Patch Notes for 1.05 – DISCUSSION THREAD

[Faya 1,190]

Hi all! The Xbox One 1.05 patch is due to go live at around 1pm UK time (GMT+1). I have updated the main thread here with this information as well. 

[FRACTURED 30]

Fingers crossed it doesn't go as bad as other systems. seem to have

[woodyinho44 13]

yeah guys , and especially to the admins here.

i feel like i wrote my fingers sore the last days, but all i hear is, there seem to be problems and we working on it, be patient and so on .

to really be honest with you, i feel like this game could be the greatest game in F1 History but...

why the hell there are the same issues like the last games from 2017 and 2016? 

and why the hell it take sooo unbelievable long for you to fix them out of that game?

all i talk is from the online issues , other small bugs seem not that dramatic so far, but the online lobby especially ranked Matchmaking everybody was waiting for, is just fu**ed up, sorry for that but its true:

no names after 1.05 as well
stats didn't work, reset after every new start into the game
lobbies are crashing
u can't search several times in a row for a lobby
car on top of other cars in the grid

all the the achievements the online players had so far ( rank etc ) are useless, cause it seems like last year, the stats and level etc will get a reset someday. cause it seems like the same bugs from last year and you did it that way those days.

instead working on that massive problems you change corner cutting rules and messed up completely , and that shit with medium tc stuff, maybe some people don't understand that their tire temperatures are just freaking high when the spawn and did a donut.

so all in all , as someone who buys your game every single time since its from Codies now, a huge fan of online experience, not a guy who buys the game and throw it away cause its just fun, as a player like hundretthousend out there, who just want to enjoy your game, working stable online, with all working stats etc.

Please hurry up guys...

[PJTierney 4,908]

Faya said:

Hi all! The Xbox One 1.05 patch is due to go live at around 1pm UK time (GMT+1). I have updated the main thread here with this information as well. 

Thank you, will try out Multiplayer tomorrow then.

Any word on potential changes to the Safety Rating calculations? After 1.04 it felt harder to increase a Safety Rating as penalties seemed to outweigh the benefits gained from racing cleanly; I've seen quite a few people de-rank from B to D over an evening despite having "clean" races.

[woodyinho44 13]

its 18 Days now and no improvement , No!

[JiggaF1 0]

Medium TC should simply be removed. If people struggle with traction then they can use Full TC and it will help them to keep the car on the track. It should not be a problem to tune Full TC, so that it is 1s or so slower than no TC. You nailed it on F1 2013. If you want to be quicker you must master no TC. Problem solved. TC should be for people that are new to the game or simply do not want to practice. They just want to enjoy the game. That is perfectly fine, of course. Medium TC is simply used by people that are already quick that want to be quicker and make no mistakes, because the computer will calculate everything for them. It is a huge advantage especially in the wet. Assists should help bad players not good players. Just look at Limitless and his Assists vs No Assist video. He would be 0.3-0.5 seconds quicker with assists and he will make less mistakes. They won't ever change it, because they are afraid they will piss off people that are abusing Medium TC currently., which they certainly would, but it would be good for the game overall. Sometimes you must do what is right, even if it is not popular. 

[woodyinho44 13]

anyway...

if tc off or on or med i don't care, if the game online works like that, none of the 3 tc makes it joyable

it is a complete mess and slowly i can understand people who write that it happen for reason.

otherwise i can't believe that its patched and much more worse after the patch than before, although they know the problems and bugs from the last game. so it shouldn't take that long.

[robin8f 29]

JiggaF1 said:

Medium TC should simply be removed. If people struggle with traction then they can use Full TC and it will help them to keep the car on the track. It should not be a problem to tune Full TC, so that it is 1s or so slower than no TC. You nailed it on F1 2013. If you want to be quicker you must master no TC. Problem solved. TC should be for people that are new to the game or simply do not want to practice. They just want to enjoy the game. That is perfectly fine, of course. Medium TC is simply used by people that are already quick that want to be quicker and make no mistakes, because the computer will calculate everything for them. It is a huge advantage especially in the wet. Assists should help bad players not good players. Just look at Limitless and his Assists vs No Assist video. He would be 0.3-0.5 seconds quicker with assists and he will make less mistakes. They won't ever change it, because they are afraid they will **** off people that are abusing Medium TC currently., which they certainly would, but it would be good for the game overall. Sometimes you must do what is right, even if it is not popular. 

