Patch Notes for 1.05 – DISCUSSION THREAD

[billyjex 0]

Thank you for reverting the traction control changes. MTC feels great to me on a pad this year. If changes are made, they should be gradual. Also, gameplay changes this early in release should be carefully done and not knee-jerk reactions; things such as tire temp troubles and MTC being faster may not be as much of an issue once players adapt to the new game.

[VPnorfolkblue 0]

billyjex said:

Thank you for reverting the traction control changes. MTC feels great to me on a pad this year. If changes are made, they should be gradual. Also, gameplay changes this early in release should be carefully done and not knee-jerk reactions; things such as tire temp troubles and MTC being faster may not be as much of an issue once players adapt to the new game.

To be fair, even if MTC is faster than no assists, it won't affect Esports or serious leagues in any way because they are all self regulated. The only problem would be ranked public lobbies, but the ranking system is a bit broken, public lobbies glitch out 90% of the time anyway, and everyone is corner cutting in ranked because it's got forced regular track limits. So I don't think that the traction control is multiplayers biggest problem at the moment xD

[Birkhoff 1]

fattier71 said:

Birkhoff said:

I find it really ridiculous, the fact of having made the control medium traction similar to if it were not .... who plays with the pad like me, it will be almost impossible to play without complete control .... with the steering wheel you can understand when you're about to lose your car, with the pad no. It's a curse game, and it should be enjoyable by everyone ... if I wanted a simulator like you have to go with Iracing the nasty ****

So you play with full traction,  everybody can enjoy it and let the other have more diffuculty.  Im playing with the pad too 

The alleged Pro, you can very well make a tournament without help, without having to enter the lobby with people who play for fun proving to have it along.

[VladimirJeger 35]

SirDriftalots said:

MatrimC said:

SirDriftalots said:

So the exploit should remain because you’ve become comfortable with said exploit, and lean on it heavily to extract your lap times?

You calling something an exploit doesn't make it so. Stop blaming the players playing the game Codemasters designed and released.

But it is an exploit. It is all benefit, no disadvantage, if it added weight to the car, or limited power while active, then I’d have no complaints but it allows people to apply the perfect amount of throttle for corner exit without any negative repercussions, therefore it’s an exploit.

i mean why aren’t all the people who used medium TC just activating full TC?

because it takes away engine power to control wheelspin, and by bogging down the engine, they are losing lap time, and at the end of the day they are upset that an exploit used to gain laptime without the normal necessary skill has been taken away from them.

An exploit? So i should just struggle with the game i paid for, so your highness can continue to dominate on his precious wheel and no TC? I don't give a damn about TT times, all i want is to play the game and enjoy...not struggle 

[OneSeventyOut 3]

VladimirJeger said:

SirDriftalots said:

MatrimC said:

SirDriftalots said:

So the exploit should remain because you’ve become comfortable with said exploit, and lean on it heavily to extract your lap times?

You calling something an exploit doesn't make it so. Stop blaming the players playing the game Codemasters designed and released.

But it is an exploit. It is all benefit, no disadvantage, if it added weight to the car, or limited power while active, then I’d have no complaints but it allows people to apply the perfect amount of throttle for corner exit without any negative repercussions, therefore it’s an exploit.

i mean why aren’t all the people who used medium TC just activating full TC?

because it takes away engine power to control wheelspin, and by bogging down the engine, they are losing lap time, and at the end of the day they are upset that an exploit used to gain laptime without the normal necessary skill has been taken away from them.

An exploit? So i should just struggle with the game i paid for, so your highness can continue to dominate on his precious wheel and no TC? I don't give a damn about TT times, all i want is to play the game and enjoy...not struggle 

If that's the case, why not go full traction control? I don't mind admitting I do, very enjoyable :)

[Tomkoon 0]

Game stopped working completly, not turning on at all after update. Anybody with the same issue?

[fattier71 3]

Dear @Faya 

Playing on PS4 pro, pads,  game version 1.05. Multiplayer, 50% race , 4 players at Paul Ricard.  No AI.  i was not having engine sound for the full race . Spectator sound and radio were ok. 

[AdamFreeman 224]

1.05 is an utter shambles should never have been released!

[LSKone 105]

Thanks for reverting back to the old TC, so I can once again enjoy the game like I want to.

