The Formula 1 Stuff Thread

[buttonfan]

Ron Dennis set to be ousted from McLaren Group next week
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/127064/dennis-set-to-depart-mclaren-next-week

[Jiggy]

At one hand, that makes me laugh because Ron Dennis literally screwed everything up and in F1, I find great pleasure in his misfortune.

However, I am not a fan of McLaren too and this might mean they'll come back to the top. If you thought Hamilton-fans were bad, McLaren-fans are a whole another level. However, it's spearheaded by Alonso instead of Hamilton or Button, so it might not be that bad. For the good of the sport, we'd need them and especially Alonso back at the top though, so in the end, I hope this is a move that will end up with us seeing a championship battle that includes Alonso and McLaren.

[f1since08]

http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/18055515/ron-dennis-relinquishes-mclaren-leadership-role

Dennis forced on gardening leave by McLaren but remains a shareholder and on the board.

[Chadwick8505]

He doesn't sound bitter at all.            

[MBKF1]

I do feel sorry for him. Imagine putting nearly 40 years of your life into making such an amazing business and then just being forced out with nothing he can do to prevent it.

[Jiggy]

That does suck. After being a F1-icon, his departure from the sport is ending up to be unceremonious to say the least.

[Hughesy]

No more Ron speak, I'm devastated :s         

[VetteIfan]

Jiggy said:

That does suck. After being a F1-icon, his departure from the sport is ending up to be unceremonious to say the least.

Beautifully fitting though, considering the number of careers he's unceremoniously ended during his tenure. 

The man made a lot of enemies and it's come back to bite him. For that, I can't really feel an ounce of sorrow. But the F1 world will miss big personalities' such as his in the sport. 

[Jiggy]

VetteIfan said:

Jiggy said:

That does suck. After being a F1-icon, his departure from the sport is ending up to be unceremonious to say the least.

Beautifully fitting though, considering the number of careers he's unceremoniously ended during his tenure. 

The man made a lot of enemies and it's come back to bite him. For that, I can't really feel an ounce of sorrow. But the F1 world will miss big personalities' such as his in the sport. 

I have this "Ron Dennis was a prick, but he was my prick"-atttitude around him. You just need someone who you don't like in order to get that bit of negative energy out of your system. Who am I going to target now? Sam Collins? He's a disgrace to the afro.

[f1since08]

Remember the idiotic idea of having all safety car periods end with a standing start? Well it's happened. Bollocks to that.
http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/18134847/formula-one-teams-agree-standing-restarts-all-safety-car-periods

[MBKF1]

Ugh, I thought F1 was getting past all this gimmicky stuff? Clearly not.

It will add to the spectacle, without a doubt, but at somewhere like Monaco where a first lap clash is extremely likely, it will just be awful. It just augments the possibility of another accident, which will bring out another safety car, which will lead to another accident on the restart, so another safety car, etc.

Get Ross Brawn in charge quickly, please.

[f1since08]

MBKF1 said:

Ugh, I thought F1 was getting past all this gimmicky stuff? Clearly not.

It will add to the spectacle, without a doubt, but at somewhere like Monaco where a first lap clash is extremely likely, it will just be awful. It just augments the possibility of another accident, which will bring out another safety car, which will lead to another accident on the restart, so another safety car, etc.

Get Ross Brawn in charge quickly, please.

I've just done an article on it and worked out that in Brazil they would have done four standing starts. That will play havoc with the clutch designs.

And I brought this up when it was touted last time round. What happens if there is an aborted start? Or the leader's clutch fails and he is stranded at the front of the field? In the wet, that could cause a Spa 98 scenario.

[Mexicola]

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[VetteIfan]

fIsince08 said:

I've just done an article on it and worked out that in Brazil they would have done four standing starts. That will play havoc with the clutch designs.

Erm.... at the start of the race day they do at least one (normally two or three) practice starts in the pit lane, and then one off the grid for the formation lap, as well as the one for the actual race start. We also see every weekend teams doing several practice starts over the course of a practice session. 

The clutch isn't incapable of being used for more than one standing start a day. 

[Jiggy]

I like it. I like a lot.                                      

[f1since08]

VetteIfan said:

fIsince08 said:

I've just done an article on it and worked out that in Brazil they would have done four standing starts. That will play havoc with the clutch designs.

