 8, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIIuR-HjFho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VetteIfan 0 Posted July 9, 2014 GoldenColt said: VetteIfan said: couger1981 said: And how many countless podiums were lost for Webber when his car kept on braking down? Between 2009-2013 Webber had 3 DNF's due to mechanical faults. Between the same time period, Vettel had 8 DNF's through mechanical faults. #TheMythMustStop What about crappy pitstops which resulted in losing a wheel, what about KERS problems in qualifying which meant failing to even get into Q3, what about all the races where something was wrong with the clutch settings at the start of the race resulting in the driver losing a lot of places and so on and so on.#TryingToFocusOnlyOnMechanicalProblemsWhichResultedInaDNFToMakeVettelsLuckLookWorseThanWebbersMustStop#ItsGettingRidiculous#Seriously #AndAgainHeresThisLinkhttp://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/groups/f1/forum/topic/vettel-webber-and-reliability-at-red-bull/This covers everything, from bad pitstops to team orders to KERS problems. And yet look how evenly matched the luck is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JensonBottom 1 Posted July 9, 2014 Conveniently that's up to Italy. Webber then went on to have 3 DNFs at Singapore, Korea and Indoa as a result of mechanical failures and may have had more smaller problems that I can't recall whereas Vettel had a perfect car to the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VetteIfan 0 Posted July 10, 2014 Fair do's. The reason it's only done to Italy is because that's the time it was done. Korea wasn't actually a mechanical issue, but it was bad luck for sure. So that's 8 more issues that Webber had than Vettel over 5 years. Wow. Anyway, I'm done with arguing over it. With the greatest if respect everyone's already made up their minds on it and it's what they like to believe, so me arguing this point is useless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMSKRR 3 Posted July 11, 2014 I don't really see why this thread is here tbh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevolvingPrawn 1 Posted July 11, 2014 It's here so I can post stuff like this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenColt 1 Posted July 11, 2014 A few other classics... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdMa 0 Posted July 11, 2014 The difference a logo makes... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
couger1981 89 Posted July 12, 2014 Why would we hate him? he hasn't won a championship yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MBKF1 91 Posted July 12, 2014 couger1981 said: Why would we hate him? he hasn't won a championship yet. And he won't win four in a row either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenColt 1 Posted July 12, 2014 I doubt he'll win even one WDC but hey... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yugin96 0 Posted July 12, 2014 PrayingMantis said: will you all hate rosberg so much when he wins this years championship? No, because Rosberga) isn't a whiny I-already-have-a-bad-language-warning who throws a tantrum every time something doesn't go his wayb) doesn't complain whenever other drivers don't treat him like royalty out on trackc) hasn't won four straight titles on the back of Adrian Newey's genius (not a reason to dislike him as a person, but certainly something that counts against his driving ability) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevolvingPrawn 1 Posted July 12, 2014 And blackmamba is back again @JustbigleeTrolls never give up. This guy is turning into JoeyZ part 2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites