Moderator MBKF1 Posted July 4, 2017 Moderator Share Posted July 4, 2017 Mexicola said: Bring back bridge corner and everything will be sweet. That new section they added in 2010 is physical nonsense. I can see why they did it. The whole Bridge / Priory section didn't offer much in terms of close racing, at least now you've got a good section which leads into a good daring overtaking spot. But yeah, I miss Bridge a lot, cracking corner. VetteIfan said: MBKF1 said: Stroll's got the time to develop and become a world champion in the future, and could easily surpass any records Jacques achieved, that would shut him up. One good race for Stroll and he's now a potential world champion. His Baku performance was very good but his previous 7 races less so, let's not jump the gun. Probably should've worded it better. I totally agree, he's still got a lot to prove, apart from Baku his first few races have been poor, and Massa has outclassed him in all areas. What I mean is in terms of time frame. If he remains competitive and is in F1 for the next few years then he'll just keep slowly improving, and with a potential 15-20 years in F1, he's certainly got the time to become a world champion in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggy Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Stroll has raw talent. Very raw. But he's richer than most F1-teams, so he'd never get dropped unless he loses his license due to on-track incidents, so he could literally drive around like an amateur for 3, 4 years until he's no longer a novice and learned to drive really well.Bet Hulkenberg would've gotten a podium by now if he was as rich as Stroll, just because he wouldn't have been dropped by Williams after his debut season.It's all about how high his ceiling is and that's kind of really hard to tell right now, so he could end up being whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMSKRR Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 JensonBottom said: Silverstone has to be the dullest historic track around, although at least the racing is ok. I'd love a return to Brands Hatch despite how ridiculously unlikely that is and how the races would be a procession, its just so cool. Eh, I disagree. It's such a fast circuit and some of the corners like Maggots and Becketts are fantastic to watch cars go through. I love Monza, but would anyone suggest that it has better corners/more challenging corners than Silverstone? It's mainly long straights with chicanes, with two 90 degree corners, and a long hairpin. But it is classic and fun to watch and race on games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Mexicola said: Bring back bridge corner and everything will be sweet. That new section they added in 2010 is physical nonsense. Miss the old section so much. We walked on it when we went to BTCC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beans_ Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 You guys seen that Kubica is being giving a second test to see if he is capable of running at a competitive level. Be good to see him back if he can drive the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggy Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Imagine if Palmer gets dropped for an one-armed man, fucking hell, how embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImDyingYouIdiot Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Jiggy said: Imagine if Palmer gets dropped for an one-armed man, **** hell, how embarrassing. For a one-armed man who could have been World Champion if BMW wouldn't have dropped the freaking ball in 2008. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolvingPrawn Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Apparently this is the Shield cockpit protection. Pretty much just Red Bull's aeroscreen but going down the nose further. Gonna be tested next weekend at Silverstone, by Ferrari.https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fia-test-shield-silverstone-practice-927240/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggy Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Absolutely disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator MBKF1 Posted July 8, 2017 Moderator Share Posted July 8, 2017 I hope it's not that blue colour, more like the dark aeroscreen Red Bull tried out last year. I'll wait to see it in the flesh before giving a judgement on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liaveil Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 It's actually not as bad as I thought it would be. Certainly a monumental step forward from that awful halo device. I could learn to like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 At least it doesn't look like a thong... I still don't agree with the FIA that F1 