Completely agree with you, took the words right out of my mouth ?

[HuntingHornet 8]

Hey Guys,

I'd like to start a little discussion, because I can't help me^^ it feels like after 1.05 the handling is not as good as it was before 1.05. Perhaps I'm silly but it feels like the car is not steering properly. You need significantly more steering angle than before the patch and the car feeling is less accurate  than before. And I'm on the same difficult (105) under same conditions 2 seconds slower as before because the car feels not as good as in version 1.04.


Let me know you're thoughts.

I'm on PS4 Pro with a Thrustmaster 300 GT Edition and a F1 Wheel Add-on 

[woodyinho44 13]

i can't understand why this discussion overrules the obvious problems this game have online

for them its like no pressure, easy going, they talk about TC and we just chill and fix the bugs for weeks....haha c#mon

[ZzHOODzZ 0]

so i noticed in the patch for xbox today there were thrustmaster wheel fixes .... yet the g920 buttons still dont work properly despite multple people bringing it up ..... lsb and rsb are the buttons im referring to... i have also posted about this in the techincal help section aswell as other people it was even an issue in 2017 game and wasnt fixed 

[TRGTspecialist 0]

Re: the ongoing traction control Medium debate, I'd just like to re-emphasise this point:

TRGTspecialist said:

The balance the option achieves betwen making the car feel 'alive' but comfortable is just fabulous, and for me the game is that much more enjoyable because of it. :)

For me, the effect the option has on the *feel* of the car - irrespective of laptime or what not - is very satisfying, it's a feeling that's not replicated by the other TC modes, and for me it simply makes the game more fun.

This is why I would like the ultimate solution to this issue to allow Medium to be kept as it is, even if that means restricting its use in online/competitive modes. I absolutely don't want the way I play to impact on other people's fun - but by the same token, it would be great if other people's views don't end up taking away my fun as well.

Plenty of games out there have options/features that make those games more fun offline - and they simply don't make them available online for the sake of balance, rather than chuck them out altogether. I very much hope this can be treated the same way. :)

[simon7109 0]

JiggaF1 said:

Medium TC should simply be removed. If people struggle with traction then they can use Full TC and it will help them to keep the car on the track. It should not be a problem to tune Full TC, so that it is 1s or so slower than no TC. You nailed it on F1 2013. If you want to be quicker you must master no TC. Problem solved. TC should be for people that are new to the game or simply do not want to practice. They just want to enjoy the game. That is perfectly fine, of course. Medium TC is simply used by people that are already quick that want to be quicker and make no mistakes, because the computer will calculate everything for them. It is a huge advantage especially in the wet. Assists should help bad players not good players. Just look at Limitless and his Assists vs No Assist video. He would be 0.3-0.5 seconds quicker with assists and he will make less mistakes. They won't ever change it, because they are afraid they will **** off people that are abusing Medium TC currently., which they certainly would, but it would be good for the game overall. Sometimes you must do what is right, even if it is not popular. 

Have you tried full tc? It's terrible. And not just in being slow, but in handling too. If you want to be competitive against 110 AI you can't play full tc. Medium is the sweet spot. You can feel the power and can feel the spin if you are too agressive, but you won't spin out every corner. Why do you want to ruin our career experience? Most people bought this game for the career mode, only the minority is playing online, if you don't want medium TC people to be faster, set your lobby to no assist, problem solved. Or you know, switch to Medium TC, so you will be faster too. Or codies should just add an option to search for players with the same TC option as you. That way those few elitists complaining won't ruin our game.

[ZzHOODzZ 0]

simon7109 said:

If you want to be competitive against 110 AI you can't play full tc. 


so turn the AI down.... thats what the slider is for :)

[simon7109 0]

ZzHOODzZ said:

simon7109 said:

If you want to be competitive against 110 AI you can't play full tc. 


so turn the AI down.... thats what the slider is for :)

But I don't want to? I enjoy the challange 110 AI is giving me. On lower they are too slow at some places and don't fight that hard.

