Jiggy Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Not to be that guy, but at the other end of the coin, Lewis' 2008-title win did happened in a season where Kubica nearly won it in a BMW. Nothing against anyone, but Kubica was beyond good that season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenColt Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Yep, he did a great job dragging that BMW to 4th place at the end. Especially given that BMW abandoned a huge upgrade somewhere around the middle of the season to focus on building a championship winning car for 2009 early on which meant the development on their 2008 car stopped somewhere around July. Didn't turn out well for 2009 though. Btw, I was rooting for BMW a bit in 2007 and 2008, they were such a cool team and it was nice to see them getting closer and closer to the nearly invincible Ferraris and McLarens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggy Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Too bad they rage quit'd over one bad season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenColt Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I hope they will return one day. But can't see it happening too soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator f1since08 Posted May 26, 2016 Author Moderator Share Posted May 26, 2016 Latest driver rumours for 2017:Mercedes: Hamilton and RosbergFerrari: Vettel and RaikkonenRed Bull: Ricciardo and VerstappenWilliams: Button and BottasForce India: Hulkenberg and PerezRenault: Magnussen and Palmer/SainzToro Rosso: Gasly and Sainz/KvyatSauber: £££ and €€€McLaren: Alonso and VandoorneManor: Wehrlein and $$$Haas: Grosjean and Gutierrez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator MBKF1 Posted May 26, 2016 Moderator Share Posted May 26, 2016 Ah, another perfect opportunity to shamelessly promote my blog! I wrote a piece last week about my take on the 2017 silly season, so you can read all my thoughts on it here. https://droptheclutch.wordpress.com/2016/05/19/f12017sillyseason/In short though, this is what I think / hope will happen.MERCEDES | Lewis HAMILTON | Nico ROSBERGFERRARI | Sebastian VETTEL | Kimi RAIKKONENRED BULL | Daniel RICCIARDO | Max VERSTAPPENWILLIAMS | Valtteri BOTTAS | Alex LYNNTORO ROSSO | Carlos SAINZ | Pierre GASLYMcLAREN | Fernando ALONSO | Stoffel VANDOORNEFORCE INDIA | Sergio PEREZ | Nico HULKENBERGHAAS | Romain GROSJEAN | Esteban GUTIERREZRENAULT | Kevin MAGNUSSEN | Daniil KVYATSAUBER | Felipe NASR | Marcus ERICSSONMANOR | Pascal WEHRLEIN | Esteban OCON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolvingPrawn Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Here's my wishful thinking!MERCEDES | Lewis HAMILTON | Fernando ALONSOFERRARI | Sebastian VETTEL | Nico ROSBERGRED BULL | Daniel RICCIARDO | Max VERSTAPPENWILLIAMS | Valtteri BOTTAS | Daniil KVYATTORO ROSSO | Carlos SAINZ | Pierre GASLYMcLAREN | Jenson BUTTON | Stoffel VANDOORNEFORCE INDIA | Sergio PEREZ | Nico HULKENBERGHAAS | Romain GROSJEAN | Alexander ROSSIRENAULT | Kevin MAGNUSSEN | Jolyon PALMERSAUBER | Dean STONEMAN | Marcus ERICSSONMANOR | Pascal WEHRLEIN | Esteban OCON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator f1since08 Posted May 26, 2016 Author Moderator Share Posted May 26, 2016 RevolvingPrawn said: Here's my wishful thinking!MERCEDES | Lewis HAMILTON | Fernando ALONSOFERRARI | Sebastian VETTEL | Nico ROSBERGRED BULL | Daniel RICCIARDO | Max VERSTAPPENWILLIAMS | Valtteri BOTTAS | Daniil KVYATTORO ROSSO | Carlos SAINZ | Pierre GASLYMcLAREN | Jenson BUTTON | Stoffel VANDOORNEFORCE INDIA | Sergio PEREZ | Nico HULKENBERGHAAS | Romain GROSJEAN | Alexander ROSSIRENAULT | Kevin MAGNUSSEN | Jolyon PALMERSAUBER | Dean STONEMAN | Marcus ERICSSONMANOR | Pascal WEHRLEIN | Esteban OCON I'd love to see Rossi in a Haas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liaveil Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Only way I can see Rosberg moving to Ferrari is if he loses out to Hamilton again and that's assuming Ferrari don't keep Raikkonen on. He's been closer to Vettel this season so far so if he keeps it up I don't see them changing. I don't think Alonso would risk moving right before the reg changes anyway and I'd be surprised if Mclaren didn't keep Button as well for the first season with the new regs. But Vandoorne shouldn't be without a drive. Maybe Williams if Button doesn't or even Renault if either Magnussen or Palmer get the boot. (Wouldn't that be annoying for Magnussen if he was left without a drive because of Mclaren again even after leaving them!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syn Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I just want to see Alonso in a competitive ride before he retires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadwick8505 Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Yeah I don't think there's gonna be much of a shake up drive wise next year. Verstappen obviously, but we all knew that. Maybe something happens with Massa, Button, Raikkonen, or Alonso but I doubt much. I doubt Ferrari will drop Kimi, he's been doing pretty well so far. I don't think dropping Massa for Button is all the much of an improvement. While yes Button is better, but why swap a (probably) soon to retire driver for another (probably) soon to retire driver? And Merc isn't going to drop either of their drivers, even for Alonso. If either drive decides to leave, that's a different story. But why would they leave? They have the best car and even Rosberg knows he won't win without it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Are GP2 racing at Baku? Those poor old building are going to get ruined :joy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VetteIfan Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 There were some mild rumours last week that Rosberg had been in talks with Ferrari, but it's a nothing story really. Seems like most of you guys have already sacked Massa, I think he'll stay on because Williams won't build up the courage to do so. Even though they'll know there are better options out there. The