needs it. I hope there's some kind of cooling duct for the drivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenColt Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 I hate it, just like I hate any single one of these devices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImDyingYouIdiot Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 It's decent in the render, let's see how well it looks on an actual car.What I'm worried about is the additional weight, not like the current cars are exactly light weights. Not to mention the cooling of the driver and the visibility during wet sessions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMSKRR Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 It's just stupid. If we want an open cockpit, keep an open cockpit. If you want a close one just redesign the cars around that ffs FIA. Stop ruining the look of the cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator f1since08 Posted July 9, 2017 Author Moderator Share Posted July 9, 2017 I'm gonna have a go at a silly season prediction.Merc: Lewis Hamilton & Fernando AlonsoFerrari: Sebastian Vettel & Sergio PerezRed Bull: Daniel Ricciardo & Max VerstappenForce India: Esteban Ocon & Pascal WehrleinWilliams: Felipe Massa & Lance StrollToro Rosso: Carlos Sainz Jr & Pierre GaslyHaas: Kevin Magnussen & Charles LeclercSauber: Marcus Ericsson & Antonio GiovinazziMcLaren: Valtteri Bottas & Stoffel Vandoorne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liaveil Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 As much as I'd like Alonso vs Hamilton, Ferrari is the more likely of the two and even that's a seriously long shot. Bottas is on form at the moment so Mercedes have no reason to change him even if Alonso is the stronger of the two.Again, a lot of the driver market is going to depend on whether Kimi retires or not. It's probable this year as it's showing he's passed his best and isn't able to help in the constructors battle. I'd probably agree that Perez is the strongest candidate for the Ferrari drive but Grosjean is also a solid option assuming Alonso is completely out of the running.Sainz is another major player in the driver market I think even though I don't rate him that highly compared to other drivers out there. Marko keeps saying he's tied to Toro Rosso but it wouldn't surprise me if he moved yet. I don't want to get my hopes up but with Kubica being announced to be doing another test is it possible he could yet return? Highly unlikely but he could shake the driver market a bit if he is fit enough and motivated enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apex Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 @fIsince08 my predictions:mercs - verstappen and Hamilton ferrari - vettel and Perezred bull - ricciardo and sainz force india - ocon and wherleinHaas - grosjean and LeclercRenault - hulkenburg and kubica torro rosso - kvyat and gasly mclaren (Mercedes) - alonso and vandoornewilliams - bottas and strollsauber - giovanazzi and massa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator MBKF1 Posted July 9, 2017 Moderator Share Posted July 9, 2017 I'll have a go at silly season as well, actually dreamt this up earlier this week so I'll copy and paste it here:Mercedes | Hamilton / BottasFerrari | Vettel / PerezRed Bull | Ricciardo / VerstappenForce India | Ocon / WehrleinWilliams | Massa / StrollHaas | Grosjean / MagnussenRenault | Hulkenberg / SainzToro Rosso | Kvyat / GaslyMcLaren | Alonso / VandoorneSauber | Ericsson / GiovinazziAs much as I'd love to see Alonso in a Mercedes and Kubica back at Renault, I unfortunately highly doubt it will happen, so I'm expecting a relatively stable silly season. I'll go into more detail below (for anyone that's vaguely interested in my reasoning).________________Mercedes | I'm pretty sure Bottas has done enough to keep a contract for next year. Super quick, consistent, not making (many) mistakes. For Mercedes, why would they need Alonso? They've already got a premier driver in Hamilton, and Alonso would undoubtedly make the current harmony in the team unstable, so why change it.Ferrari | We say it every year, will Raikkonen retire? Every year we say yes, but this time I honestly think he will. Half the points of Vettel, and he's just clearly not got the pace anymore. With Perez consistently putting in brilliant performances in the Force India, I think he'd be a superb partner to Vettel. He's got the experience (7 years now, can you believe that?!), and he's damn quick.Red Bull | I doubt Ferrari will take Verstappen right now, so I'm pretty sure Red Bull will remain as it is.Force India | With Perez gone to Ferrari, it makes sense for Wehrlein to be promoted to the now de-facto Mercedes B-team.Williams | Stroll will remain, and I reckon