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Impossible to keep up with the AI race pace solely due to high tyre inner carcass temperatures.

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Senna1990 said:
Just crawled around spain, 3rd gear whole race 5 lap race by lap 3 fronts over heated.
This heating bug is insane
I like the way someone disagreed on this comment! What are u calling the guy a liar! It’s fact if he did it not opinion

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Senna1990 said:
I don't mind the overheating but not after 3 laps of 5 lap online races, tires shouldnt overheat that quickly is my point 
It happens in real life.. On the more demanding tracks if a driver pushes hard, their tyres can overheat within one or two laps. If you just take care of the tyres and drive a steady clean 'race pace' instead of pushing like you're driving qualifying, they won't overheat. 

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Senna1990 said:
I don't mind the overheating but not after 3 laps of 5 lap online races, tires shouldnt overheat that quickly is my point 
It happens in real life.. On the more demanding tracks if a driver pushes hard, their tyres can overheat within one or two laps. If you just take care of the tyres and drive a steady clean 'race pace' instead of pushing like you're driving qualifying, they won't overheat

**See Senna1990's post earlier in the thread. I did a test on COTA cruising around and both front supersoft tyres are gone by lap 7. Standard setup and medium TC with no other assist. Stopped playing the game now.. and start again until it is resolved. 

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**See Senna1990's post earlier in the thread. I did a test on COTA cruising around and both front supersoft tyres are gone by lap 7. Standard setup and medium TC with no other assist. Stopped playing the game now.. and start again until it is resolved. 
If that's the case it should be posted as a bug with a video showing the issue perhaps, but they're certainly not glitched in my game as I can manage them on every track by driving smoothly. If people are going to discuss how to manage the 'normal' temperatures compared to a glitch that only some people claim to have in the very same topic, that'll quickly get confusing..

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The biggest factor in tyre temps is your driving. Oversteering when putting the power down and sliding into corners because you've taken too much speed will absolutely kill your rears which gives you the feeling of driving on ice.
JB, the rear tyres are never a problem... Its the front tyres. It's not the driving style, it is a bug plain and simple. I have done tests in practice cruising around the COTA at 1.40min laps on the super soft compound tyres and they are shot by the start of lap 7.
This should not happen for the pad users. 
I’m sure how smooth you are being with steering inputs has something to do with it also? 

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@senna1990 how are my comments off topic?  I am talking directly about the issue. 

You need to provide some video so we can see how you are driving.

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Maybe the doubters here should read the 
"Impossible to keep up with the AI race pace solely due to high tyre inner carcass temperatures" thread. It's nothing to do with setups or driving styles at all. Will see if I can post a video on YouTube doing some practice runs.. however at the moment I am done with the game! 

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NickDahy said:
@senna1990 how are my comments off topic?  I am talking directly about the issue. 

You need to provide some video so we can see how you are driving.

That's his thing. I just slapped an ignore on him after some payback. 

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RE: Can't overheat rears?

Oh yes you can, especially once wear is high. I had a 118 rear left. Bloody difficult to deal with at that point.

My workaround is qualify q2 on middle tyre finish on hardest if I can make q3 or just start hard and go to middle tyre. They can still overheat but the flash heating seems less bad so carcass doesnt end up so high

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lower the anti roll bars, increase the ride hights and low spings then you will suffer much less with tyres.

So basically a lot of ppl were crying out for meanungful tyre temps for years and now that we got them the same group wants the simplified, absolutely ridicolous imo.

In my opinion on some tracks the tyres are NOT SENSITIVE ENOUGH but overall it was such a massive step up compared to 2017 so rather then blaming the game you should accept a challenge that real life teams and drivers are faced with aswell and work on solutions, instead of blaming the game for an unsufficient amount of skill on the side of a few players here.
Wheel user? Just curious.

Yes crafting a better setup can help on many of the tracks in the game, but the tyre temp system was pretty obviously developed and balanced with a steering wheel in mind. There are just some tracks where the system and using a pad do not mix. No amount of management or setup has allowed me to run Monaco at a reasonable pace. Singapore and the U.S. have also been problematic. It's not going to matter how much I change the setup on these tracks. The mere fact that there are a lot of corners and not enough straights means that turning with a controller is going to run the temps too high.

Also balancing the system for pad users isn't necessarily the same thing as simplifying them. I'd mostly settle for setup changes making the aforementioned tracks actually drivable at this point. (Like maybe you could still overheat if you ran too much tire pressure, roll bar, ect.)

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The problem is the game has been set up to favor the esports market and those that use steering wheels, not thinking that yes the heat model is good for them it ends up screwing the pad market who make up 98% of your market.
it does't need changing per ce needs re balancing for pad users, theres plenty of evidence posted on here so far,
Set up changes don;'t help, changing of driving style doesn't help,
they overheat stupidly early and never cool down, unless theres a fix I will be going to get a refund at game before the 30 days im entitled to one is up because its undrivable, because you have piroitied e sports at the deprement of your casual market who have lifes and dont spend 18 hours a day playing the game,

I see you have noted it reading threads any chance of an update please instead of the normal codies silence ? 