Erm.... at the start of the race day they do at least one (normally two or three) practice starts in the pit lane, and then one off the grid for the formation lap, as well as the one for the actual race start. We also see every weekend teams doing several practice starts over the course of a practice session. 

The clutch isn't incapable of being used for more than one standing start a day. 

Mercedes clutches are, recently if there has been an aborted start they overheat the clutch and it goes horribly wrong.

[couger1981]

couger1981 said:

1. Other than Mercedes, which teams will win races this year?
Ferrari

2. What will be the best result for Haas?
10th

3. Who will score more points: Max Verstappen or Nico Hulkenberg?
Max Verstappen

4. Which team will score more points: McLaren or Renault?
Renault

5. Which driver will out-qualify his team mate most frequently?
Felipe Nasr over Marcus Ericsson

6. Will Kimi Raikkonen remain on the grid for 2017?
Maybe

7. How many of the 11 teams will score points?
8

8. Before the season ends, will Monza be confirmed as the host of the 2017 Italian Grand Prix?
Maybe, Automobile club of Italy rescued Monza this year but next year its anyones guess.

9. Who will win the FIA pole position trophy?
Nico Rosberg

10. Who will be the first driver to be replaced or substituted for a race?
Rio Haryanto

11. And who will take their place?
Will Stevens

12. Which driver will collect the most penalty points for driving infringements?
Rio Haryanto

13. Who will win the Monaco Grand Prix?
Daniel Ricciardo

14. Who will crash out of the most races?
Fernando Alonso

15. Whose engines will Red Bull use in 2017?
Uncertain they are saying they may pull out after 2016 but if they don't it's either a RBR designed engine, TAG or Honda

16. At which race will the drivers’ championship be decided?
Hoping it's Abu Dhabi but most likely Brazil (Sao Paulo)

17. What will be the biggest political story of the year?
Haas and McLaren struggling for pace

18. What will be the most entertaining race of the year?
Australia, new teams, new drivers, knock out Qualifying sessions and clamp down of communications between the pits and the driver

19. Who will win the Constructors Championship?
Mercedes

20. Who will win the Drivers Championship?
Lewis Hamilton

Got some right :)

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[RevolvingPrawn]

RevolvingPrawn said:

1. Other than Mercedes, which teams will win races this year?
Ferrari - Wrong

2. What will be the best result for Haas?
7th - Wrong

3. Who will score more points: Max Verstappen or Nico Hulkenberg?
Verstappen - Correct!

4. Which team will score more points: McLaren or Renault?
McLaren - Correct!

5. Which driver will out-qualify his team mate most frequently?
Vettel over Raikkonen - Wrong

6. Will Kimi Raikkonen remain on the grid for 2017?
Doubt it - Wrong

7. How many of the 11 teams will score points?
9 - Wrong

8. Before the season ends, will Monza be confirmed as the host of the 2017 Italian Grand Prix?
Yes - Correct!

9. Who will win the FIA pole position trophy?
Hamilton - Correct!

10. Who will be the first driver to be replaced or substituted for a race?
Haryanto - Wrong

11. And who will take their place?
Whoever pays most - Wrong

12. Which driver will collect the most penalty points for driving infringements?
Sainz - Wrong

13. Who will win the Monaco Grand Prix?
Vettel - Wrong

14. Who will crash out of the most races?
Sainz - No idea

15. Whose engines will Red Bull use in 2017?
Same engine as now - Correct!

16. At which race will the drivers’ championship be decided?
Brazil - Wrong

17. What will be the biggest political story of the year?
McLaren and Honda falling out - Wrong

18. What will be the most entertaining race of the year?
Baku - Very Wrong

19. Who will win the Constructors Championship?
Merc - Correct!

20. Who will win the Drivers Championship?
Hamilton - Wrong

13/14 out of 20 wrong lol.