Massa will carry on for another season too. I can't see many other possible candidates (possibly Sainz, or Wehrlein), and to be fair, Felipe is doing a fine job this year, so I think he'll stay.Haas | I'm sure Grosjean will be high on the Ferrari list, but after missing out to Perez, he'll remain at Haas alongside Magnussen. I'm sure Ferrari would like to put one of their juniors (Giovinazzi or Leclerc) in there, but I doubt it'll happen.Renault | With Hulkenberg staying put, and Palmer surely going, it's a potentially great seat in terms of the longer future. I would cry of joy if Kubica returned with them, but unfortunately I just can't see it happening right now, unless he does the most incredible testing in the next few months. Alonso is a possibility, but he can't afford to wait another 3 years to potentially win a championship. So I reckon Sainz would be a good fit, he's young, very quick, and he's desperate to get to a higher team. Renault could be good for him with no place at Red Bull.Toro Rosso | With Sainz gone to Renault, it makes total sense for Pierre Gasly to make the promotion, but do Toro Rosso retain Kvyat? I think they will, simply because Red Bull currently don't have another driver in their programme ready to make the step. The only reason I can see Kvyat going is if Red Bull do what they did with Verstappen a couple of years ago, which is signing a big talent from F2 / F3 who isn't currently contracted to another team, and putting them straight into F1. But I doubt this will happen for 2018.McLaren | I think Alonso will stay, whether it's Honda or Mercedes power, but 2018 will be the absolute final straw. One of the other reasons I think he'll stay is because he's got his heart set on winning the Indy 500 and Le Mans, and I can't see any other team other than McLaren allowing him to do it.Sauber | With new Honda power, I wonder whether one of their junior drivers will be promoted (either Matsushita from F2, or Fukuzumi from F3, but they're both not ready yet in my opinion). I'm sure they'll keep Ericsson, and I reckon Giovinazzi will get a full crack at a season with them, despite his Ferrari affiliation.________________I've said it before along with Chris, but I think Charles Leclerc is more than ready for the step up to F1, and I honestly think he would be the perfect replacement at Ferrari alongside Vettel. If I were Marchionne, he'd be the guy I'd pick to replace Raikkonen. But I don't think it will happen, and unfortunately I don't think he'll even get a seat on the grid at all, despite his immense talent and incredible form. I say this simply because Ferrari historically don't take huge risks on young rookies. I hope I'm proven wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apex Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 @fIsince08 my prediction mercs - verstappen and Hamilton ferrari - vettel and Perezred bull - riccuardo and sainz force india - ocon and wherleinHaas - grosjean and LeclercRenault - hulkenburg and kubica torro rosso - kvyat and gasly mclaren (Mercedes) - alonso and vandoorne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolvingPrawn Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Here's mine.Mercedes | Hamilton / BottasFerrari | Vettel / GrosjeanRed Bull | Ricciardo / VerstappenForce India | Ocon / PerezWilliams | Massa / StrollHaas | Leclerc / MagnussenRenault | Hulkenberg / KubicaToro Rosso | Kvyat / SainzMcLaren | Alonso / VandoorneSauber | Ericsson / WehrleinI can see Grosjean going to Ferrari over Perez, mainly because in Canada he wouldn't play the team game, and after Baku just straight up blaming his teammate (even though he's mostly right) rather than moving on and forgetting about it. It's almost like his ego has inflated a bit this season, and I think Ferrari would rather go for Grosjean who'd be more compliant overall.With Haas more or less being a Ferrari B-team it'd make sense for Leclerc to fill Grosjean's old seat if he carries on with his cruise to the F2 title.I can definitely see Renault bringing back Kubica, cos even with a gammy arm he'd be faster and more consistent than Palmer.Sainz is locked into his Red Bull/Toro Rosso contract, and Christian Horner has said today that it's likely Kvyat will stay, despite Gasly waiting for a seat.Alonso will go for a 1 year extension at McLaren cos none of the big teams want him. The rest will more or less stay the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenColt Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 baconbrawler said: @fIsince08 my prediction mercs - verstappen and Hamilton ferrari - vettel and Perezred bull - riccuardo and sainz force india - ocon and wherleinHaas - grosjean and LeclercRenault - hulkenburg and kubica torro rosso - kvyat and gasly mclaren (Mercedes) - alonso and vandoorne So, Bottas out of F1? Sounds... interesting. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggy Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Mercedes | Hamilton / BottasFerrari | Vettel / GrosjeanRed Bull | Ricciardo / VerstappenForce India | Ocon / PerezWilliams | Wehrlein / StrollHaas | LeClerc / MagnussenRenault | Hulkenberg / SirotkinToro Rosso | Sainz / GaslyMcLaren | Alonso / VandoorneSauber | Ericsson / MatsushitaTo elaborate:Mercedes: They like Ham and Bot and vice versa.Ferrari: Kimi out because old and because Leclerc finna win the F2-championship and now needs a drive. But Ferrari don't do rookies and Haas is competitive enough to please young Charles. Grosjean moves up because he's good, Ferrari likes him and Perez doesn't open up a spot for Leclerc.Red Bull: Honestly, they should consider making their own engines, Red Bull could maybe pull it off. Because Max' biggest gripe is the Renault-engine. Still, both drivers are very pleased and settled within the team.Force India: No better place to go for both drivers, with top-team spots hard to come by. Ocon won't mind, as this is effectively his rookie-season.Williams: Massa retiring after all, stays around the team to mentor Stroll. Wehrlein to Williams because Mercedes and because Sauber is getting Honda-engines. I hope he doens't piss off the team.Haas: Grosjean leaves, F2-champion Leclerc joins, Magnussen has proven to be a solid driver who could lead the team, so stays.Renault: Hulk still kicking himself that he isn't at Mercedes right now, but whatever, maybe Renault is actually good in 2018. Next to him is Sirotkin, who has been linked with the team for a while and is the main reason Renault was only handing out one-year-contracts for the second seat. Can't imagine it being anyone else but Sirotkin. Well, maybe Alonso, but that is a huge stretch.Toro Rosso: Kvyat drops out because he's been crap since his demotion. Gasly gets the chance to deliver. Sainz is stuck.McLaren: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHASauber: MAUAUFHUAFOAUFJA THEY ACTUALLY SWITCHED TO HONDA-ENGINES THE FOOLS oh well, they're getting in a Honda-protege now then. Also Ericsson is never leaving. How much money can a Swede have, really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadwick8505 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 My predictions for 2018Mercedes- Hamilton and BottasFerrari - Vettel and Grosjean Red Bull - Ricciardo and Verstappen Force India - Perez and OconWilliams - Stroll and Kyvat Toro Rosso - Sainz and Gasley Haas - Magnussen and LeclercMcLaren - Alonso and VandoorneRenault - Hulkenberg and Sirotkin (maybe Kubica)Sauber - Erickson... I literally can't name their second driver. Wehrlein? had to look it up, it's Wehrlein.Bottas as is doing a fine job at Mercedes, playing the second seat well and not getting in Hamiltons way but can still win for the team. I don't see a reason to change anything. Its probably time for Kimi to retire again (as much as I don't want to see him go). I think it comes down to Perez and Grosjean. Grosjean gets it for me because of the Haas connection with Ferrari, it should be a smooth transition. I also don't think Perez will play the second driver well. Red Bull... their contracts are too solid to allow Verstappen to go anywhere yet. I doubt he was able to get a performance/reliability exit clause. Force India, it isn't broken so don't fix it. As long as Perez has no place to go at least. Williams, Massa is fine and might stay, but I think not. Stroll will stay because money and nothing else. Kyvat may need a seat, although Horner is suggesting otherwise. I think if kyvat gets dropped, Massa will step aside for him. Toro Rosso, Kyvat should be done in my opinion. Gasley is ready and itching to go, so I'd give it to him. Haas, losing Grosjean to Ferrari, being the Ferrari B-team, Leclerc makes the most sense. Magnusen is fine so might as well keep him. Renault, get rid of Palmer, and put Sirotkin in because they already have him. They aren't up to speed enough to attract Alonso or another big name yet. McLaren, with a Honda at the back no one is interested so they're stuck with what they got which really two good drivers so why change?Sauber... does it matter? With a good engine they're last. I can't imagine how bad it'll be with a Honda. So unless Honda wants someone special there, nothing will change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator MBKF1 Posted July 11, 2017 Moderator Share Posted July 11, 2017 JAKE HUMPHREY IS HOSTING F1 LIVE TOMORROW IN LONDON, WITH COULTHARD COMMENTATING AND EDDIE JORDAN THERE TOO, REJOICE! THE F1 DREAM TEAM IS BACK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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