Hughesy Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I just think using Matte paint makes all the difference, love the Red Bull even though I'm not a fan of the team (although Ricciardo won the championship I'd be really happy, not going to happen though)For me the Ferrari looks as good as it did in the photo shoot in terms of the colour scheme, but man that nose is ugly. It looks like someone who's done too much coke which has eaten it away and left a little stub :joy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liaveil Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I hope either Mclaren or Renault update their livery or it might get confusing telling which one is which. Then there's STR deciding to make it even more difficult to tell by turning up with the same livery. Perhaps the black paint is on offer somewhere at the moment. Paint one car, get the second done for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator f1since08 Posted February 23, 2016 Author Moderator Share Posted February 23, 2016 Wynterdust said: I hope either Mclaren or Renault update their livery or it might get confusing telling which one is which. Then there's STR deciding to make it even more difficult to tell by turning up with the same livery. Perhaps the black paint is on offer somewhere at the moment. Paint one car, get the second done for free. Toro Rosso are getting their livery at the next test. Renault are rumoured to be adding more yellow at Melbourne too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator f1since08 Posted February 23, 2016 Author Moderator Share Posted February 23, 2016 We finally have a working qualifying format, so it makes sense that it is changed for this season: http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-teams-agree-elimination-style-qualifying-for-2016-675278/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APR193 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 F1 introducing ballast, especially in the form they are planning to, is another nail in the coffin for me. They just don't seem to understand what their problems are, and why fans are slowly fading away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenColt Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 The ballast thing didn't go through though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liaveil Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 That new qualifying system proposal sounds just awful...Hope that doesn't go through. Of all the things that needs fixing, qualifying is one of the few that doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolvingPrawn Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I can definitely see slower/eliminated cars holding up or accidentally blocking cars on fast laps becoming way more of an issue with a system like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadwick8505 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Seriously why change the qualifying format? It actually works.F1: If it ain't broke... We should fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APR193 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 GoldenColt said: The ballast thing didn't go through though. You're right, I read the article wrong. The fact it was even considered is a bit embarrassing though. And the new format would just be overcomplicated, pointless and potentially confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadwick8505 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 None of it "technically" has been confirmed as far as I understand. The Motor Sport Council still has to approve them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VetteIfan Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Whoever first came up with the concept of success ballast in any kind of motorsport deserves to be forced to watch the 2010 Bahrain GP on repeat for the rest of their lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowKeyRacer Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Success ballast is o.k for amateur racing series as a low cost way to balance performance rather than costly & time consuming scrutineering but not for top level motorsport. I think Donald Trump should take over F1 if the presidency doesn't work out. He couldn't be any crazier than the people in charge now. Changing qualifying is so far away from what needs addressing in F1. :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggy Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 LowKeyRacer said: Success ballast is o.k for amateur racing series as a low cost way to balance performance rather than costly & time consuming scrutineering but not for top level motorsport. I think Donald Trump should take over F1 if the presidency doesn't work out. He couldn't be any crazier than the people in charge now. Changing qualifying is so far away from what needs addressing in F1. :o He would probably kick Perez and Gutierrez out of F1 immediately though.And Kyvat of course, for being a commie red bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Laziness x1000000 :joy: :flushed: https://twitter.com/rachelbrookestv/status/702420490648993792 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolvingPrawn Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 VetteIfan said: Whoever first came up with the concept of success ballast in any kind of motorsport deserves to be forced to watch the 2010 Bahrain GP on repeat for the rest of their lives. I liked Bahrain 2010 :* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttonfan Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 RevolvingPrawn said: I can definitely see slower/eliminated cars holding up or accidentally blocking cars on fast laps becoming way more of an issue with a system like that. Imagine Monaco... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VetteIfan Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Now that we've finished the first test, I think it's a good time to play the good old "Predict the pecking order based on little to no evidence" game. 1) Mercedes2) Ferrari3) Williams4) Force India5) Toro Rosso6) Red Bull7) McLaren8) Haas9) Renault10) Sauber11) ManorIt's difficult to judge Mercedes given they've really chased reliability all week and not speed, but I predict they still have an advantage. Same to an extent with Ferrari, they've put the ultrasofts and supersofts on a few times but a lot of that car is still in 2015 spec so I expect their true performance next week. Force India vs Williams should be a great battle this season. Toro Rosso chassis looks amazing again, and as I sort of predicted last season it looks as though the 2015 Ferrari PU is ahead of the 2016 Renault PU, so I think they have a real chance of beating Red Bull. Meanwhile McLaren still clearly have reliability issues and are still well down in the speed traps. Looks as though they might've closed in on Renault though, who seem to be pretty much stationary in the development "race". And credit where it is due, Haas have had a very solid opening test, both with reliability and pace. An entirely different proposition from the new teams of 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadwick8505 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I'd agree with most of that order. Mercedes is clearly ahead still. The fact that they can run those kind of distances means it's a bullet proof car and they know speed will be there. Ferrari I think have made a huge step forward and I think there should be some good battles. Willians, FI, RB, and TR should be a good battle. I think Haas is right behind them with McLaren and Renault. I'd probably give an edge to Haas but it'll be a good battle. And if Haas does beat them it will be really embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexicola Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 VetteIfan said:1) Mercedes2) Ferrari3) Williams4) Force India5) Toro Rosso6) Red Bull7) McLaren8) Haas9) Sauber10) Manor11) Renault FIFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolvingPrawn Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Mexicola said: VetteIfan said:1) Mercedes2) Ferrari3) Williams4) Force India5) Toro Rosso6) Red Bull7) McLaren8) Haas9) Sauber10) Manor11) Renault FIFY Renault has a secret weapon though.No one will care what position they're in when they have that standing in their garage to distract the cameras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenColt Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Mexicola said: VetteIfan said:1) Mercedes2) Ferrari3) Williams4) Force India5) Toro Rosso6) Red Bull7) McLaren8) Haas9) Sauber10) Manor11) Renault FIFY FIFY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexicola Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 GoldenColt said: Mexicola said: VetteIfan said:1) Hamilton2) Ferrari3) Williams4) Force India5) Toro Rosso6) Red Bull7) McLaren8) Haas9) Sauber10) Manor11) Renault FIFY FIFY. FIFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachelm Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Hughesy said: Laziness x1000000 :joy: :flushed: https://twitter.com/rachelbrookestv/status/702420490648993792 Saw this the other day!Definitely one way to walk your dog.... although the poor thing looks like he's about to collapse :neutral: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolvingPrawn Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Rachelm said: Hughesy said: Laziness x1000000 :joy: :flushed: https://twitter.com/rachelbrookestv/status/702420490648993792 Saw this the other day!Definitely one way to walk your dog.... although the poor thing looks like he's about to collapse :neutral: Those dogs always look like that :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 RevolvingPrawn said: Rachelm said: Hughesy said: Laziness x1000000 :joy: :flushed: https://twitter.com/rachelbrookestv/status/702420490648993792 Saw this the other day!Definitely one way to walk your dog.... although the poor thing looks like he's about to collapse :neutral: Those dogs always look like that :p I thought he was on about Hamilton :joy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator f1since08 Posted February 27, 2016 Author Moderator Share Posted February 27, 2016 Bernie has said the new qualy format will come into effect at the Spanish Grand Prix.Welcome back to 2005 where we revert back to the old one late in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggy Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 A mid-season overhaul in the quali-system. Formula One. If there is a term for continuously watching a product that you absolutely hate, I'd love to start using it more in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator f1since08 Posted February 27, 2016 Author Moderator Share Posted February 27, 2016 Jiggy said: A mid-season overhaul in the quali-system. Formula One. If there is a term for continuously watching a product that you absolutely hate, I'd love to start using it more in the future. There is. Formula One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 So instead of making things simple but enjoyable, they are making it complicated and stupid. I swear like my dad Bernie has Alzheimer's, as some of the things he comes out with are very much things my dad would say :# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VetteIfan Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Mexicola said: GoldenColt said: Mexicola said: VetteIfan said:1) Hamilton2) Ferrari3) Williams4) Force India5) Toro Rosso6) Red Bull7) McLaren8) Haas9) Sauber10) Manor11) Renault FIFY FIFY. FIFY Surprised that you guys are so quick to write off this year's championship. Ferrari were only 0.35 a lap off in race trim at Abu Dhabi towards the end of last season (in the hands of their slower driver), and only 0.2 off in Brazil. And now with a new car with what they call themselves a radical concept, you think that gap is going to have increased by so much? Mercedes have shown they're (very) reliable so far, which isn't exactly a shocker considering it's an evolutionary update of an already very reliable car. Pace wise we have no idea of anything, yet. Especially considering that both teams are nowhere near their Melbourne spec cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator f1since08 Posted February 27, 2016 Author Moderator Share Posted February 27, 2016 The new qualifying system might work with the harder tyres in 2017. On a track like Mexico though where everyone will run ultrasofts, it isn't going to do anything as the tyre will be dead after one lap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 And tight tracks are going to be a nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VetteIfan Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 fIsince08 said: The new qualifying system might work with the harder tyres in 2017. On a track like Mexico though where everyone will run ultrasofts, it isn't going to do anything as the tyre will be dead after one lap. I have a feeling the hard tyres are going to become almost obsolete