Skiddyboy13 0 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Even stranger, from the sounds of it, it will only be for Spa with Koby back in the car for Monza.https://twitter.com/tgruener/status/501660467031728128 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
APR193 0 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Skiddyboy13 said: Even stranger, from the sounds of it, it will only be for Spa with Koby back in the car for Monza.https://twitter.com/tgruener/status/501660467031728128 Its got to surely be because of sponsor money then? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mexicola 10 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Unlikely. As far as I'm aware Lotterer doesn't seem to have any personal backers that could broker such a deal. Kamui's effectively driving for free, so I can't see any financial gain that Caterham could gain from this.This move makes absolutely no sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moderator f1since08 110 Posted August 19, 2014 Author Moderator Share Posted August 19, 2014 Apparently it's because Lotterer is good in the wet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mexicola 10 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Chris, your source is full of crap. Give him a slap for me and I'll give ye £200. :p Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moderator f1since08 110 Posted August 19, 2014 Author Moderator Share Posted August 19, 2014 Mexicola said: Chris, your source is full of crap. Give him a slap for me and I'll give ye £200. :p But it was the same source as above!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mexicola 10 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 wat sauce - that Tobias gi, whoever he is, never said anything about that therrr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moderator f1since08 110 Posted August 19, 2014 Author Moderator Share Posted August 19, 2014 Mexicola said: wat sauce - that Tobias gi, whoever he is, never said anything about that therrr It was on the website though. Provided Google translated it right :p Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mexicola 10 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Mexicola said: wat websyte Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jiggy 5 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Lotterer apparently is a good developer, so they're looking for his feedback.Could've just asked Nick Heidfeld, but whatever. Also, Spa is one of the joker races, this is basically throwing a race away, because there is no way Lotterer is going to perform. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RevolvingPrawn 1 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Jiggy said: Lotterer apparently is a good developer, so they're looking for his feedback.Could've just asked Nick Heidfeld, but whatever. Also, Spa is one of the joker races, this is basically throwing a race away, because there is no way Lotterer is going to perform. Lotterer has been driving Super Formula cars in Japan for years, and considering how slow the Caterham is it won't be that big of a jump for him. And don't forget that the man is a 3x Le Mans winner in a car that has a higher top speed than the Caterham.I don't expect him to be amazing, but I wouldn't be surprised if he out performs Joffrey Ericsson. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jiggy 5 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 RevolvingPrawn said: Jiggy said: Lotterer apparently is a good developer, so they're looking for his feedback.Could've just asked Nick Heidfeld, but whatever. Also, Spa is one of the joker races, this is basically throwing a race away, because there is no way Lotterer is going to perform. Lotterer has been driving Super Formula cars in Japan for years, and considering how slow the Caterham is it won't be that big of a jump for him. And don't forget that the man is a 3x Le Mans winner in a car that has a higher top speed than the Caterham.I don't expect him to be amazing, but I wouldn't be surprised if he out performs Joffrey Ericsson. None of that sounds all too helpful to me in terms of usability in Formula One-racing tbh. Especially when it's harder than ever to just jump into a F1-car and start racing. 2009 had the famous case of Badoer, but also Fisichella, who was an active GP-racer, was miles off the pace when he jumped into a new car mid-season. Senna had the same problem at Lotus in 2011 when he replaced Heidfeld. Even Ricciardo was way off the pace compared to freaking Liuzzi at first. And here you have a guy who hasn't been near a F1-car in 10 years. I would be surprised if he takes that Caterham within half a second from Ericsson. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RevolvingPrawn 1 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 How is Super Formula not too helpful in terms of usability? Their lap times at Suzuka are only about 6-7 seconds slower than a 2013 F1 car, so it won't be much different from going GP2 to F1.And with his Le Mans experience he'll be used to the kind of speeds they'll be hitting. The only thing that could throw him off is how fast the cars accelerate, how much they grip in the corners, and how technical they are to maintain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alonsofan46 0 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 RevolvingPrawn said: How is Super Formula not too helpful in terms of usability? Their lap times at Suzuka are only about 6-7 seconds slower than a 2013 F1 car, so it won't be much different from going GP2 to F1.And with his Le Mans experience he'll be used to the kind of speeds they'll be hitting. The only thing that could throw him off is how fast the cars accelerate, how much they grip in the corners, and how technical they are to maintain. I'm pretty confident that this years LMP1 cars are much grippier in corners than this years F1 cars , especially the Caterham , so that wouldn't be a problem. What puzzles me though ,. is that he seems to be coming in as a ''test'' driver ,but wouldn't you rather someone has already driven the car all year without the updates to test it rather than somebody who hasn't been in an F1 car in over 10 years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Liam12d 0 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 RevolvingPrawn said:I don't expect him to be amazing, but I wouldn't be surprised if he out performs Joffrey Ericsson. Ericsson is worse than Chilton. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VetteIfan 0 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 According to a newspaper in Italy, Vettel has signed a contract to drive at Mclaren next season. It says the move will be announced in Monza and he will replace Button. Italian newspapers are always a source to be suspicious of, but there's been a rumoured deal on the table from Mclaren to Vettel for some time now so it isn't a story completely out of the blue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mexicola 10 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Not going to happen. The only reason Vettel would move is if the car wasn't up to scratch, what makes him think Red Bull will do any worse than McLaren next season? He seems happy with the team, even if the car isn't exactly in a world championship winning position. McLaren aren't improving, and nothing makes me think they will improve next season (who really knows if that Honda engine is going to be much of an improvement?).Vettel is a very intelligent guy, going to McLaren would be a dumb move. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
afrodude41 0 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Isn't Vettel contracted to Red Bull till the end of 2015 anyway. Unlikely to leave before then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
APR193 0 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 afrodude41 said: Isn't Vettel contracted to Red Bull till the end of 2015 anyway. Unlikely to leave before then. I don't think it will happen but that's not because of the contract he has. Contracts are full of get out clauses and don't really mean an awful lot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moderator MBKF1 91 Posted August 20, 2014 Moderator Share Posted August 20, 2014 As Mexi said, Vettel would surely be mad to go to McLaren. Unless he sees Honda as an amazing new force in F1 which will make him dominate! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alonsofan46 0 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 PeteTheDuck said: As Mexi said, Vettel would surely be mad to go to McLaren. Unless he sees Honda as an amazing new force in F1 which will make him dominate! He's probably realised that he's never going to beat Ricciardo and wants to keep his reputation and ego intact. ;) :p Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenColt 1 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 VetteIfan said: According to a newspaper in Italy, Vettel has signed a contract to drive at Mclaren next season. It says the move will be announced in Monza and he will replace Button. Italian newspapers are always a source to be suspicious of, but there's been a rumoured deal on the table from Mclaren to Vettel for some time now so it isn't a story completely out of the blue. I can only repeat myself. If this is true: YOLO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moderator MBKF1 91 Posted August 20, 2014 Moderator Share Posted August 20, 2014 And on Verstappen, I couldn't believe it when I first read it. A driver in F1 who is younger than me? Wow.Yes Max has the talent, but what about Sainz Jr and Alex Lynn who have been overlooked. Sainz is doing an incredible job in F3.5, the same with Lynn in GP3. Seems very silly to me by Red Bull. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenColt 1 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 PeteTheDuck said: And on Verstappen, I couldn't believe it when I first read it. A driver in F1 who is younger than me? Wow.Yes Max has the talent, but what about Sainz Jr and Alex Lynn who have been overlooked. Sainz is doing an incredible job in F3.5, the same with Lynn in GP3. Seems very silly to me by Red Bull. He's currently 7 years younger than me. I feel crappy about that somehow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
buttonfan 5 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 GoldenColt said: PeteTheDuck said: And on Verstappen, I couldn't believe it when I first read it. A driver in F1 who is younger than me? Wow.Yes Max has the talent, but what about Sainz Jr and Alex Lynn who have been overlooked. Sainz is doing an incredible job in F3.5, the same with Lynn in GP3. Seems very silly to me by Red Bull. He's currently 7 years younger than me. I feel crappy about that somehow. Ahhh, he will always be 7 years younger than you :pPeteTheDuck said: And on Verstappen, I couldn't believe it when I first read it. A driver in F1 who is younger than me? Wow.Yes Max has the talent, but what about Sainz Jr and Alex Lynn who have been overlooked. Sainz is doing an incredible job in F3.5, the same with Lynn in GP3. Seems very silly to me by Red Bull. Remember Red Bull and Mercedes were trying to get him, and what does Red Bull have that Mercedes don't? A race seat in F1 ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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