Patch Notes for 1.05 – DISCUSSION THREAD

[Chiarello 4]

Elementical said:

 add MORE CHOICE, don't take it away! 

Exactly, like another post before you, why not just add a LOW setting and keeping the mid as it is

And for online lobbies/races, option for pairing only with the same settings as the player. If the player plays with full TC, lobies only with full TC.

[TrueRacerMic 20]

I agree with @BiggyT, we didn't ask for medium traction to become harder ,we said it should be slower than no traction control, so its fair for no traction users. But if it's true and Medium Traction is harder than that's wrong and not what we asked for ,and this is coming from a No Traction user. Make med TC slower, not harder @Faya

[gogeta24 0]

The gameplay without this patch and TC Medium was fantastic, now, is unplayable, it was fun, and a really improvement since 2017

[Guilhermao 2]

So people who only wants to have a good time and play their career with TC in medium are the ones harmed? What are you thinking CM??? Most players buy your game because of the career mode, you can do whatever you want in online but please do not fuck our games for nothing! 

[fattier71 3]

NellyFurtado said:

This is ridiculous. I cannot drive on the medium traction control setting, it's even more worse than off traction control. The car is spinning out every corner. I might need to 'Turn off the Light'

If you cant drive with the médium traction,  you have to use the full traction that simple.  It means you are not good enough for the medium .

[Turtlemoose 75]

Chiarello said:

Elementical said:

 add MORE CHOICE, don't take it away! 

Exactly, like another post before you, why not just add a LOW setting and keeping the mid as it is

And for online lobbies/races, option for pairing only with the same settings as the player. If the player plays with full TC, lobies only with full TC.

None - Low - Medium -Full:  how much easier woule that be and would cater to everyone. Just like when codies added the Master difficulty in 2016 it didn't effect people who were happy to still race on expert or legend.

Add more choice to a game, don't amend somethingpopular because the elite online fanatics in the minority say so, fix real problems instead!!!

[LAPJENL70 0]

Medium traction control with gamepad is just fine after patch. Hardly different as before the patch.

[TRGTspecialist 0]

Chiarello said:

To those saying GIT GUD or find time to learn, i've played 300 hours on 2017  (medium TC 94-98 AI difficulty) and already at 40 hours on 2018, i will not get better, im just happy the way im playing, Medium TC was just about the right handling for consistent lap times without too many errors and not being impossible to spin like with full TC.
No TC is just not enjoyable to play and before all, this is a freaking videogame, before the simulation aspect, it has got to be fun and accessible to everyone, just needs options for those that want to play like a real sim with wheels/pedals or more arcadeish to have a nice time racing the ai.

Got to agree with this, TC Medium hit a sweet spot for me where the car felt as alive and responsive as it could whilst still being controllable and comfortable. In anticipation of the PS4 patch I tried TC Off and High today - the former I found frustratingly difficult, and the car bogs down quite a lot under acceleration with the latter. Both I find a fair bit less fun than Medium.

If there are concerns with the option's potential advantage in online/competitive circles, surely there are solutions to this (like filters and leaderboard rules) that don't require effectively removing something that at least some people found really fun?

In any case I play exclusively offline and so this is particularly jarring for me. It feels like because some people have a certain idea of how the game "should" be played, I have to have my fun taken away - even though my fun has nothing to do with their fun. I wouldn't ever want to wish that on anyone else. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't really understand it to be honest.

[AdamFreeman 224]

Booted up the game pc and in the garage/live feed the crowd is doing an annoying loop lasts about 7 seconds repatedly the same can barely hear the cars over it aswell also the pre sessiin cut scenses were blurry.

[ChironTheseus 48]

Awesome thank you so much for adding time to the interviews :) 

[BULLDOZOR 19]

Still the bug of 2nd and 1st driver of AI. Vettel being the second driver at ferrari despite winning the championship at suzuka with 10 straight win, what the fuck ? Same with Hamilton and Bottas, Hamilton being the 2nd driver... (I noticed that by the yellow mark on the t-cam, that means you are the 2d driver)

[AdamFreeman 224]

Game crashed on me for first time ever had a locked 60 fps but kept dipping to 20fps in china turn 4. Benchmarked and fps was fine but my career had the 20 fps dip.

