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tbtstt said:
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AIPacino said:
I'm getting concerned with the late 90s/early 2000s group not getting any changes or news.
Yeah, I'd love to see more cars from the 2000's in game but, for whatever reason, this seems to a difficult era to acquire cars from. 


This game truly deserves to have the 97/98 Subaru Impreza(S1Evo22B etc)

:D

The S4 or S5 Impreza WRC is top of my car wish list. 



 <3 

(The S11 and S12b would also be awesome additions as well)
Best looking Subaru Impreza of all time, period. I'd give anything to have this car in DR 2.0

I can't get tired listening the Turbo whistling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS41Ymal0L0

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gfRally said:
tbtstt said:
bogani said:
  tbtstt said:
AIPacino said:
I'm getting concerned with the late 90s/early 2000s group not getting any changes or news.
Yeah, I'd love to see more cars from the 2000's in game but, for whatever reason, this seems to a difficult era to acquire cars from. 


This game truly deserves to have the 97/98 Subaru Impreza(S1Evo22B etc)

:D

The S4 or S5 Impreza WRC is top of my car wish list. 



 <3 

(The S11 and S12b would also be awesome additions as well)

I’ve Always been confused why this wasn’t somhow fit into the game - in game are there cars in the same class?  Ford escort?

Based on the car selection in the previous games I can see how this could be awkward to fit into the game.

If the DiRT 4 car classes are coming back then the "Modern Rally Up to 2000cc" would be the best home for it, however the car would be outclassed by everything else in the class*. 

(* though it looks the best so I would still use it)

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 tbtstt said:
gfRally said:
tbtstt said:
bogani said:
  tbtstt said:
AIPacino said:
I'm getting concerned with the late 90s/early 2000s group not getting any changes or news.
Yeah, I'd love to see more cars from the 2000's in game but, for whatever reason, this seems to a difficult era to acquire cars from. 


This game truly deserves to have the 97/98 Subaru Impreza(S1Evo22B etc)

:D

The S4 or S5 Impreza WRC is top of my car wish list. 

 <3 

(The S11 and S12b would also be awesome additions as well)

I’ve Always been confused why this wasn’t somhow fit into the game - in game are there cars in the same class?  Ford escort?

Based on the car selection in the previous games I can see how this could be awkward to fit into the game.

If the DiRT 4 car classes are coming back then the "Modern Rally Up to 2000cc" would be the best home for it, however the car would be outclassed by everything else in the class*. 

(* though it looks the best so I would still use it)

I love the car too, but it doesn't fit into the way the classes have been at all. I keep meaning to write a thread about car classes.....

This might be sacrilege here, but I wouldn't be a fan of a 'Colin pack' personally, especially if cars were being wedged in whilst messing with the class structure. To be honest, I'd rather have no cars from this era (and a different class beefed up instead) than another 2001 / 2007 split with 66% of it being Ford Focuses.

I think it's entirely possible they're going to have to forgo "WRC" class cars completely in the new title, just like most circuit racers skip F1 or make their own fantasy versions. However, I'm hopeful that they can label cars built prior to 2011 as class "A8" still.

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They can split the Up to 2000cc in 2: 1998-2002, and the 2008 class if they decide to put their cars (Focus '08, C4 and Impreza '08). Pretty simple.
Then you have the R5 class on its own.

This way you could fit all the second golden era cars in the first class (Lancer Evo VI (or 6.5), Impreza 2000, Impreza 2001, Corolla, Focus, 206, Xsara, SEAT Cordoba, Skoda Octavia and Hyundai Accent).
Then you also have the slighty older cars from Group A which you can mix in if Codemasters allow us to set a multi-class event. Pretty simple and straightforward.

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They can split the Up to 2000cc in 2: 1998-2002, and the 2008 class if they decide to put their cars (Focus '08, C4 and Impreza '08). Pretty simple.
Then you have the R5 class on its own.

This way you could fit all the second golden era cars in the first class (Lancer Evo VI (or 6.5), Impreza 2000, Impreza 2001, Corolla, Focus, 206, Xsara, SEAT Cordoba, Skoda Octavia and Hyundai Accent).
Then you also have the slighty older cars from Group A which you can mix in if Codemasters allow us to set a multi-class event. Pretty simple and straightforward.
Yeah, splitting the "Up to 2000cc" class would be the way to go if they could get enough cars to justify it. 