[VladimirJeger 35]

XxHAMMERTIME95X said:

So you decided to revert the TC because people can’t deal with it just tells a lot that they are **** at the game and have no life and always winge that they can’t cope with it. 

They said for the time being, so until they find another solution 

[kubakw 31]

@Faya, thanks for a prompt reaction. I honestly think it was a good move to roll back. However, as medium TC seems to have an advantage according to some players, you might consider adding some weight for players who use it. I believe it is a solution that wouldn't really change the way the car handles, but would slow it down just a notch in order achieve a balance between medium TC and no TC.

Anyway, it would also be great if you consider keeping the original 1.05 TC setting in the game as "low". This way you won't make anybody angry, while you might even encourage some of us to try it some time. More choice is always better.

[FRACTURED 30]

It's amazing the difference in those who have been running round calling everyone else ********* all day. They're all so nice now. Fair play. Keep it up.

Hopefully they implement something to keep the feeling similar that doesn't force some to use MED TCS just because it's faster than NO TCS. 

[TrueRacerMic 20]

kubakw said:

@Faya, thanks for a prompt reaction. I honestly think it was a good move to roll back. However, as medium TC seems to have an advantage according to some players, you might consider adding some weight for players who use it. I believe it is a solution that wouldn't really change the way the car handles, but would slow it down just a notch in order achieve a balance between medium TC and no TC.

Anyway, it would also be great if you consider keeping the original 1.05 TC setting in the game as "low". This way you won't make anybody angry, while you might even encourage some of us to try it some time. More choice is always better.

Agreed, the thing that was asked was to make TC slower but they thought that they should make it harder for players in order to make it slower, just leave it the same for players but make it less effective that no TC

[LSKone 105]

kubakw said:

@Faya, thanks for a prompt reaction. I honestly think it was a good move to roll back. However, as medium TC seems to have an advantage according to some players, you might consider adding some weight for players who use it. I believe it is a solution that wouldn't really change the way the car handles, but would slow it down just a notch in order achieve a balance between medium TC and no TC.

Anyway, it would also be great if you consider keeping the original 1.05 TC setting in the game as "low". This way you won't make anybody angry, while you might even encourage some of us to try it some time. More choice is always better.

Yes please.

[VladimirJeger 35]

OneSeventyOut said:

VladimirJeger said:

SirDriftalots said:

MatrimC said:

SirDriftalots said:

So the exploit should remain because you’ve become comfortable with said exploit, and lean on it heavily to extract your lap times?

You calling something an exploit doesn't make it so. Stop blaming the players playing the game Codemasters designed and released.

But it is an exploit. It is all benefit, no disadvantage, if it added weight to the car, or limited power while active, then I’d have no complaints but it allows people to apply the perfect amount of throttle for corner exit without any negative repercussions, therefore it’s an exploit.

i mean why aren’t all the people who used medium TC just activating full TC?

because it takes away engine power to control wheelspin, and by bogging down the engine, they are losing lap time, and at the end of the day they are upset that an exploit used to gain laptime without the normal necessary skill has been taken away from them.

An exploit? So i should just struggle with the game i paid for, so your highness can continue to dominate on his precious wheel and no TC? I don't give a damn about TT times, all i want is to play the game and enjoy...not struggle 

If that's the case, why not go full traction control? I don't mind admitting I do, very enjoyable :)

Because i don't need full TC as i did not need it on F1 2017... the thing they tried to pull with medium TC today made it worse than 2016 Medium TC

[kubakw 31]

FRACTURED said:

It's amazing the difference in those who have been running round calling everyone else ********* all day. They're all so nice now. Fair play. Keep it up.

Hopefully they implement something to keep the feeling similar that doesn't force some to use MED TCS just because it's faster than NO TCS. 

We were just angry, that they changed something we liked and already got used to. I never said the matter shouldn't be adressed, but it just wasn't the way it should have been done. Now we can calmly talk this through, think of alternative solutions and come up with something everybody can accept. 

[AlexisVanWien 0]

Well, here's what that patch did for me so far:

.) Fixed the "fuel management practice program glitch"

.) Fixed the "half screen blank on cutscenes after video res changes" glitch

.) let me now have enough time to read the possible answers in an interview

   instead of random-choosing one for lack of time

.) no more stutter or crashes on instant replay

.) no more flipper-balling off that pesky orange cone in china's last corner

In short: It erased all the problems i noticed so far, and didnt add any new ones,

so bottom line: perfect!   Well, so far, at least... im not yet that far into the career...