As well as he crowd 7 second loop the audio is very stuttery on some cars.

Game ran much better with 1.04!

[Birkhoff 1]

I find it really ridiculous, the fact of having made the control medium traction similar to if it were not .... who plays with the pad like me, it will be almost impossible to play without complete control .... with the steering wheel you can understand when you're about to lose your car, with the pad no. It's a curse game, and it should be enjoyable by everyone ... if I wanted a simulator like you have to go with Iracing the nasty bitch

[Remialonso 0]

SC SC SC SC SC SC SC SC SC SC SC SC SC SC SC SC SC SC SC SC SC!!!!!!!!!

[fattier71 3]

Birkhoff said:

I find it really ridiculous, the fact of having made the control medium traction similar to if it were not .... who plays with the pad like me, it will be almost impossible to play without complete control .... with the steering wheel you can understand when you're about to lose your car, with the pad no. It's a curse game, and it should be enjoyable by everyone ... if I wanted a simulator like you have to go with Iracing the nasty ****

So you play with full traction,  everybody can enjoy it and let the other have more diffuculty.  Im playing with the pad too 

[Jockel90 1]

So I am a pad user drive on 103 AI with only anti lock brakes and medium TC. I felt the change immediately, but i got a hang on it fast.
I am at Abu Dhabi in my career right now and havent driven it in F1 2018 yet. There are a few low speed corners, but I dont know if i can handle every track so "easily" and especially in the rain it`s hard enough already but feels totally right with 1.04 medium TC. And than there is the thing with the tire temps, when i oversteer in two or three corners a bit I think it will be hard to nearly impossible to get the tire temps down again, while spinning out more often cause of the higher temps now.... It will be a loop that you cant escape unless chaning tyres at 20% wear or so.
Yes a slider would be helpfull and to all the comments just drive with full TC on, then i could also drive with full brake assist and dont have to worry about anything more ... its just ridiculous 

[fattier71 3]

Jockel90 said:

So I am a pad user drive on 103 AI with only anti lock brakes and medium TC. I felt the change immediately, but i got a hang on it fast.
I am at Abu Dhabi in my career right now and havent driven it in F1 2018 yet. There are a few low speed corners, but I dont know if i can handle every track so "easily" and especially in the rain it`s hard enough already but feels totally right with 1.04 medium TC. And than there is the thing with the tire temps, when i oversteer in two or three corners a bit I think it will be hard to nearly impossible to get the tire temps down again, while spinning out more often cause of the higher temps now.... It will be a loop that you cant escape unless chaning tyres at 20% wear or so.
Yes a slider would be helpfull and to all the comments just drive with full TC on, then i could also drive with full brake assist and dont have to worry about anything more ... its just ridiculous 

Thanks for the feedback . If you have overheating tyre problem,  i can advise you to reduce tyre pressure,  or ad down force,  or softer the suspension.  

[Jockel90 1]

fattier71 said:

Thanks for the feedback . If you have overheating tyre problem,  i can advise you to reduce tyre pressure,  or ad down force,  or softer the suspension.  

Thanks, I'll try it out. But i only notice it during the race (not in practice cause i'm not driving 0-15 laps in a row to test it on every track, but in season 2 i know my tracks and can adjust the settings/drving style) with softer tire compounds only on few tracks eg. monaco china singapore. when i "lean" to much in a corner with high speed. I know thats how its supoose to work and mostly i have to 

[FRACTURED 30]

Unplayable guys...

Diff settings, Ballast, what you running?



Advanced settings, what you got for throttle?
You can mess with linearity to have most of the heavy acceleration come at the end of the trigger which can help. There are plenty of things to try in setup too, as lot of the setups look like they could be massively different with changes to TCS Medium.

I've been trying to make the heating a little less bad, maybe there are things that can be changed to get that same feeling back for medium players. 

[Flakpanzon 2]

kubakw said:

What a stupid idea to change medium TC... You did it because a few people complained about it being too fast. Now you're gonna have a lot of us complain because you changed it after everybody got used to it

Don't complain then, get use to the new medium TC, it only takes 4 or 5 good laps, could you and everybody complaining at least try?