In an ideal world I would take the Evo 6 from Group A class and have a "late 90's/00 
Up to 2000cc" class with at least the S5 Impreza and Evo in it. Add an older Evo into Group A and then additional early WRCars (like the Peugeot 206) into "late 90's/'00 Up to 2000cc" if possible.

'01 Focus and S7 Impreza into a "'01 - '06 Up to 2000cc" class and then Citroen C4 and Focus into "07 Onwards Up to 2000cc". Would prefer to see the S12b (2007) Impreza WRC in game as the 2008 car was a bit of a dog, but any additional WRCars would be welcome!

When setting up custom events (off or online) the option to include cars from all three "Up to 2000cc" classes could be included to give the mix of entrants you currently see on National events...

...of course all of the above does require the addition of at least several new cars and I appreciate that may require resources and/or licensing that may not be available! 

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That's what DLCs are there for if they can't (and most probably won't) make that at launch. DiRT Rally always felt a bit short, not just due to 6 events only, but also because that golden era class was never fully represented. Despite of welcoming the 1997-1999 Subaru, the Focus 2001 and Subaru 2001 are the ones that need to be present and they shouldn't change their mind about those 2, because despite of the class not being fully represented in the other games it doesn't mean the ones that were there are wrong nor should they be replaced by others, others need to add to them.

The inclusion of the Lancer Evo VI in DiRT4 helped a bit, but the fact that the game itself wouldn't let us race the Evo VI against the Focus and the Impreza 2001 was a disappointment, not to mention the crap handling on all of those cars. Eitherway, if DR2.0 makes it with those 3 cars at launch it's good already, but it would be great to have at least one more from that class and that certainly would be the Peugeot 206. I don't mind the Xsara, but the Xsara was a little bit later, even tho it still competed in 2002 after the facelift. But it's not of the same generation as the others, even the handling and driving style of the car is totally different and started going for the smooth-straight line driving style that would follow on the coming years with the new Focus and C4.

It would be very refreshing to have the Colin McRae Rally 2.0 main vehicle class back again in full strength, and if other studios can license those, then there's no reason why Codemasters can't license them for paid DLC because that's mostly a money issue. But then money wouldn't be an issue because these cars keep getting requested game after game and when they come up as paid DLC it'll sell out. Let's all keep in mind that this game is being sold at 55€ as a base, so there's room for investment here. DiRT Rally 1 was sold for way less since EA, despite selling over a million copies, and turned out to be a very solid game where people would just throw money for DLC. Let's hope DiRT Rally 2.0 takes it from where DiRT Rally 1 left.

Anyway when I said 08 Impreza, i had the last sedan version in mind and not the hatchback, so yeah the 2007. A little error in there lol.

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Knowing how licensing stands, at the moment, I wouldn't hold your breath for any car with the word 'WRC' in its name.

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Knowing how licensing stands, at the moment, I wouldn't hold your breath for any car with the word 'WRC' in its name.


Easy peezy, make it VVRC, done, no licensing problems at all 

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gfRally said:
Knowing how licensing stands, at the moment, I wouldn't hold your breath for any car with the word 'WRC' in its name.


Easy peezy, make it VVRC, done, no licensing problems at all 
Just calling it 'Rally' like they've done in past games isn't cutting it either. So, I think they might realize it's not worth the effort and the legal hailstones.

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It wasn't included due to making more sense to spend the licensing money elsewhere instead of having 2(3?) Subarus in essentially the same class, instead of diversifying it.

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It wasn't included due to making more sense to spend the licensing money elsewhere instead of having 2(3?) Subarus in essentially the same class, instead of diversifying it.
I think we just need to face facts and accept that a standalone Subaru class is the way to go. 

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It wasn't included due to making more sense to spend the licensing money elsewhere instead of having 2(3?) Subarus in essentially the same class, instead of diversifying it.
I think we just need to face facts and accept that a standalone Subaru class is the way to go. 
Or just throw them in a class where they are close enough to fit. They don't have to be the absolutely most competitive in that class, but if they are fun to drive people will still choose it over the others. I get we want to try and keep this game very authentic with really competitive classes composed of cars from very specific eras, but then you also have to give up other things - like getting all of the cool iterations of a car. If you can sacrifice a bit of the authenticity in classes to get better variety for people, it is worth it. Sure as hell beats having 2 dozen classes of 2-3 cars each just so one car isn't too much slower than the others. Toss the 01's with the 07's, hell even include the late 90's if it gives you the variety we want.

