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Is your pace limited by the dynamic racing line?

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I have had this on through corners only since I bought the game, mainly to assist with tracks I am unfamiliar with. Now that I have played it more regularly and am a bit more aware of what is coming on most tracks I am thinking I should take it off.

I just wonder whether the racing line is effectively capping me at a delta that I might be able to beat if I drive naturally and start making judgement on breaking points and throttle output myself?

Anybody make the switch and think it helped them go faster? I guess it's a little difficult to say, given general practice would see you improve anyway so how much of it can you attribute to taking the DRL and how much is just natural from playing the game more.

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It does make you faster and more consistent once you turn it off. But it will take quite a while to get used to it and the gains are minimal aswell. But imo it's always 100% worth turning it off, because once you reach the top level those minimal gains are very important and it's also imo a life skill to be able to judge things like that yourself.

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Specialy with the 3d racingline. You focus on the racingline and not on the apex. I'm practicing to drive without racingline so i can drive without with the new 2018 game. Also bring me a lot more fun to drive without

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I found that once I turned it off, I started to actually memorize the tracks. You find your own racing lines, and once you get used to it ( which can take quite long at first I'll admit) eventually you'll know the corners much better and become a faster, more consistent and independent driver ;) The racing line is also a bit cautious with the braking points, so you might find a lot of under braking especially

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I like the idea of consistency, because at the moment I am not sure I really feel that confident going into each corner. I tend to get through them fine, but especially heavy breaking zones, I find I am slightly inconsistent and feel a sense of relief if I take one relatively well. I am sure it will take some time even though I do know the tracks, but would be nice to get to a point where I know my spots without being governed by an ever changing line.

I find also though that my inconsistency with trail breaking alters my approach, i.e. how quickly do I ease of the break, how quickly do I shift down etc.

I find that I am a good 2-3 seconds a lap slower than the quicker drivers online. Some will invariably be playing with assists that help with the confidence of being able to swing the car into the corners etc, but it would be nice to master the game completely free of assists and still be competitive.

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It's just paint by numbers. If you like to record your races they'll also look much better without a stupid green and red line or god forbid that 3d monstrosity.


Think of all the great passes this season. How horrible would they look with a green and red 3d line telling the driver the absolute latest point he could brake?

Use it to learn the tracks, then get rid of it. Like your first boyfriend/girlfriend.

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I struggled a bit turning it off in the beginning having to re-learn the tracks, breaking points and cornering speeds since i was used to just following a line. I dont think i'm any faster/slower without it now but it is more fun and looks better.

There is a small disadvantage with things you dont exactly practice as much, pit entry braking point, rain/changeable conditions and such where the racing line can give you a reference you otherwise wouldn't have

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I actually found it easy to switch off the racing line, you just need to race on a track where the line isn't accurate, or the braking point isn't right, China and Monza where the speed matters have slightly poor braking points so you'll notice it more there which will give you more confidence to go without, as soon as you have turned it off you'll likely not look back.

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fluke32 said: Is your pace limited by the dynamic racing line?

Depends on what stage you're at with your driving: as a raw beginner, following the guiding line can be a big help in improving lap times (up to a point) - but more experienced racers can often find faster approaches than the guiding line indicates.


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The driving line is a great way to learn race craft, so it depends on your experience, however it is a suggested racing line,  for me it was the last assist I stopped using. I did it by putting up my best lap in time trial with the line on and then practicing with it off until I beat that time, and I did this with every track, difficult at first but got progressively faster with each track. Once you drive without it you will hone your driving style, for example more engine breaking, using more curb, and most importantly LATER breaking in many corners, it will take time but you’re lap times will drop and you will have much more fun looking for that 50 meter board or trackside reference for your breaking point rather than starting at a green line waiting for it to turn colors.

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At the moment i'm racing with the line on for corners, but i think it will be an improvement to get used to race without it. What i have experienced until now is, that i have no feeling about corner speed due to watching the racing line. Many corners cann be taken with racing line yellow. If i always brake until it's green it feels to slow at many times.
As a non pro i think it will be really hard at some tracks, especially for blind corners.
At the moment i'm mostly struggeling with manual shifting. I think i will try to switch off the line first to get more feeling about speed. Maybe it helps for the manual shifting.

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Get used to cockpit view too, because anything else is a bit of a cheat.
Why not let people just enjoy the game the way they like to play it, it's not cheating if it's for fun.

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Get used to cockpit view too, because anything else is a bit of a cheat.

I consider it an aid, not a cheat.                                                  

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Thanks for the comments all. I am not sure about dropping to cockpit view just yet, but taking off the racing line I am definitely going to do. I am hardly competitive out front with it on a the moment, so being a bit further back for the time being isn't too much of an issue for me. I'm still very much in a learning phase with the game, so a transition at this point feels quite natural seeings as i have all other assists off (bar tv cam view if that classifies).