Cheers ya'll!

[MaYGoD666 0]

Crash only multiplayer game... it's not possible...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKM4W_kADck

[SASColfer 56]

OneSeventyOut said:

VladimirJeger said:

SirDriftalots said:

MatrimC said:

SirDriftalots said:

So the exploit should remain because you’ve become comfortable with said exploit, and lean on it heavily to extract your lap times?

You calling something an exploit doesn't make it so. Stop blaming the players playing the game Codemasters designed and released.

But it is an exploit. It is all benefit, no disadvantage, if it added weight to the car, or limited power while active, then I’d have no complaints but it allows people to apply the eSeventyOut said:

VladimirJeger said:

SirDriftalots said:

MatrimC said:

SirDriftalots said:

So the exploit should remain because you’ve become comfortable with said exploit, and lean on it heavily to extract your lap times?

You calling something an exploit doesn't make it so. Stop blaming the players playing the game Codemasters designed and released.

But it is an exploit. It is all benefit, no disadvantage, if it added weight to the car, or limited power while active, then I’d have no complaints but it allows people to apply the perfect amount of throttle for corner exit without any negative repercussions, therefore it’s an exploit.

i mean why aren’t all the people who used medium TC just activating full TC?

because it takes away engine power to control wheelspin, and by bogging down the engine, they are losing lap time, and at the end of the day they are upset that an exploit used to gain laptime without the normal necessary skill has been taken away from them.

An exploit? So i should just struggle with the game i paid for, so your highness can continue to dominate on his precious wheel and no TC? I don't give a damn about TT times, all i want is to play the game and enjoy...not struggle 

If that's the case, why not go full traction control? I don't mind admitting I do, vert enjoyable :)

Faya said:

Hi all,

I've just updated the Patch notes thread, but I'll post it here again for good measure. The 1.05 PS4 patch is going live today. The Xbox One patch will be going up at a later date, which I will confirm closer to the time. Thanks everyone! 

Faya - Thank you and good move for reverting back the TC. As most of the medium users here, I'm happy to have it slower but not as wayward as yesterdays patch.

[LilBrown47 6]

If people would stop using their throttle and brake pedals, or buttons / triggers if played on the pad, as on / off switches for once, this ridiculous discussion wouldn't be an issue anymore as No Assists should always be faster than Assisted Driving for the sake of a healthy and functioning competition both off- and online.

People who only play career mode can and SHOULD adjust their difficulty accordingly instead of driving on 90 AI - 110 AI, such high difficulties are supposed to be driven by the best of the best and not some fellas that can't even drive in a straight line without assists.

1.05 was a good tweak to reassure us that E-Sports isn't simply a mediocre halfarsed effort, but it could be perfected by hypothetically making medium TC slightly more easy to drive as being on rails whilst decreasing initial power value to at least 10 - 20 km/h less than No Assists.

Full assists should stay untouched in its rail like handling, but the initial power value loss could hypothetically be decreased to at least 30 - 40 km/h so that Medium TC will be much faster than Full TC but both being much slower than No Assists.

Another solution is to revert to 1.04 to give back the speed, whilst making tyre wear and tyre temps much more prone to go crazy with Assists on compared to No Assists, so that Medium and Full TC drivers will have to be worried about overheating tyres and punctures on a much more frequent rate.

The real F1 cars don't have assists, so Codies who have got the obligation to mimic reality in a official and realistic manner should definitely make No Assists driving much more rewarding and more desirable.

My advice to those unhappy about having a less OP Assist:

Git Gud or Die Tryin'.

[xlexand 0]

Would be awesome to let use change the AI difficulty between each session again. Also back in F1 2017 you had more Audio settings that you could change for example the Engineer Voice, would be nice to be able to change it again.

[fifi25 0]

Did someone noticed any performance improvement during replay ? Can someone answer please ?

[AdamFreeman 224]

Can barely hear the cars on the tv feed :/  

[mixmax83 7]

the bug of the drive through penalty with sc and vsc has been fixed?

[squalles 40]

now you need back AI agression like before, and not like f1 2017 as in this patch