biggest story is going to be McLaren. There's no way they can leave Vandoorne on the sidelines another year without expecting him to join another team. Therefore I think it will be Button's final year. Oh, and Alonso's never going to win another race again. In fact he'll be lucky to make it to the podium. I'm afraid that's the reality as far as Fernando is concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenColt Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 VetteIfan said: There were some mild rumours last week that Rosberg had been in talks with Ferrari, but it's a nothing story really. Seems like most of you guys have already sacked Massa, I think he'll stay on because Williams won't build up the courage to do so. Even though they'll know there are better options out there. The biggest story is going to be McLaren. There's no way they can leave Vandoorne on the sidelines another year without expecting him to join another team. Therefore I think it will be Button's final year. Oh, and Alonso's never going to win another race again. In fact he'll be lucky to make it to the podium. I'm afraid that's the reality as far as Fernando is concerned. I wouldn't be so quick writing McLaren off for 2017. Just a gut-feeling. Agree with the rest, Nico and Massa are going to stay. Kimi will stay at Ferrari for another year aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjsharp2010 Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 GoldenColt said: VetteIfan said: There were some mild rumours last week that Rosberg had been in talks with Ferrari, but it's a nothing story really. Seems like most of you guys have already sacked Massa, I think he'll stay on because Williams won't build up the courage to do so. Even though they'll know there are better options out there. The biggest story is going to be McLaren. There's no way they can leave Vandoorne on the sidelines another year without expecting him to join another team. Therefore I think it will be Button's final year. Oh, and Alonso's never going to win another race again. In fact he'll be lucky to make it to the podium. I'm afraid that's the reality as far as Fernando is concerned. I wouldn't be so quick writing McLaren off for 2017. Just a gut-feeling. Agree with the rest, Nico and Massa are going to stay. Kimi will stay at Ferrari for another year aswell. Agreed as I think McLaren are starting to find their feet again they're certainly more competitive this year than last and I think that'll only improve given that both Button and Alonso know how to win given they both are former champs. Granted they're coming towards the end of their careers but still they know how to drive and drive fast. I don't think they'd ever lose that. Because I think that both Button and Alonso will both know when they've left their peak and can't push themselves to that level anymore. Also what with Button's fitness regime he has there's a good chance he may be able to extend himself for a few more years yet. It's just a question of whether he wants to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexicola Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 https://twitter.com/tgruener/status/736313498964262912fs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjsharp2010 Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Mexicola said: https://twitter.com/tgruener/status/736313498964262912fs Where's the Master chief he needs to be warned before we all get FLOODed :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImDyingYouIdiot Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 https://twitter.com/Motorsport/status/736821790429708288Looks like the upgrades worked out for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolvingPrawn Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Looks like Monza is staying on the calendar until 2020 :)http://sport.sky.it/sport/formula1/2016/05/30/monza-ecclestone-accordo-trovato-sara-gp-italia-2017-2020-.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjsharp2010 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 RevolvingPrawn said: Looks like Monza is staying on the calendar until 2020 :)http://sport.sky.it/sport/formula1/2016/05/30/monza-ecclestone-accordo-trovato-sara-gp-italia-2017-2020-.html Glad about that Monza's one of my favourites. I'm glad it's not going anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator f1since08 Posted May 31, 2016 Author Moderator Share Posted May 31, 2016 Doesn't Spa's contract expire this year too? Im sure it was a 3 year deal starting in 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjsharp2010 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 fIsince08 said: Doesn't Spa's contract expire this year too? Im sure it was a 3 year deal starting in 2014. I doubt Spa will be going anywhere because it's one of F1's few remaining classics not that Bernie cares too much for that only money it seems these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenColt Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Good news regarding Monza, but unfortunately that minimizes the chances of Imola returning, which is a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator f1since08 Posted May 31, 2016 Author Moderator Share Posted May 31, 2016 sjsharp2010 said: fIsince08 said: Doesn't Spa's contract expire this year too? Im sure it was a 3 year deal starting in 2014. I doubt Spa will be going anywhere because it's one of F1's few remaining classics not that Bernie cares too much for that only money it seems these days. I just looked it up and apparently it has a deal to 2018 anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xTheDarkLightx Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Imola would only return if there was more money in it than Monza which is ashame. I would rather have Imola as the European GP instead of Azerbaijan because to be honest Azerbaijan doesn't even look that good and it's only there cause of money. I think Bernie should go he doesn't no what he's doing anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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