The Formula 1 Stuff Thread

[Lukedfrt 91]

I've always disliked how much Hamilton goes on about how hard he's had to work to get into F1, we get the message Lewis.

Pretty sure Alonso & Vettel started with nothing, and i wouldn't be surprised if Hulkenburg, Grosjean and others didn't have a luxurious life.

[VetteIfan 0]

Bit of a confusing theory there from Lewis. I personally don't really see how where they come from affects their personal hunger, but hey ho. 

These supposed "mind games" are a bit over exaggerated if you ask me. I think both of them are too intelligent and professional to let it affect them. 

[RevolvingPrawn 1]

Lewis came from the ghetto. #Thug4Life 

[sjsharp2010 225]

Lukedfrt said:

I've always disliked how much Hamilton goes on about how hard he's had to work to get into F1, we get the message Lewis.

Pretty sure Alonso & Vettel started with nothing, and i wouldn't be surprised if Hulkenburg, Grosjean and others didn't have a luxurious life.

it's just playing mind games with Rosberg he knows Nico is his main threat for the title this year not Alonso or Vettel it's just his way of shooting one accros the bows just like a lot of Football managers do to each other even I do sometimes on my Football manager games

[MBKF1 91]

Flippin boring GP2 race just then...

[Lukedfrt 91]

sjsharp2010 said:

Lukedfrt said:

I've always disliked how much Hamilton goes on about how hard he's had to work to get into F1, we get the message Lewis.

Pretty sure Alonso & Vettel started with nothing, and i wouldn't be surprised if Hulkenburg, Grosjean and others didn't have a luxurious life.

it's just playing mind games with Rosberg he knows Nico is his main threat for the title this year not Alonso or Vettel it's just his way of shooting one accros the bows just like a lot of Football managers do to each other even I do sometimes on my Football manager games

I don't just mean this though. He's banged on about his tough life throughout his career. 

[GoldenColt 1]

Lukedfrt said:

sjsharp2010 said:

Lukedfrt said:

I've always disliked how much Hamilton goes on about how hard he's had to work to get into F1, we get the message Lewis.

Pretty sure Alonso & Vettel started with nothing, and i wouldn't be surprised if Hulkenburg, Grosjean and others didn't have a luxurious life.

it's just playing mind games with Rosberg he knows Nico is his main threat for the title this year not Alonso or Vettel it's just his way of shooting one accros the bows just like a lot of Football managers do to each other even I do sometimes on my Football manager games

I don't just mean this though. He's banged on about his tough life throughout his career. 

I don't see the problem with people who managed to come thus far despite a difficult childhood mentioning this every now and then. This usually offends those who didn't make anything out of their opportunities, even if they had more of them.

[Lukedfrt 91]

GoldenColt said:

Lukedfrt said:

sjsharp2010 said:

Lukedfrt said:

I've always disliked how much Hamilton goes on about how hard he's had to work to get into F1, we get the message Lewis.

Pretty sure Alonso & Vettel started with nothing, and i wouldn't be surprised if Hulkenburg, Grosjean and others didn't have a luxurious life.

it's just playing mind games with Rosberg he knows Nico is his main threat for the title this year not Alonso or Vettel it's just his way of shooting one accros the bows just like a lot of Football managers do to each other even I do sometimes on my Football manager games

I don't just mean this though. He's banged on about his tough life throughout his career. 

I don't see the problem with people who managed to come thus far despite a difficult childhood mentioning this every now and then. This usually offends those who didn't make anything out of their opportunities, even if they had more of them.

Hamilton mentions it so much more than anyone else though, as i've said Alonso and Vettel haven't had it easy but i can't really recall them going on about it every few weeks. Whereas Hamilton seems to revel in the whole he did everything the hard way story.

I'm reading his book My Story at the moment, and all it's all about how hard he's had it in life. It's like he thinks he's the only driver on the grid who's worked hard.

[GoldenColt 1]

I generally don't hear Fernando or Seb talk about their childhood that much, so no surprise they don't mention that.

At the end of the day, this is a non-issue imo. Let him mention his difficulties every now and then and deal with it is all I can suggest.

I also refuse to believe he would publish a book only consisting of his difficulties in early life. Sounds like you're exaggerating a bit, but I stand corrected on that.

Anyway, I wonder if we would have these kind of debates if it was let's say Hülkenberg mentioning his difficulties compared to Perez' early years. Probably not.