this season, other than at really high degradation tracks like Sepang. With two other compounds to choose from now they're just gonna be too slow to justify using, and if they're one of the compounds put aside by Pirelli for the race I'm pretty sure most teams will go for the other obligated compound. As as a side note, now that there's 3 different tyre compounds at each weekend, does anyone have any idea what they are going to call the tyres at each race? Option, Prime and... SuperPrime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couger1981 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 VetteIfan said: fIsince08 said: The new qualifying system might work with the harder tyres in 2017. On a track like Mexico though where everyone will run ultrasofts, it isn't going to do anything as the tyre will be dead after one lap. I have a feeling the hard tyres are going to become almost obsolete this season, other than at really high degradation tracks like Sepang. With two other compounds to choose from now they're just gonna be too slow to justify using, and if they're one of the compounds put aside by Pirelli for the race I'm pretty sure most teams will go for the other obligated compound. As as a side note, now that there's 3 different tyre compounds at each weekend, does anyone have any idea what they are going to call the tyres at each race? Option, Prime and... SuperPrime? Thought their calling it Ultrasoft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VetteIfan Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 couger1981 said: VetteIfan said: fIsince08 said: The new qualifying system might work with the harder tyres in 2017. On a track like Mexico though where everyone will run ultrasofts, it isn't going to do anything as the tyre will be dead after one lap. I have a feeling the hard tyres are going to become almost obsolete this season, other than at really high degradation tracks like Sepang. With two other compounds to choose from now they're just gonna be too slow to justify using, and if they're one of the compounds put aside by Pirelli for the race I'm pretty sure most teams will go for the other obligated compound. As as a side note, now that there's 3 different tyre compounds at each weekend, does anyone have any idea what they are going to call the tyres at each race? Option, Prime and... SuperPrime? Thought their calling it Ultrasoft? No you misunderstood. What I mean is under the new tyre rules they're going to be taking 3 types of tyre compound to each race, instead of 2. In the past the softer of the two tyres was referred to as "option" and the harder of the two tyres was referred to as "prime" at a race weekend. Now there's 3 tyre compounds at each weekend I don't know what they're going to call the third type of tyre. It's not really an important question, just something that came to my head when thinking about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syn Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 is anyone running a Badger GP league this year? Or interested in joining one? http://badgergp.com/fantasygp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggy Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 What;s that all about? Like a F1 Fantasy PL or someting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syn Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Jiggy said: What;s that all about? Like a F1 Fantasy PL or someting? Something like that. I know we have the F1 prediction game on here, but I was thinking we could also do something on the Badger site as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggy Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Yeah, fine by me. Got to keep the fun in F1 somehow this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syn Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Jiggy said: Yeah, fine by me. Got to keep the fun in F1 somehow this season. Just made the league: http://badgergp.com/fantasygp/friends/Passcode is 1276176 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolvingPrawn Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 New Sauber: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator MBKF1 Posted February 29, 2016 Moderator Share Posted February 29, 2016 wowow . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VetteIfan Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 SynGamer said: Jiggy said: Yeah, fine by me. Got to keep the fun in F1 somehow this season. Just made the league: http://badgergp.com/fantasygp/friends/Passcode is 1276176 Count me in. Hopefully some more people sign up, looks pretty fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttonfan Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 VetteIfan said: SynGamer said: Jiggy said: Yeah, fine by me. Got to keep the fun in F1 somehow this season. Just made the league: http://badgergp.com/fantasygp/friends/Passcode is 1276176 Count me in. Hopefully some more people sign up, looks pretty fun. Is this a game like the one Autosport has? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syn Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 VetteIfan said: SynGamer said: Jiggy said: Yeah, fine by me. Got to keep the fun in F1 somehow this season. Just made the league: http://badgergp.com/fantasygp/friends/Passcode is 1276176 Count me in. Hopefully some more people sign up, looks pretty fun. We still have some time to spread the word. Kind of hoping other people in the prediction game join. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couger1981 Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Toro Rosso unveils their 2016 livery.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APR193 Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 couger1981 said: Toro Rosso unveils their 2016 livery.... And their 2015 livery, and their 2014 livery, and their 2013 livery....and their 2017 livery... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolvingPrawn Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 They must have gotten a cheap bulk deal on that bull sticker back in 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjsharp2010 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Chadwick8505 said: Seriously why change the qualifying format? It actually works.F1: If it ain't broke... We should fix it. Agreed it's kind of made me think the fact I can't watch it on Sky any more slightly more as F1 is going down the pan a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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