[ZzHOODzZ 0]

simon7109 said:

ZzHOODzZ said:

simon7109 said:

If you want to be competitive against 110 AI you can't play full tc. 


so turn the AI down.... thats what the slider is for :)

But I don't want to? I enjoy the challange 110 AI is giving me. On lower they are too slow at some places and don't fight that hard.

so lower your assists then.... if you need assists to beat AI u should lower the AI if they are then too fast learn with less assists... medium TC shouldnt be something u rely on it should be a stepping stone to no assits and if is as fast or faster than no assists then its broken aint it ....  if you keep spinning out try practicing controlling the trottle onstead of going 100% instantly

[simon7109 0]

ZzHOODzZ said:

simon7109 said:

ZzHOODzZ said:

simon7109 said:

If you want to be competitive against 110 AI you can't play full tc. 


so turn the AI down.... thats what the slider is for :)

But I don't want to? I enjoy the challange 110 AI is giving me. On lower they are too slow at some places and don't fight that hard.

so lower your assists then.... if you need assists to beat AI u should lower the AI if they are then too fast learn with less assists... medium TC shouldnt be something u rely on it should be a stepping stone to no assits and if is as fast or faster than no assists then its broken aint it ....  if you keep spinning out try practicing controlling the trottle onstead of going 100% instantly

What if I and many others are enjoying it how it is? Why ruin our fun? Why do you care if medium tc is faster than no tc in career? If you have a problem with this in MP, than codies should fix that and not mess with our experience. And BTW what if medium tc is is only faster than no tc because you are not good enough with no tc?

[ZzHOODzZ 0]

simon7109 said:

ZzHOODzZ said:

simon7109 said:

ZzHOODzZ said:

simon7109 said:

If you want to be competitive against 110 AI you can't play full tc. 


so turn the AI down.... thats what the slider is for :)

But I don't want to? I enjoy the challange 110 AI is giving me. On lower they are too slow at some places and don't fight that hard.

so lower your assists then.... if you need assists to beat AI u should lower the AI if they are then too fast learn with less assists... medium TC shouldnt be something u rely on it should be a stepping stone to no assits and if is as fast or faster than no assists then its broken aint it ....  if you keep spinning out try practicing controlling the trottle onstead of going 100% instantly

What if I and many others are enjoying it how it is? Why ruin our fun? Why do you care if medium tc is faster than no tc in career? If you have a problem with this in MP, than codies should fix that and not mess with our experience. And BTW what if medium tc is is only faster than no tc because you are not good enough with no tc?

have you seen the video from limitless ?? if not i suggest watching it ... also as i said before medium yc should be a stepping stone between full tc and no tc it shouldnt be a crutch for people to lean on career or not ... there is no point going to your mates anf saying "yeah i play on 110% ai ...... but i have all the assists on„ just makes u sound bad .... i personally use no assits for noth career and online and do the same times roughly with and without medium TC all they gonna do is make it slightly slower that way it encourages people to actuallly get good..... also ABS is a bigger problem currently anyways... people going to the 50 board on hairpins and still making the turn from top speed is a little dumb

[LilBrown47 6]

@simon7109

>If you want to be competitive against 110 AI you can't play full tc. Medium is the sweet spot. 
>BTW what if medium tc is is only faster than no tc because you are not good enough with no tc?

Can't tell if you are joking, or if this is simply put the result of todays day and age of people that believe that they deserve to get everything handed to them for free, but this is ridiculous.

To recapture:
-Plays with assists as he probably can't drive without it or is not consistent enough.
-Challenges the highest AI difficulty despite obviously being a man with a set of low driving skills.
-Possibly refuses to put time and effort into becoming a proficient driver for various individual reasons.
-Complains that his OP Assists could possibly be nerfed into oblivion.

>Or you know, switch to Medium TC, so you will be faster too. 

Why would anyone that put hours into becoming a proficient no assists driver want to do that mate?

Seriously, where's the sense of a healthy competition, if a simple "exploit", Medium TC, will make the best drivers become at least 3 tenths to a shocking 2 seconds faster to their peak performance?

Assists should only do the job they are supposed to, assisting the driver to stay on track whilst not losing control of the car, but in reality it's far too overpowered to the point where mediocre Medium TC users are able to challenge 110 AI easily.

Either way, Medium TC being nerfed or being taken away from the game won't destroy your overall experience, how you might ask, because your choice of AI difficulty is not in line with your actual driving perfomance.