Btw, did anyone mention Rosberg's arrogance after Malaysia and Bahrain in this forum, when he claimed he would win the next two races (and failed to do so)? No?

Did anyone mention Alonso being a whiny b*tch for asking Ferrari to worship him as much as other teams do a few days ago? No?

I wonder why that is.

But when Lewis says he is hungrier for success due to his early life it's worth being discussed.

[alonsofan46 0]

GoldenColt said:

I generally don't hear Fernando or Seb talk about their childhood that much, so no surprise they don't mention that.

At the end of the day, this is a non-issue imo. Let him mention his difficulties every now and then and deal with it is all I can suggest.

I also refuse to believe he would publish a book only consisting of his difficulties in early life. Sounds like you're exaggerating a bit, but I stand corrected on that.

Anyway, I wonder if we would have these kind of debates if it was let's say Hülkenberg mentioning his difficulties compared to Perez' early years. Probably not.

Btw, did anyone mention Rosberg's arrogance after Malaysia and Bahrain in this forum, when he claimed he would win the next two races (and failed to do so)? No?

Did anyone mention Alonso being a whiny b*tch for asking Ferrari to worship him as much as other teams do a few days ago? No?

I wonder why that is.

But when Lewis says he is hungrier for success due to his early life it's worth being discussed.

Perez is from Mexico. Hulkenberg can't exactly complain much , can he.

[KRTheIceman 0]

SILVERARR0WS said:

GoldenColt said:

I generally don't hear Fernando or Seb talk about their childhood that much, so no surprise they don't mention that.

At the end of the day, this is a non-issue imo. Let him mention his difficulties every now and then and deal with it is all I can suggest.

I also refuse to believe he would publish a book only consisting of his difficulties in early life. Sounds like you're exaggerating a bit, but I stand corrected on that.

Anyway, I wonder if we would have these kind of debates if it was let's say Hülkenberg mentioning his difficulties compared to Perez' early years. Probably not.

Btw, did anyone mention Rosberg's arrogance after Malaysia and Bahrain in this forum, when he claimed he would win the next two races (and failed to do so)? No?

Did anyone mention Alonso being a whiny b*tch for asking Ferrari to worship him as much as other teams do a few days ago? No?

I wonder why that is.

But when Lewis says he is hungrier for success due to his early life it's worth being discussed.

Perez is from Mexico. Hulkenberg can't exactly complain much , can he.

You do realise Perez is being funded by Mexican oil tycoons ever since the start?

[alonsofan46 0]

KRTheIceman said:

SILVERARR0WS said:

GoldenColt said:

I generally don't hear Fernando or Seb talk about their childhood that much, so no surprise they don't mention that.

At the end of the day, this is a non-issue imo. Let him mention his difficulties every now and then and deal with it is all I can suggest.

I also refuse to believe he would publish a book only consisting of his difficulties in early life. Sounds like you're exaggerating a bit, but I stand corrected on that.

Anyway, I wonder if we would have these kind of debates if it was let's say Hülkenberg mentioning his difficulties compared to Perez' early years. Probably not.

Btw, did anyone mention Rosberg's arrogance after Malaysia and Bahrain in this forum, when he claimed he would win the next two races (and failed to do so)? No?

Did anyone mention Alonso being a whiny b*tch for asking Ferrari to worship him as much as other teams do a few days ago? No?

I wonder why that is.

But when Lewis says he is hungrier for success due to his early life it's worth being discussed.

Perez is from Mexico. Hulkenberg can't exactly complain much , can he.

You do realise Perez is being funded by Mexican oil tycoons ever since the start?

I know , I was only joking. (Although it was a bad one)

[VetteIfan 0]

GoldenColt said:

Lukedfrt said:

I don't just mean this though. He's banged on about his tough life throughout his career. 

I don't see the problem with people who managed to come thus far despite a difficult childhood mentioning this every now and then. This usually offends those who didn't make anything out of their opportunities, even if they had more of them.

Growing up in Stevenage is hardly a "difficult childhood". 

[f1since08 60]

VetteIfan said:

GoldenColt said:

Lukedfrt said:

I don't just mean this though. He's banged on about his tough life throughout his career. 

I don't see the problem with people who managed to come thus far despite a difficult childhood mentioning this every now and then. This usually offends those who didn't make anything out of their opportunities, even if they had more of them.

Growing up in Stevenage is hardly a "difficult childhood". 