I'm in leagues where you have a Kadett and Stratos out running some of the Group A's. Sure, at the absolute top 0.1% of the community it won't keep up, but for the vast majority of players it literally makes no difference. A fast driver will post fast times, so let there be some variation in the classes if we can get more fun cars!

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You know what car I would like to see but we're probably never going to get?

This tragic little guy. I have a bit of a soft spot for not successful rally cars 

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There is a swift in the new zealand ap4 class. Also a few other cool ones including an a3 audi and a mazda 3.
Agree with you, AP4, R4 cars would be a really nice addition and there is a wide variety of brands in that Codemasters can get the licence.

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-Hyundai i20 AP4
-Audi S1 AP4
-Toyota Yaris AP4
-Holden Barina AP4
-Mazda 2 AP4
-Renault Clio N5
-Suzuki Swift N5
-Toyota Etios R4
-Nissan Micra R4
.... And the list goes on lol

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I grew up playing playing Colin Mcrae rally 2.0, more late 90s/early 2000s cars would help keeping my nostalgia in check  :D.

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-Hyundai i20 AP4
-Audi S1 AP4
-Toyota Yaris AP4
-Holden Barina AP4
-Mazda 2 AP4
-Renault Clio N5
-Suzuki Swift N5
-Toyota Etios R4
-Nissan Micra R4
.... And the list goes on lol
guess I was out on some of the models haha

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As Codemasters looks to have a good relationship with Chevrolet, (licensed the camaro for dirt and some cars in Grid saga) a good suggestion for NR4/R4 class would be the Chevrolet Onix MR (AP4) 

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I'd rather they just add fictional R5 cars than AP4/N4 cars TBH; not that there's a shortage of real R5s out there.

The Group N cars (Impreza/Lancer) I'm happy with, but this sub-class seems a little redundant when we're not needing to save running costs here.

Whilst we're on the subject though, cool vid of the Clio N5:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLBYHvXJcA8

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It's a shame the rally version of my road car (Aveo in UK, Sonic in US) was only made up for a Transformers film:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kegqLWvl7WM

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Given the licensing issues, I don't understand why they don't just create a fictional modern class of cars. Something similar to GT Sport which has created modern interpretations of Group B cars. Car list: https://www.kudosprime.com/gts/carlist.php?cartype=9

There are nine modern cars + the odd-man-out 1987 Audi Quattro S1 Pikes Peak. Too bad rally sucks in GTS.

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Because people would probably complain that they weren't real cars. I would welcome that tho. They just need to balance it and ground it somewhat in reality. Like making fictional rally versions of real road cars

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Well it sounds like they've done that, at least with the Camaro if it comes in the RGT class. I believe it was insinuated that there'd be at least another car in the RGT class too.

That Chevrolet Aveo I've not seen before, that was just used in a movie?

As far as R5s and competition go, I feel there are plenty of real ones which can hopefully be licenced (VW, Skoda, Ford, Peugeot, Citroen, Hyundai and maybe Mitsubishi or Proton), but any of these would be suitable for a semi-fictional version: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-segment#European_sales_figures (I've been hoping Renault would make an R5 for ages)

Anyway, going off topic a little there. Realistically, we're looking at 50-55 cars at launch and a large proportion of those will be RX machinery, so I don't imagine there will be many new ones to show. With 10 more to follow in DLC after, they'll have to hold some back too.

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Well it sounds like they've done that, at least with the Camaro if it comes in the RGT class. I believe it was insinuated that there'd be at least another car in the RGT class too.

That Chevrolet Aveo I've not seen before, that was just used in a movie?

As far as R5s and competition go, I feel there are plenty of real ones which can hopefully be licenced (VW, Skoda, Ford, Peugeot, Citroen, Hyundai and maybe Mitsubishi or Proton), but any of these would be suitable for a semi-fictional version: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-segment#European_sales_figures (I've been hoping Renault would make an R5 for ages)

Anyway, going off topic a little there. Realistically, we're looking at 50-55 cars at launch and a large proportion of those will be RX machinery, so I don't imagine there will be many new ones to show. With 10 more to follow in DLC after, they'll have to hold some back too.
Not even half of these can be RX models. Winning cars from WorldRX barely make it to 10 in the list (those are only 7). If we add the VW Beetle and Renault Mégane, the total sums up to 9 Super RX cars.

Thus we can expect a lot of Rally cars. I'm hoping they'd add R1~R3 models too, besides R4, and R5 as promised. CM shouldn't spoil much more than what they've already shown us, but who knows?

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