But sadly that is the key problem with those that do not share the sense of a healthy competition, they want it all without grinding their bums off to get to the point of challenging the most difficult foes fair and square.

#ThereAreNoShortcutsToPerfection

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Three hypothetical solutions for Codemasters.

Solution #1:

Make certain assists and game settings hardcoded to specific AI difficulty levels, for example, from 50 AI upwards you can't use Auto Gears anymore, from 70 AI upwards you can't use Full TC, ABS, Manual Suggested Gears or Auto ERS anymore, whereas from 90 AI upwards you are locked to no assists only and from 100 AI upwards the whole game will be set to test the cream of the crop.

0 AI - 49 AI = Full TC, ABS On, Auto Gears, Auto ERS, Racing Line On, No Damage or Regular Damage, Regular Corner Cut Rules, Dynamic Weather Or Dry Weather Only, SC on, Manual Starts Assisted, Pit Assists on.

50 AI - 69 AI = Full TC, ABS On, Manual Suggested Gears, Auto ERS, Racing Line On, Regular Damage, Regular Corner Cut Rules, Dynamic Weather, SC on, Manual Starts, Pit Assists on.

70 AI - 89 AI = Medium TC, ABS Off, Manual Gears, Racing Line Corners Only, Manual ERS, Regular Damage, Regular Corner Cut Rules, Dynamic Weather, SC on, Manual Starts, Pit Assists off.

90 AI - 99 AI = No assists, Manual ERS, Full Damage, Regular Corner Cut Rules, Dynamic Weather, SC on, Manual Starts, Pit Assists off.

100 AI - 110 AI = No assists, Manual ERS, Simulation Damage, Strict Corner Cut Rules, Dynamic Weather, SC on, Manual Starts, Pit Assists Off.

Solution #2:

Get rid of "Medium TC" alltogether and rename "Full TC" to "TC", whilst developing a proper driving school for nubs & scrubs that will make sure that they get the desperately needed helping hand to master no assists driving once and for all.

Solution #3:

Make "Medium TC" unavailable in Multiplayer Mode completely.

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I was a nub back in 2011 as well and have never excessively driven any racing game before getting hands on F1 2010 / 2011 back then, still i managed to learn no assists driving pretty quickly to be competitive by watching real life onboard pole laps and remembering where the real drivers did brake, turn, accelerate and shift etc., it helped a lot and made me more wary about my driving in general.

Also let us be realistic for a moment, it seriously doesn't take a long time to make some solid improvements and that comes from a guy that couldn't drive in a straight line with all assists turned on at the beginning of his humble hobby "racing sim career".

Just do it.

PS: As long as you don't have a medical condition that prevents you from gaining natural muscle memory, you don't have any valid excuses, especially as 30 minutes of playtime every sunday is more than enough to make some steady positive ground towards perfection...

[simon7109 0]

Believe me, I would gladly play without any tc if I could, but I can't. Btw everything else is turned off and on simulation. With medium TC I still feel the car and power but without too much struggle out if corners. I am playing with a 9 years old DFGT and my throttle pedal basically have 3 stances. No throttle, medium throttle and full throttle. Can't really play with it in between those. 
But sure, ruin the experience of 90% of the player base and remove options that makes the game fun for us because of some special snowflakes. Tell me, why does it bother you if I can beat 110 AI with only medium tc on? It would not bother me even if full assists people could beat 110 AI, so why does it bother you? Is this the best thing you achieved in life and you are afraid that people with "less skill" can beat the sam AI as you?

[ZzHOODzZ 0]

LilBrown47 said:

@simon7109 

>If you want to be competitive against 110 AI you can't play full tc. Medium is the sweet spot. 
>BTW what if medium tc is is only faster than no tc because you are not good enough with no tc?

Can't tell if you are joking, or if this is simply put the result of todays day and age of people that believe that they deserve to get everything handed to them for free, but this is ridiculous.

To recapture:
-Plays with assists as he probably can't drive without it or is not consistent enough.
-Challenges the highest AI difficulty despite obviously being a man with a set of low driving skills.
-Possibly refuses to put time and effort into becoming a proficient driver for various individual reasons.
-Complains that his OP Assists could possibly be nerfed into oblivion.

>Or you know, switch to Medium TC, so you will be faster too. 