[CaptainAust 1]

zTAR1 said:

BiggyT said:

zTAR1 said:

acutally thats quite refreshing to hear that TC got rebalanced especially for online lobbies. online rambos thinking can compete to no assist drivers is horrible. they even knock you off the road if you are faster. keep up the work no assists should be the style to play this game, no matter if the majority is playing on the pad or not. you can also get good on the pad. if you dont have the time to learn this style to play without any assists then take the time to learn it for once and for all, this should not be that difficult to use the experience for upcoming or different games.

Or you could stop being an elitist and let us play our career modes the way we want? If you don't want assist users in your online lobby just turn assists off in the lobby settings.

Simple. 

im not saying how you should play your career, but in online lobbies. there are too many players complaining about the TC. in the last +20 of years in formula history there arent any electronical driving aids so there should not be any in the game. its like saying in BF 5 should be women with prostethic arms.

So why not get rid of every view but cockpit? Ive never seen Ricciardo race using the t cam.. Get rid of the automatic option too hey... The game was marketed as building ur career not racing in lobbies. I dont race online (for this game) but i would have thought the room you're racing in would have the option to remove / allow assists (gt sport you can customise every last detail of a room / lobby) and if it doesn't you should be campaigning for CM to change the way online play works. The thing you seem tobe missing is that people have already had a few weeks of getting used to med tc and what the change was from 2017. Adding a TC low option would have been better, you don't need a rebalancing or changing of anything that effects offline play to appease online, you just need stricter lobby rules. 

[steviejay69 1,100]

Kris92 said:

Does this patch fix the lag and massive frame rate drops when people leave and join multiplayer sessions, and does it also fix being kicked off the game all together at random times during a session (Xbox One)

No I got the FPS drop hard from 130 to 20 during a race this evening. Had worked great with up to 6 lag free players (all on 5 green or 4 green) and as soon as we got about 8 or 9 different cars in the lobby and it started lagging (and maybe retiring) I got the FPS drop. Will post video.

https://youtu.be/IhJvOiK3IGg

Definitely coincides with people leaving the session. I was host. Reencoded at 60FPS, should also edit the OBS settings to record overlays.

[peyt0n89 2]

I am so, SO glad I didn't buy this game lol.            

[Jules279 0]

I felt the new medium TC too, it's unplayable for me with pad. I tried to manage it, but even after 10-15 rounds it isn't like it was before. Whether the wheels are spinning and the rear is going crazy, or I'm to soft with the throttle and the opponent drives away. 

I'll try to go back to 1.04 (exactly 1.04.1 because of Phenom cpu) and hope, they will change ist back. If not, than I have to drive with full control or stuck at 1.04.1

[PolTTK 0]

Take this as a rant or whatever. Be my guest.

The no assists users ruined, again, the game for the others. The 1% asked for something and they were given it.
If you're worried because you're getting beaten by the medium TC users online, then you haven't mastered no assists. Because, as we all know, if you fully master no assists, you will always be faster than someone with assists. Take a look at the top of time trials. Most are using no traction control.
Please do not forget, 5 lappers and time trial are nowhere near enough points to determine if an assist is faster than no assists. You have to take into consideration tyre wear, tyre temperatures, overall consistency. All of which can be seen during a 50% or a 100% race.
In this years game (up until now), medium TC users (which are mostly pad users by the way)  had way more tyre wear, had an harder time to maintain tyre temperatures (as we can see from posts in this forum), were slower coming out of corners and bogged a bit on high speed corners (not that noticeable but it's there).
If you don't wanna get beaten by medium TC users, as others said, do a no assists lobby, just race in a no assists league or as kind no TC users have told, GIT GUD (I mean, actually master no assists!), there are plenty of options for both sides!
Full traction control is not enjoyable. There's absolutely no challenge with it. Medium TC was a challenge. Not as much as no TC but still a challenge.
Last year Codemasters did the right thing, they nerfed medium TC enough for no TC users to be faster but still in range to be beaten- Why? Because even though an assist can limit your pace, as no TC, it can be mastered. Yes, it takes less time and is less "hardcore" but the challenge is still there.

Will all this text actually do anything? No.