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Get used to cockpit view too, because anything else is a bit of a cheat.
I consider it an aid, not a cheat.                                                  

I consider it an option... games are full of them.

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fluke32 said:
Thanks for the comments all. I am not sure about dropping to cockpit view just yet, but taking off the racing line I am definitely going to do. I am hardly competitive out front with it on a the moment, so being a bit further back for the time being isn't too much of an issue for me. I'm still very much in a learning phase with the game, so a transition at this point feels quite natural seeings as i have all other assists off (bar tv cam view if that classifies).
I can't judge you for using TCam view, but for me personally, cockpit view is the only view that really makes sense. On TCam it feels like I am disconnected to the car, almost like an "out-of-body-experience", and it's a lot less immersive.

In cockpit view it actually feels like I am an F1 driver, whereas TCam merely feels like I'm driving with one, if that makes sense.

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Ho3n3r said:
fluke32 said:
Thanks for the comments all. I am not sure about dropping to cockpit view just yet, but taking off the racing line I am definitely going to do. I am hardly competitive out front with it on a the moment, so being a bit further back for the time being isn't too much of an issue for me. I'm still very much in a learning phase with the game, so a transition at this point feels quite natural seeings as i have all other assists off (bar tv cam view if that classifies).
I can't judge you for using TCam view, but for me personally, cockpit view is the only view that really makes sense. On TCam it feels like I am disconnected to the car, almost like an "out-of-body-experience", and it's a lot less immersive.

In cockpit view it actually feels like I am an F1 driver, whereas TCam merely feels like I'm driving with one, if that makes sense.
I get you, and I have experimented with cockpit. It is something i might give a go more regularly and see how i get on.

Tried no racing line and had a bit of a mixed bag on different tracks. Feel it will benefit me longer term though as I don't feel chained to the line and have freedom of the track to put the car where I want it etc. Time will tell though as I am definitely slower at the moment.

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I agree that t-cam is much less emersive, as for being a kind of cheat, I can’t speak on that, as I have been using cockpit since f1 2010 and on all my other racing titles. So I find it more difficult and have slower lap times with any other view, also the default cockpit, is actually a bit off from the actual perspective of an f1 driver, so I have it adjusted to video of driver eye tracking, this results in seeing a lot less track and hunting for apex’s, it’s even more immersive.

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Operator1 said:

Get used to cockpit view too, because anything else is a bit of a cheat.
I consider it an aid, not a cheat.                                                  

I consider it an option... games are full of them.

Joe's comment just flat out made me laugh. 

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Operator1 said:

Get used to cockpit view too, because anything else is a bit of a cheat.
I consider it an aid, not a cheat.                                                  

I consider it an option... games are full of them.

Yeah, options like ABS and traction control and going to play Super Mario Kart, with the other kiddies.

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The driving line is a great way to learn race craft
I always found the opposite to be true. The guys who are using it pay less attention to what is around them. They're more likely to clip you through a turn, especially a switchback, or plough into the back of you in the big braking zones.

Decent way to learn a new track. As is "starting out slow"  

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FRACTURED said:
The driving line is a great way to learn race craft
I always found the opposite to be true. The guys who are using it pay less attention to what is around them. They're more likely to clip you through a turn, especially a switchback, or plough into the back of you in the big braking zones.

Decent way to learn a new track. As is "starting out slow"  
I guess that depends on your 'starting level'. If you have 0 experience with driving/racing games and decide to get into it for the first time, well it will be very useful to learn about braking zones, turn in points, apexes and racing lines in general. But as soon as someone understands those basic concepts I'd recommend turning it off as soon as possible, that's when you really get to develop your own driving style and find different ways to drive each track and type of corner, instead of reacting to what a colored line wants you to do.

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Operator1 said:

fluke32 said: Is your pace limited by the dynamic racing line?

Depends on what stage you're at with your driving: as a raw beginner, following the guiding line can be a big help in improving lap times (up to a point) - but more experienced racers can often find faster approaches than the guiding line indicates.


Indeed although I admit I have racing line on I tend to use it more to help m pick out my braking points rather than stick to it as a hard line

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I wouldn't say that it matters either way.  You can be just as consistent with both.  But with the line you are actually racing a line more than a circuit.  I think once you turn it off, you will really appreciate learning the circuit rather than following a line that changes colors.  But if you don't care about that then you are following the line.  However if you ever accidently join a lobby or have a cheeky host that turns if off when not one is noticing then you are in for an interesting race.  But I would say the racing line takes a lot away from the driving experience on any game.

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