alonsofan46 0 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I know it's very early , but I am super excited for this race . It seems like it's been ages since the last title decider in Brasil 2012. I'm hoping Nico wins it , but I don't want him to win it by double points or by a mechanical failure for Hamilton. But knowing my luck in the last few title deciders , that's what will happen. Laps55Circuit length5.554 km (3.451 mi)Race length305.470 km (189.810 mi)Number of times held5First held2009Most wins (drivers) Sebastian Vettel (3)Most wins (constructors) Red Bull (3) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RevolvingPrawn 1 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 If Nico wins it due to double points, he won't be a WDC, he'll be an LDC. Least Deserving Champion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenColt 1 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 RevolvingPrawn said: If Nico wins it due to double points, he won't be a WDC, he'll be an LDC. Least Deserving Champion. It's in their family. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JensonBottom 1 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Which will come first. The race or Mclaren's 2015 driver lineup. :L Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenColt 1 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 JensonBottom said: Which will come first. The race or Mclaren's 2015 driver lineup. :L A tenner on the race. Maybe even the FIA-gala. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Platy 6 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I hope Nico wins due to double points because the butthurt caused by it could cure Ebola.I'd enjoy watching the forums, Twitter and Reddit meltdown. I'm sadistic like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenColt 1 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Platy said: I hope Nico wins due to double points because the butthurt caused by it could cure Ebola.I'd enjoy watching the forums, Twitter and Reddit meltdown. I'm sadistic like that. You pervert! ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Syn 2 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Honestly, if Nico wins this because of double points, all the more congrats to him. Entering the season EVERYONE understood the setup and points. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Liam12d 0 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I'm telling you now, if Rosberg wins the championship he'll be more hated than Vettel ever was. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VetteIfan 0 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 For the benefit of everyone:PermutationsNico wins if:- he wins and Lewis is no higher than 3rd- he comes 2nd and Lewis is no higher than 6th- he comes 3rd and Lewis is no higher than 7th- he comes 4th and Lewis is no higher than 9th- he comes 5th and Lewis is no higher than 10thLewis wins if:- he comes 2nd- he comes at least 5th with Nico no higher than 2nd- he comes at least 6th with Nico no higher than 3rd- he comes at least 8th with Nico no higher than 4th- he comes at least 9th with Nico no higher than 5thI know the second table is pretty much just a reverse of the first bit, but I done that just to make it clear. And, purely for interest sake, if there was no double points:Nico wins if: - he wins and Lewis is no higher than 7th- he comes 2nd and Lewis doesn't score;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Syn 2 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Liam12d said: I'm telling you now, if Rosberg wins the championship he'll be more hated than Vettel ever was. I think it depends on how the race unfolds. If Nico wins the race and Hamilton finishes 3rd, as long as it was a clean, hard-fought race I think it will be a popular win. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenColt 1 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 VetteIfan said: I'm trying to switch topic so people won't ask for a new avatar.I'm trying to switch topic so people won't ask for a new avatar.I'm trying to switch topic so people won't ask for a new avatar.I'm trying to switch topic so people won't ask for a new avatar.I'm trying to switch topic so people won't ask for a new avatar.I'm trying to switch topic so people won't ask for a new avatar.I'm trying to switch topic so people won't ask for a new avatar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
buttonfan 5 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 JensonBottom said: Which will come first. The race or Mclaren's 2015 driver lineup. :L Hopefully Seb's new avatar ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Liam12d 0 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 SynGamer said: Liam12d said: I'm telling you now, if Rosberg wins the championship he'll be more hated than Vettel ever was. I think it depends on how the race unfolds. If Nico wins the race and Hamilton finishes 3rd, as long as it was a clean, hard-fought race I think it will be a popular win. Yeah I guess, However if Lewis were to retire for whatever reason Nico won't be very popular. I just hope no problems for either car arise, I want a fair even battle that doesn't reduce the quality of what will be Hammy's WDC :p Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chadwick8505 0 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Really double points won't change entirely too much now if Hamilton retires in Abu Dhabi. Because if Hamilton retires and Rosberg finishes either first or second he would have won the WDC with or without double points. Granted double points does come into play for other reason. But regardless Lewis wouldn't have been WDC a today with or without double points. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenColt 1 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Chadwick8505 said: Really double points won't change entirely too much now if Hamilton retires in Abu Dhabi. Because if Hamilton retires and Rosberg finishes either first or second he would have won the WDC with or without double points. Granted double points does come into play for other reason. But regardless Lewis wouldn't have been WDC a today with or without double points. Bit then there's the fact that Lewis has had more unforced troubles in quali and the races aswell. 3 vs 2 DNF's, 2 vs 0 times when he had to start from the very back. No matter what happens, Lewis Hamilton is the only deserving WDC 2014 in my opinion ( I know that this counts for nothing). If you win 10 races in one season and come back from all the crap that happened to you, you have earned the title. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chadwick8505 0 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 GoldenColt said: Chadwick8505 said: Really double points won't change entirely too much now if Hamilton retires in Abu Dhabi. Because if Hamilton retires and Rosberg finishes either first or second he would have won the WDC with or without double points. Granted double points does come into play for other reason. But regardless Lewis wouldn't have been WDC a today with or without double points. Bit then there's the fact that Lewis has had more unforced troubles in quali and the races aswell. 