[MBKF1]

1. Other than Mercedes, which teams will win races this year?
Ferrari, Williams (WRONG)

2. What will be the best result for Haas?
11th (WRONG)

3. Who will score more points: Max Verstappen or Nico Hulkenberg?
Max Verstappen (CORRECT)

4. Which team will score more points: McLaren or Renault?
McLaren (CORRECT)

5. Which driver will out-qualify his team mate most frequently?
Romain Grosjean (on Esteban Gutierrez) (WRONG)

6. Will Kimi Raikkonen remain on the grid for 2017?
No (WRONG)

7. How many of the 11 teams will score points?
9 (WRONG)

8. Before the season ends, will Monza be confirmed as the host of the 2017 Italian Grand Prix?
Yes (CORRECT)

9. Who will win the FIA pole position trophy?
Lewis Hamilton (CORRECT)

10. Who will be the first driver to be replaced or substituted for a race?
Rio Haryanto (WRONG)

11. And who will take their place?
Alexander Rossi (WRONG)

12. Which driver will collect the most penalty points for driving infringements?
Pascal Wehrlein (now Maldonado isn't here to take this award!) (WRONG, I think)

13. Who will win the Monaco Grand Prix?
Lewis Hamilton, he'll finally do it. (CORRECT)

14. Who will crash out of the most races?
Carlos Sainz (UNSURE)

15. Whose engines will Red Bull use in 2017?
TAG /  Renault, again (CORRECT)

16. At which race will the drivers’ championship be decided?
Mexico (WRONG)

17. What will be the biggest political story of the year?
Red Bull and their engine struggles. (WRONG)

18. What will be the most entertaining race of the year?
Belgium (WRONG)

19. Who will win the Constructors Championship?
Mercedes (CORRECT)

20. Who will win the Drivers Championship?
Lewis Hamilton (WRONG)
________

7 or 8 / 20, not great!

[Jiggy]

Jiggy said:

1. Other than Mercedes, which teams will win races this year?
Ferrari, Toro Rosso, Williams, Force India

- The fuck was I smoking.

2. What will be the best result for Haas?
6th
- 5th. Well, close enough.

3. Who will score more points: Max Verstappen or Nico Hulkenberg?
Max Verstappen
- Thank fuck for patriotism.

4. Which team will score more points: McLaren or Renault?
McLaren
- Well yeah.

5. Which driver will out-qualify his team mate most frequently?
Pascal Wehrlein
- Turns out to be Valtteri Bottas.

6. Will Kimi Raikkonen remain on the grid for 2017?
No
- Yes. That's what you get for not believing in based I was having a shit man.

7. How many of the 11 teams will score points?
11
- OH YEAH I KNEW THAT


8. Before the season ends, will Monza be confirmed as the host of the 2017 Italian Grand Prix?
Yes
- Not going to check, won again.


9. Who will win the FIA pole position trophy?
Nico Rosberg
- That's a quick no, right.

10. Who will be the first driver to be replaced or substituted for a race?
Nobody
- Man, piss off.

11. And who will take their place?
Nobody
- I really mean it.

12. Which driver will collect the most penalty points for driving infringements?
Marcus Ericsson
- Daniil Kvyat. Great season for him then.
13. Who will win the Monaco Grand Prix?
Max Verstappen
- Yep. Called it.
14. Who will crash out of the most races?
Nicolas Hülkenberg
- Yeah, turns out it was Wehrlein. Hulk is a close second with 2 crash-retirements. Then again, so is half the grid.

15. Whose engines will Red Bull use in 2017?
Mercedes
-Probably not.

16. At which race will the drivers’ championship be decided?
Abu Dhabi or Brazil. Which one the last GP is.
- Yay.

17. What will be the biggest political story of the year?
Lewis Hamilton causing something with his segway.
- This was correct.

18. What will be the most entertaining race of the year?
Malaysian GP.
- Didn't Lewis blew up his engine here? Close enough to being correct.

19. Who will win the Constructors Championship?
Mercedes
- How dare you.

20. Who will win the Drivers Championship?
Kimi Raikkönen
- Yeah, ok lad

[f1since08]

A rather interesting stat. Sir Sterling Moss now reclaims top spot on the most wins without a title list, despite not racing for more than 5 decades and being in his 80s!

[VetteIfan]

VetteIfan said:

1. Other than Mercedes, which teams will win races this year?
Ferrari, Red Bull

2. What will be the best result for Haas?
7th

3. Who will score more points: Max Verstappen or Nico Hulkenberg?
Verstappen

4. Which team will score more points: McLaren or Renault?
McLaren

5. Which driver will out-qualify his team mate most frequently?
Vettel over Raikkonen

6. Will Kimi Raikkonen remain on the grid for 2017?
No

7. How many of the 11 teams will score points?
10

8. Before the season ends, will Monza be confirmed as the host of the 2017 Italian Grand Prix?
Better be

9. Who will win the FIA pole position trophy?
Rosberg

10. Who will be the first driver to be replaced or substituted for a race?
Haryanto

11. And who will take their place?
Don't really care tbh

12. Which driver will collect the most penalty points for driving infringements?
Gutierrez

13. Who will win the Monaco Grand Prix?
I'd say everyone has a chance except Lewis, who as we know by now is never destined to win Monsco ever again. 

