GoldenColt 1 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I can live with 10 proper and well prepared overtakes per race. Don't need 80 artificial, DRS-assisted ones. But I understand those who want more. Even though I never understood how one car passing another like taking candy from a baby is more exciting than 2 or more drivers stalking each other for a few laps before finally going for that risky move which might or might not work out. Maybe it's because I was used to that from the late 90's onwards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alonsofan46 0 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Chadwick8505 said: To each his own. I think looking at F1 for only the sounds is even more narrow than looking at it for the tech. Yes for me it's all about the tech and the racing. And currently we have pretty good racing and fast cars. The reason why 2014 is only marginally slower than 2013 isn't due to the engine at all. I has to do with the aero and fuel restrictions. (which I think are stupid). But can you tell me what these engines have done except push 2 teams out of the sport and remove the noise ? F1 isn't even the most technologically advanced form of motorsport. The WEC is doing a better job at that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moderator f1since08 110 Posted December 12, 2014 Author Moderator Share Posted December 12, 2014 alonsofan46 said: Chadwick8505 said: To each his own. I think looking at F1 for only the sounds is even more narrow than looking at it for the tech. Yes for me it's all about the tech and the racing. And currently we have pretty good racing and fast cars. The reason why 2014 is only marginally slower than 2013 isn't due to the engine at all. I has to do with the aero and fuel restrictions. (which I think are stupid). But can you tell me what these engines have done except push 2 teams out of the sport and remove the noise ? F1 isn't even the most technologically advanced form of motorsport. The WEC is doing a better job at that. I'd argue it's Ecclestone's money distribution that's the problem, not the engines tbh. And most of WEC's tech came from F1. Williams sold their flywheel KERS to Porsche. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chadwick8505 0 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 alonsofan46 said: Chadwick8505 said: To each his own. I think looking at F1 for only the sounds is even more narrow than looking at it for the tech. Yes for me it's all about the tech and the racing. And currently we have pretty good racing and fast cars. The reason why 2014 is only marginally slower than 2013 isn't due to the engine at all. I has to do with the aero and fuel restrictions. (which I think are stupid). But can you tell me what these engines have done except push 2 teams out of the sport and remove the noise ? F1 isn't even the most technologically advanced form of motorsport. The WEC is doing a better job at that. Definitely not just the engines that pushed two teams out. Money distribution and poor funding to begin with had a lot more to do with them folding than the engines. And yeah WEC are doing a much better job at it than F1... but they certainly aren't reverting back to old engines. This year WEC has been just as, if not more, interesting than F1 and I expect that to continue if F1 doesn't do something. But that something isn't going back to an outdated formula. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AMSKRR 3 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I do love the sound of the V8's but during the race at Silverstone this year I didn't stand there thinking about sound to be honest. I'd rather have Mercedes, Renault and Honda in the sport than V8's back really. In some ways it was quite nice to hear the crowd during the races due to lower engine noise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moderator f1since08 110 Posted December 13, 2014 Author Moderator Share Posted December 13, 2014 One more thing, it's the high engine development costs that are the cause of the engine prices. If we design more new engines, the price will be higher as there will be two engine developments to pay for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
couger1981 94 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Ecclestone is trying to push for the return of the v8 or v10 so i guess he doesn't like the new sound aswell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MATT 23 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
buttonfan 5 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Ι'll be honest with you, I'm not 100% sure whether he's serious or trolling :p Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moderator f1since08 110 Posted December 13, 2014 Author Moderator Share Posted December 13, 2014 What a lad :p Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Codemasters Staff Britpoint 4 Posted December 13, 2014 Codemasters Staff Share Posted December 13, 2014 I wonder why we can't have the same kind of technology with engines that would still make "dat noise". Why not chuck twin turbos on a V12? That would be something to see! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Moderator f1since08 110 Posted December 14, 2014 Author Moderator Share Posted December 14, 2014 Britpoint said: I wonder why we can't have the same kind of technology with engines that would still make "dat noise". Why not chuck twin turbos on a V12? That would be something to see! It's because of the fuel restrictions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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GoldenColt 1 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
buttonfan 5 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Now this is weird Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RevolvingPrawn 1 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Jenson in the McLaren Honda team kit already. Max looks a little older than he did a few days ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenColt 1 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I was about to say that. :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RevolvingPrawn 1 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Anybody voting Hamilton for Sports Personality of the Year? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moderator MBKF1 91 Posted December 14, 2014 Moderator Share Posted December 14, 2014 RevolvingPrawn said: Anybody voting Hamilton for Sports Personality of the Year? I would but I don't wanna phone up/text and you need a BBC ID to do it online. Can someone else make a vote for him for me please? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RevolvingPrawn 1 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 You know a BBC ID is free right? :p Takes like a minute to make one. Too late now anyway, voting has closed, and because no one cares abour F1 he probably won't win :( Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moderator MBKF1 91 Posted December 14, 2014 Moderator Share Posted December 14, 2014 RevolvingPrawn said: You know a BBC ID is free right? :p Takes like a minute to make one. Too late now anyway, voting has closed, and because no one cares abour F1 he probably won't win :( Yeah but, I can't be bothered to do most things aha :p I really hope he wins, about time we had an F1 winner again! He deserves it in my opinion, obviously! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RevolvingPrawn 1 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 PeteTheDuck said: RevolvingPrawn said: You know a BBC ID is free right? :p Takes like a minute to make one. Too late now anyway, voting has closed, and because no one cares abour F1 he probably won't win :( Yeah but, I can't be bothered to do most things aha :p I really hope he wins, about time we had an F1 winner again! He deserves it in my opinion, obviously! Oh yea for sure he does, but the average person in the UK thinks F1 is stupid, or boring. The amount of times I've tried to talk to people about F1 and for them to say something along the lines of "But they just go around in circles" is annoying. Like my mum was over earlier while I was watching Race of Champions, and she said "Can we watch something else? This is really boring." To which I replied "Yea well I find Strictly Come Dancing, The Apprentice, and X-Factor boring but I don't complain when I'm at yours and you're bloody watching them" :p And that's why Hamilton won't win. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alonsofan46 0 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 It really doesn't matter though. Most of the people voting don't have a clue about F1 or even the other sports. If F1 had as big a fan base as the other sports like golf and football , then he'd stand a much better chance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RevolvingPrawn 1 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 No way! He frigging won it! :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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