Jump to content Jump to content

The Formula 1 Stuff Thread


Recommended Posts

@DiRTKiNG808
Baku was okay, but that has really long straights where most of the overtaking was done before the corner. If you think this season's racing has been great then you are easily pleased. Ricciardo overtook a lot in the previous race because of the tyres he was on.

The drivers themselves have said it's near impossible to follow other cars closely, you only have to look at IndyCar to see how close they can follow through the corners and overtake.
Link to post
Share on other sites
Hasn't Formula 1 been like that for a while? I think the races have been great so far when you compare them to a couple years ago, they have been very exciting. You might as well enjoy what you have instead of always being dissatisfied and complaining all the time. Its not the fact about easily entertained. Good racing is not 1,000 overtakes every race. Its the battles that make it worth it.
Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Moderator
For me, I think the first four races of this season have been fantastic! Perhaps with the exception of Australia. But Bahrain, China and Baku all had me gripped and my heart rate was racing watching them at certain points.

I'm all for changing the regulations to help promote better wheel to wheel racing, but even then, not everyone is ever going to be pleased or satisfied with Formula 1. Some people want excitement and overtakes every single lap, but are those the most exciting races?

The most overtakes ever was the 2016 Chinese GP, with 161 overtakes, and before that I believe it was the 2011 Turkish GP. Do we remember those races as the most exciting in F1 history? No. We think of Japan 2005, Canada 2011, Brazil 2012, Bahrain 2014 or Hungary 2014, for example. Those were races were it was down to driving skill and unexpected changeable factors like mixed up grids, wet weather or safety cars.

Not every race is going to be a classic, and sometimes you need a few slower races to make you appreciate the great ones. Usually the best races come when you least expect it. You can never predict that a race is going to be a classic, it just happens for a variety of factors and variables.

Every race has its own story, and the first four races of this season have all been totally different in terms of strategy, luck and other variables. Loving F1 2018 so far.
Link to post
Share on other sites
Hasn't Formula 1 been like that for a while? I think the races have been great so far when you compare them to a couple years ago, they have been very exciting. You might as well enjoy what you have instead of always being dissatisfied and complaining all the time. Its not the fact about easily entertained. Good racing is not 1,000 overtakes every race. Its the battles that make it worth it.
Where did I say good racing means 1000 overtakes? Hell I said we should get rid of DRS as it doesn't make for exciting racing. Just because F1 has been like that for awhile that means it shouldn't be changed? I don't think that battles have been that great, most of the battles get done via pitstops. Why should I just enjoy it? If everyone in the world acted like that then nothing would progress and improve. 
Link to post
Share on other sites
I get the proposal. I do. However, first things first, I don't think it's going to change the situation all that dramatically. We had simpler wings once upon a time, yet, the overtaking problem was as present as it is now. Will this proposal increase the number of overtakes? Yeah, sure. But I don' think it's going to be nearly as much as some experts and fans expect.

Second point, I hate that we already have a change in regulations. The current ones are not even two freaking seasons old, the top teams seem fairly close together ensuring a tight race to the winner's trophy, and here we are, messing about with rules & regulations once more. What if one team nails it and dominates next year like Red Bull, Ferrari or Mercedes once did? Was that worth the five extra overtakes in Hungary?

Third and last point, the teams can now throw away a majority of their aero R&D from the past few seasons. Pissing away year's worth of data, the smaller teams will still struggle, the bigger teams will adapt surely, but once more the cars are getting slowed down, which I was never a big fan of.

Oh, and let's not forget that the teams lose once more areas of the car in which they are no longer allowed to develop properly. Fuck, at this point we are getting closer and closer to a spec series, and last I checked, that's not what F1 ever wanted to be.



Of course, that's all just my opinion. And what the fuck do I know? I'm just some asshole on the internet.
Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Moderator
The really annoying thing about this is that, once again, the FIA were warned what would happen if the regs went ahead but did it anyway. All the engineers, drivers and fans that know a bit about aero knew we'd struggle to get overtaking but nope, they put more aero on the cars anyway!

I remember Nico Rosberg wanted mechanical grip instead of downforce for 2017, he was right! For sure!
Link to post
Share on other sites
What the FIA needs to do is really look at what they are doing and take the time to study and come to a resolute set of rules that will provide the best F1 experience, wether it be more battles or overtakes. Band-Aid solutions every other year will not work. Get the drivers point of view for fricken sake.
Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Moderator
Remember I mentioned a while back that I'm going to the Monaco Grand Prix qualifying this year?

Well there's been another development. My girlfriend's parents know a bloke who works at the Cafe de Paris (the one in Casino Square), and even though it is fully booked, he's managed to get us a table there for the race day on Sunday!!!

My first experience of the Monaco Grand Prix is going to be eating lunch and drinking champagne at the Cafe de Paris, right next to the circuit.

What. The. F*ck.

With the British GP VIP experience last year, the free Goodwood Revival tickets, meeting Martin Brundle on holiday, and now this, I am officially the luckiest bastard on the planet.
Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Moderator
Talking of girlfriends, I randomly found out earlier that F2 driver and Mercedes reserve, George Russell, is currently dating Seychelle de Vries, who is Nyck de Vries' sister. And before Russell, she previously dated Max Verstappen!

F1NCEST
Link to post
Share on other sites
I don’t see the problem with it. It’s not dangerous or anything.
No it's not, but it's not structural it's for aero benefit to clear up the airflow from the halo. Seems the FIA have allowed it, but other teams will either argue to get it banned or just copy it.

Personally they should get rid of grid penalties unless it's for a racing incident. I know people will then say teams will use new parts all the time (I wish they could) but just half the constructor points they win.
Link to post
Share on other sites
The best way to get rid of grid penalties is to get to the root of why they're limited to a certain amount in the first place - cost. Lower cost for parts means they can have more of them for the same amount of money. Pretty straight forward. 

The gearbox is probably the worst case in point because they're the most obvious thing that should be made spec on these cars imo. They make no significant impact on performance, the fans never see them and yet teams are spending millions developing/buying them in the name of making the cars independent from each other every year. It's dumb. 
Link to post
Share on other sites
Well they did say it was radical. If it makes them more competitive I don't care.

https://twitter.com/FormulaSmith/status/994630284367802374?s=19

Ok this one tops it

https://twitter.com/DaveClarkDesign/status/994647542238466048?s=19
Link to post
Share on other sites
Hughesy said:
I don’t see the problem with it. It’s not dangerous or anything.
No it's not, but it's not structural it's for aero benefit to clear up the airflow from the halo. Seems the FIA have allowed it, but other teams will either argue to get it banned or just copy it.

Personally they should get rid of grid penalties unless it's for a racing incident. I know people will then say teams will use new parts all the time (I wish they could) but just half the constructor points they win.
Same here. I wish the teams could use more parts through out the season.
Link to post
Share on other sites
  • UP100 pinned this topic

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...