14. Who will crash out of the most races?
Haryanto

15. Whose engines will Red Bull use in 2017?
TAG Heuer

16. At which race will the drivers’ championship be decided?
Brazil

17. What will be the biggest political story of the year?
Debates about cost cutting and rule making

18. What will be the most entertaining race of the year?
Baku. I think its destined after all the moaning that has been made about the track itself and the Le Mans clash. 

19. Who will win the Constructors Championship?
Mercedes

20. Who will win the Drivers Championship?
Vettel

I don't know what the answers are to some of these question but by my rough reckoning I make it out to be 6.5/20. Oh dear. 

[f1since08]

fIsince08 said:

1. Other than Mercedes, which teams will win races this year?
Ferrari, Williams and I'll say Force India. - Crikey no
2. What will be the best result for Haas?
7th place - Well not far off.
3. Who will score more points: Max Verstappen or Nico Hulkenberg?
Hulkenberg - Nope
4. Which team will score more points: McLaren or Renault?
Renault - Nope
5. Which driver will out-qualify his team mate most frequently?
Pascal Wehrlein - Lolz no
6. Will Kimi Raikkonen remain on the grid for 2017?
No chance  - Nah
7. How many of the 11 teams will score points?
11 - YEAH
8. Before the season ends, will Monza be confirmed as the host of the 2017 Italian Grand Prix?
I hope so. - Technically it was
9. Who will win the FIA pole position trophy?
Hamilton  - Yeah
10. Who will be the first driver to be replaced or substituted for a race?
Max Verstappen for a race ban  - Nah
11. And who will take their place?
Pierre Gasly - Nah
12. Which driver will collect the most penalty points for driving infringements?
Max Verstappen - Nope
13. Who will win the Monaco Grand Prix?
Sebastian Vettel - Nah
14. Who will crash out of the most races?
Guttierez - Surprisingly, no!
15. Whose engines will Red Bull use in 2017?
Renault/TAG Heuer - Yep
16. At which race will the drivers’ championship be decided?
Brazil - Nah
17. What will be the biggest political story of the year?
Capgate.  - Nah
18. What will be the most entertaining race of the year?
USA. - Nah
19. Who will win the Constructors Championship?
Mercedes - Yeah
20. Who will win the Drivers Championship?
Nico Rosberg. - Sadly, yeah.

A miserable 6!

[AMSKRR]

AMS97KRR said:

1. Other than Mercedes, which teams will win races this year?
Ferrari.


2. What will be the best result for Haas?
9th place.


3. Who will score more points: Max Verstappen or Nico Hulkenberg?
Verstappen

4. Which team will score more points: McLaren or Renault?
McLaren

5. Which driver will out-qualify his team mate most frequently?
Vettel 

6. Will Kimi Raikkonen remain on the grid for 2017?
Yes

7. How many of the 11 teams will score points?
10, I don't see Manor scoring.

8. Before the season ends, will Monza be confirmed as the host of the 2017 Italian Grand Prix?
Yes

9. Who will win the FIA pole position trophy?
Hamilton

10. Who will be the first driver to be replaced or substituted for a race?
No one will be replaced because of performance. 

11. And who will take their place?
No one.

12. Which driver will collect the most penalty points for driving infringements?
Haryanto 

13. Who will win the Monaco Grand Prix?
Hamilton

14. Who will crash out of the most races?
Haryanto

15. Whose engines will Red Bull use in 2017?
Honda

16. At which race will the drivers’ championship be decided?
Second last one

17. What will be the biggest political story of the year?
A team will fall out with their engine supplier - likely Red Bull.

18. What will be the most entertaining race of the year?
Brazil

19. Who will win the Constructors Championship?
Mercedes

20. Who will win the Drivers Championship?
Hamilton - unfortunately. I want to see someone else win really, don't care who.


6 Right I believe, 3, 4, 6, 9, 13 and 19

[f1since08]

Do we have a consensus on what was the most entertaining race btw?