3 vs 2 DNF's, 2 vs 0 times when he had to start from the very back. No matter what happens, Lewis Hamilton is the only deserving WDC 2014 in my opinion ( I know that this counts for nothing). If you win 10 races in one season and come back from all the crap that happened to you, you have earned the title. But that's racing. If you fall out of races due to the car and another driver capitalizes on those, these results are going to happen. That doesn't make Nico any less of a world champion at the end of the day. It doesn't matter who deserves it more because you don't score points on whether or not you deserved it in any sport... Ever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Liam12d 0 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Chadwick8505 said: GoldenColt said: Chadwick8505 said: Really double points won't change entirely too much now if Hamilton retires in Abu Dhabi. Because if Hamilton retires and Rosberg finishes either first or second he would have won the WDC with or without double points. Granted double points does come into play for other reason. But regardless Lewis wouldn't have been WDC a today with or without double points. Bit then there's the fact that Lewis has had more unforced troubles in quali and the races aswell. 3 vs 2 DNF's, 2 vs 0 times when he had to start from the very back. No matter what happens, Lewis Hamilton is the only deserving WDC 2014 in my opinion ( I know that this counts for nothing). If you win 10 races in one season and come back from all the crap that happened to you, you have earned the title. But that's racing. If you fall out of races due to the car and another driver capitalizes on those, these results are going to happen. That doesn't make Nico any less of a world champion at the end of the day. It doesn't matter who deserves it more because you don't score points on whether or not you deserved it in any sport... Ever. If you flat out don;t deserve it, that makes you any less of a world champion in my books. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenColt 1 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Chadwick8505 said: GoldenColt said: Chadwick8505 said: Really double points won't change entirely too much now if Hamilton retires in Abu Dhabi. Because if Hamilton retires and Rosberg finishes either first or second he would have won the WDC with or without double points. Granted double points does come into play for other reason. But regardless Lewis wouldn't have been WDC a today with or without double points. Bit then there's the fact that Lewis has had more unforced troubles in quali and the races aswell. 3 vs 2 DNF's, 2 vs 0 times when he had to start from the very back. No matter what happens, Lewis Hamilton is the only deserving WDC 2014 in my opinion ( I know that this counts for nothing). If you win 10 races in one season and come back from all the crap that happened to you, you have earned the title. But that's racing. If you fall out of races due to the car and another driver capitalizes on those, these results are going to happen. That doesn't make Nico any less of a world champion at the end of the day. It doesn't matter who deserves it more because you don't score points on whether or not you deserved it in any sport... Ever. We gonna have to agree to disagree. Imo, it makes Nico a much less deserving champion. I know it doesn't matter as for points tho, that's for sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jordieDAFC 0 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Looking forward to going out to Yas Marina, its a cracking facility Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hughesy 254 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 jordieDAFC said: Looking forward to going out to Yas Marina, its a cracking facility You going there again? You lucky sod! Shove some money my way please o:) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alonsofan46 0 Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 GoldenColt said: JensonBottom said: Which will come first. The race or Mclaren's 2015 driver lineup. :L A tenner on the race. Maybe even the FIA-gala. Knowing Mclaren Melbourne 2015 will come before they announce the driver line-up. :p Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chadwick8505 0 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 GoldenColt said: Chadwick8505 said: GoldenColt said: Chadwick8505 said: Really double points won't change entirely too much now if Hamilton retires in Abu Dhabi. Because if Hamilton retires and Rosberg finishes either first or second he would have won the WDC with or without double points. Granted double points does come into play for other reason. But regardless Lewis wouldn't have been WDC a today with or without double points. Bit then there's the fact that Lewis has had more unforced troubles in quali and the races aswell. 3 vs 2 DNF's, 2 vs 0 times when he had to start from the very back. No matter what happens, Lewis Hamilton is the only deserving WDC 2014 in my opinion ( I know that this counts for nothing). If you win 10 races in one season and come back from all the crap that happened to you, you have earned the title. But that's racing. If you fall out of races due to the car and another driver capitalizes on those, these results are going to happen. That doesn't make Nico any less of a world champion at the end of the day. It doesn't matter who deserves it more because you don't score points on whether or not you deserved it in any sport... Ever. We gonna have to agree to disagree. Imo, it makes Nico a much less deserving champion. I know it doesn't matter as for points tho, that's for sure. That's fine, I'm not trying to change your mind I respect you opinion, I just don't agree with it. Certainly Lewis deserves this championship more than Nico. But you have to admit that Nico has had one heck of a year as well. And if he is WDC I won't look at him as any less of a champion as anyone else who's won (double points or not). I don't think "less deserving" spoils/should spoil being WDC. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SASBlink 1 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Champion is champion!The fact is that too often the best man loses, its a part of the game. Sometimes you have to make your own luck by doing the right things, sometimes being lucky is a skill! You cant get it by sitting on your arse and hoping with your fingers crossed, you have to pursue it to get it, force that bit of luck to happen for you. rosberg did well to ensure he was in the right places to get that luck.I remember the massa/hamilton battle here for the championship, hamilton won by the slimmest of margins, last lap, last corner, very lucky... but he got that luck by being so determined to push till the very end, if he did indeed gave up and just hoped for the best then massa would of won the WDC....So, does that make hamilton a less deserving champion by getting that luck? Nah, not at all, he drive himself to the limit to get that luck and became WDC instead of Massa.Same goes here, it could be settled by the slimmest of margins again, Hamilton may be the better of them both but if rosberg wins it then hamilton fans cant complain, they cant praise one driver by winning by slimmest of margins then condemn another for the same thing.All teams, drivers, media and fans knew the rules for the last race, they cant use it as a excuse or as a scapegoat and complain if it goes against them, they had months to try to change it, if they really wanted too they could of done it.....Whoever wins is a deserving World Champion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Codemasters Staff Britpoint 4 Posted November 10, 2014 Codemasters Staff Share Posted November 10, 2014 Nico beating Lewis in Brazil was probably the best thing for the championship, because it makes a result only won by double points much less likely. Let's face it, the most likely outcome for not getting a Mercedes 1-2 is if one of them retires. The chances of Nico winning and Lewis finishing 3rd or lower are pretty slim. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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