Why would anyone that put hours into becoming a proficient no assists driver want to do that mate?

Seriously, where's the sense of a healthy competition, if a simple "exploit", Medium TC, will make the best drivers become at least 3 tenths to a shocking 2 seconds faster to their peak performance?

Assists should only do the job they are supposed to, assisting the driver to stay on track whilst not losing control of the car, but in reality it's far too overpowered to the point where mediocre Medium TC users are able to challenge 110 AI easily.

Either way, Medium TC being nerfed or being taken away from the game won't destroy your overall experience, how you might ask, because your choice of AI difficulty is not in line with your actual driving perfomance.

But sadly that is the key problem with those that do not share the sense of a healthy competition, they want it all without grinding their bums off to get to the point of challenging the most difficult foes fair and square.

#ThereAreNoShortcutsToPerfection

------------------------------

Three hypothetical solutions for Codemasters.

Solution #1:

Make certain assists and game settings hardcoded to specific AI difficulty levels, for example,

0 AI - 49 AI = Full TC, ABS On, Racing Line On, No Damage or Regular Damage, Regular Corner Cut Rules, Dynamic Weather Or Dry Weather Only, SC on, Manual Starts Assisted, Pit Assists on.

50 AI - 69 AI = Full TC, ABS On, Racing Line On, Regular Damage, Regular Corner Cut Rules, Dynamic Weather, SC on, Manual Starts, Pit Assists on.

70 AI - 89 AI = Medium TC, ABS Off, Racing Line Corners Only, Regular Damage, Regular Corner Cut Rules, Dynamic Weather, SC on, Manual Starts, Pit Assists off.

90 AI - 99 AI = No assists, Full Damage, Regular Corner Cut Rules, Dynamic Weather, SC on, Manual Starts, Pit Assists off.

100 AI - 110 AI = No assists, Simulation Damage, Strict Corner Cut Rules, Dynamic Weather, SC on, Manual Starts, Pit Assists Off.

Solution #2:

Get rid of "Medium TC" alltogether and rename "Full TC" to "TC", whilst developing a proper driving school for nubs & scrubs that will make sure that they get the desperately needed helping hand to master no assists driving once and for all.

Solution #3:

Make "Medium TC" unavailable in Multiplayer Mode completely.

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I was a nub back in 2011 as well and have never excessively driven any racing game before getting hands on F1 2010 / 2011 back then, still i managed to learn no assists driving pretty quickly to be competitive by watching real life onboard pole laps and remembering where the real drivers did brake, turn, accelerate and shift etc., it helped a lot and made me more wary about my driving in general.

Also let us be realistic for a moment, it seriously doesn't take a long time to make some solid improvements and that comes from a guy that couldn't drive in a straight line with all assists turned on at the beginning of his humble hobby "racing sim career".

Just do it.

PS: As long as you don't have a medical condition that prevents you from gaining natural muscle memory, you don't have any valid excuses, especially as 30 minutes of playtime every sunday is more than enough to make some steady positive ground towards perfection...

well said sir well said .... 

[ZzHOODzZ 0]

simon7109 said:

Believe me, I would gladly play without any tc if I could, but I can't. Btw everything else is turned off and on simulation. With medium TC I still feel the car and power but without too much struggle out if corners. I am playing with a 9 years old DFGT and my throttle pedal basically have 3 stances. No throttle, medium throttle and full throttle. Can't really play with it in between those. 
But sure, ruin the experience of 90% of the player base and remove options that makes the game fun for us because of some special snowflakes. Tell me, why does it bother you if I can beat 110 AI with only medium tc on? It would not bother me even if full assists people could beat 110 AI, so why does it bother you? Is this the best thing you achieved in life and you are afraid that people with "less skill" can beat the sam AI as you?

do you know how the setup system works ? just drop your on throttle diff ... problem solved  and u know your whole point becomes devalued when you start trying to insult people ....

edit: you could also increase throttle linearity in wheel settings too i believe 

[simon7109 0]

Oh and I use racing line too. Should I be slower because of that too?

[ZzHOODzZ 0]

simon7109 said:

Oh and I use racing line too. Should I be slower because of that too?

if u stick to the line and follow the braking part religously then u already are slower.... sorry to break it to u lol

[simon7109 0]

Well I am beating 110 AI so not that slow I guess...