When your dad works two jobs and you live on his sofa it is.

[GoldenColt 1]

As if the location is the only ingredient for a difficult childhood...

But ok, maybe "difficult childhood" is too harsh. Let's just agree on Lewis reaching the Top under much more difficult circumstances than Mr. Rosberg jr.

Btw, same goes for Vettel, Alonso, Schumi, etc...

[alonsofan46 0]

GoldenColt said:

As if the location is the only ingredient for a difficult childhood...

But ok, maybe "difficult childhood" is too harsh. Let's just agree on Lewis reaching the Top under much more difficult circumstances than Mr. Rosberg jr.

Btw, same goes for Vettel, Alonso, Schumi, etc...

Lewis has had Mclaren's backing pretty much the whole way. Not exactly much harder than ''Mr.Rosberg Jr''

[JensonBottom 1]

Either way, people are too keen to point fingers at Hamilton when he says something in a press conference that could be perceived to be wrong whereas when Rosberg says that he's faster than Hamilton no one finds anything arrogant about that.

[KRTheIceman 0]

JensonBottom said:

Either way, people are too keen to point fingers at Hamilton when he says something in a press conference that could be perceived to be wrong whereas when Rosberg says that he's faster than Hamilton no one finds anything arrogant about that.

That's because everyone assumes he has a good sense of humour.

[GoldenColt 1]

SILVERARR0WS said:

GoldenColt said:

As if the location is the only ingredient for a difficult childhood...

But ok, maybe "difficult childhood" is too harsh. Let's just agree on Lewis reaching the Top under much more difficult circumstances than Mr. Rosberg jr.

Btw, same goes for Vettel, Alonso, Schumi, etc...

Lewis has had Mclaren's backing pretty much the whole way. Not exactly much harder than ''Mr.Rosberg Jr''

McLaren backing = pay for Lewis to have the opportunity to take part in lower class formulas. Means he still needs to perform well to be promoted to the next level.

Rosberg Sr. backing = buy a Formula BMW team and make sure your son's gonna be their driver, regardless of how he performed in the lower classes

No doubt he's in F1 because of his talent, but a few doors on the way have been opened easier for him than for other drivers. Apart from that, Lewis didn't just get McLaren's backing because of being Lewis Hamilton, but because he won the british karting championship before that.

Nico Rosberg got his Formula BMW-seat because of being Keke's son. Just as an example.

[alonsofan46 0]

GoldenColt said:

SILVERARR0WS said:

GoldenColt said:

As if the location is the only ingredient for a difficult childhood...

But ok, maybe "difficult childhood" is too harsh. Let's just agree on Lewis reaching the Top under much more difficult circumstances than Mr. Rosberg jr.

Btw, same goes for Vettel, Alonso, Schumi, etc...

Lewis has had Mclaren's backing pretty much the whole way. Not exactly much harder than ''Mr.Rosberg Jr''

McLaren backing = pay for Lewis to have the opportunity to take part in lower class formulas. Means he still needs to perform well to be promoted to the next level.

Rosberg Sr. backing = buy a Formula BMW team and make sure your son's gonna be their driver, regardless of how he performed in the lower classes

No doubt he's in F1 because of his talent, but a few doors on the way have been opened easier for him than for other drivers. Apart from that, Lewis didn't just get McLaren's backing because of being Lewis Hamilton, but because he won the british karting championship before that.

Nico Rosberg got his Formula BMW-seat because of being Keke's son. Just as an example.

Yes , but it get's to a stage where you can't afford to buy a whole team. Williams didn't sign him because of being Nico Rosberg... anyway , why are we even discussing this , there's way more interesting stuff to talk about.

[GoldenColt 1]

We are discussing it because Hamilton said it. If it was any other driver, there most probably wouldn't be any debate.

[Mexicola 10]

GoldenColt said:

We are discussing it because Hamilton said it. If it was any other driver, there most probably wouldn't be any debate.

That's a totally ridiculous thing to say and on the farthest left end of the truthiness spectrum as possible.

[AMSKRR 3]

It was a stupid comment to make IMO. I mean surely Rosberg is just as keen to emulate his fathers success as Hamilton is to win a 2nd WDC? 

[yugin96 0]

If you ever needed a reason to like Fernando Alonso:

[GoldenColt 1]

Niki Lauda even said he's thankful he didn't get to meet Bieber and that he can't stand him (RTL). :D