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botgroper said:
Its all on the pad because they have tried to make it an esport/wheel only game,
Such as shame

If that's the route they are going down then the sales will hit rock bottom next year. Not sure how they will resolve it so looking at getting my money back for a duff product. 

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botgroper said:
Its all on the pad because they have tried to make it an esport/wheel only game,
Such as shame
Is that why assists are still as quick as no assists??

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botgroper said:
Its all on the pad because they have tried to make it an esport/wheel only game,
Such as shame

If that's the route they are going down then the sales will hit rock bottom next year. Not sure how they will resolve it so looking at getting my money back for a duff product. 

well it seems that way cause we havent heard anything on a patch 

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I have never seen my tyres overheating. I am on a wheel so I don't know if that matters, but I have no problem. Always in the green on my mfd.

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With all the feedback Codemasters should of just released f1 2017 halo edition.

its two/three weeks into release drop down ai level until you get used to it and realize it’s a different game..

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I can vouch for this. It's always the front tyres, it's always the same tracks and it's always bad. Exactly after 4 or 5 laps, the pace dropped by around 7-8 seconds for me (10 lap experiment at Singapore in FP1). No changes to the driving style or setup helped this. I run the game on PS4, using a DualShock 4. This is a bug. Please fix it in 1.06, Codies.

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I'm gonna simulate the Monaco and Singapore races until this is patched in some kind of way. Seeing how many people have problems with this Codies just have to do something. I hope they will, because this is in fact a gamebreaking problem for some. I've changed my driving style so much over the last two weeks just to keep the temps down but still the AI always kills me after a few laps. In Singapore I can't even do the race strategy programme properly cause the tyres heat up so badly after two or three laps.

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simon7109 said:
I have never seen my tyres overheating. I am on a wheel so I don't know if that matters, but I have no problem. Always in the green on my mfd.
Its not true i am using driving force GT wheel and facing similar issues in some tracks like Spain, Paul Ricard,and Silverstone, We can improve high front tyre temps by avoiding kerbs and braking early and reducing entry speed to corners but still wont help as it overheats to 102 C and it makes keeping AI behind difficult cause we loose traction exiting corners and they just zoom past easily. I havent tried both PS4 and Xbox One pads yet on this game but i sense same issues for those too as i read comments. Hopefully next patch will fix this as currently its near impossible to play as it. By the way i use AI difficulty at 100% as i cant try above it for this reason.

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FRACTURED said:
RE: Can't overheat rears?

Oh yes you can, especially once wear is high. I had a 118 rear left. Bloody difficult to deal with at that point.

My workaround is qualify q2 on middle tyre finish on hardest if I can make q3 or just start hard and go to middle tyre. They can still overheat but the flash heating seems less bad so carcass doesnt end up so high
Oh FFS   *click *  I did that in 2017.and for the 1st 7 races this year ive been trying to figure out why i can't get my tyre strategy right,  then i read this    ahh yes my quail tyre lol,   

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So my self imposed ban on playing the game lasted long! Deciding instead to turn a negative into a positive I am going to continue my career but will look at ways to reduce the pain.
Just did the Mexican Grand Prix. Have learnt that the hardest tyres are the way to go....so from now on I will picker the harder compounds for the weekend. I will start the Brazilian race on the super soft tyre, pit when the temps reach red and go onto the soft tyre before two stints on the medium tyre. The hardest compound does hang on so in theory I should be able to beat my team mate (Stroll) with this strategy. Any safety cars will aid my cause. I am in slowest car so won't fight any unnecessary battles in the early phase. The temperatures going red are nothing to do with tyre deg too, I put scrubbed Hyper soft tyres on which were were already beyond 40% in Mexico and still got 7 laps out of them. 

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Faya said:
Hi all,

I have passed this thread and the other thread about tyre temps back to the team for further review. If you could also let me know the following, that would be great. Thanks!

Which tracks are most problematic for you?
Is it a specific tyre compound?
Are you using a controller or a wheel?
Which Traction Control setting are you on?
Are you running a custom car set up? If so, what set up are you using?
And what length are the races? 
@Faya

Would it be possible to do a feedback form for this? I personally wouldn’t want big changes made to the fundamental gameplay without first being 100% sure if a change is necessary and it its something that only affects certain things like pad players or wheel players plus if they use any assists. Just to be safe. 

Me personally ive not had any issues with tyres apart from Monaco and Singapore on a pad with no assists, but they do overheat on those tracks understandably, ...but I guess it could also be down to me just not being very strong at those particular tracks :)

Many thanks
^^^^^this  Common sense.. I have a decent set-up (t300rs with fanatec csl pedals). I haven't had any issue with carcass overheating, and most tracks, there are a few that catch me out... Maybe this whole thread should be reversed ,  i, like many, have an issue with A.I seemingly having warm tyres after the safety car.. So maybe its not so much that your tyre temps get to hot, it quite possibly could be that the A.I dont suffer from the same tyre wear/temps that we do

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Is this issue solely a pad vs wheel thing? I use a wheel and haven't seeny anything remotely like overheating tyres...

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