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Eurgh. I like Hulk and he's a great driver, but we're talking about the same Hulk who has had trouble dealing with Perez over the past few years, right? That doesn't bode well for being a teammate to Lewis. 

Ricciardo would be an amazing choice, but there's 0% chance of that happening. You should fire the "source" that told you that Chris. 
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It is a stunning track to look at visually, I think Abu Dhabi nicked their idea of the blue lines for the run off areas!

Obviously the track is up to spec, but I would assume they will have to re-work the pit lane and paddock slightly. As far as I can remember, it's quite a narrow pit lane at the moment, and I don't think it's particularly long either, so maybe they'll do something about that in time for 2018.
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MBKF1 said:
It is a stunning track to look at visually, I think Abu Dhabi nicked their idea of the blue lines for the run off areas!

Obviously the track is up to spec, but I would assume they will have to re-work the pit lane and paddock slightly. As far as I can remember, it's quite a narrow pit lane at the moment, and I don't think it's particularly long either, so maybe they'll do something about that in time for 2018.
Plus they practically have zero capacity for the fans :p It became mostly a test track a fair while back now so I don't think there's many, if any, grandstands atm lol.
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Plus they practically have zero capacity for the fans :p It became mostly a test track a fair while back now so I don't think there's many, if any, grandstands atm lol.
You're right, I don't think there is a single one at the moment! Looking at the aerial view though I'd say there's definitely space already to pop a few in, so I can't imagine it'll be too much of an issue getting them in.
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I think you're right, yes. Bit of a weird situation! I really hope they do use the full straight. I know it would be about 1.6km long (which is bloody massive), but putting the chicane in would be awful.

I hope they'd use this configuration, just whacked it together on RouteBuilder

http://routebuilder.org/20mh
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MBKF1 said:
I think you're right, yes. Bit of a weird situation! I really hope they do use the full straight. I know it would be about 1.6km long (which is bloody massive), but putting the chicane in would be awful.

I hope they'd use this configuration, just whacked it together on RouteBuilder

http://routebuilder.org/20mh
So basically the original layout? :p I'm not a fan of the 1.6km straight, mainly because the corner at the end of it is a single line no overtaking right hander. There's no point in such a long straight without having a sharper corner with a heavy braking zone at the end of it.

So this is the layout I'd go for, make the first chicane tighter for more action at the start, and I'd add the corners I chose in the middle of the straight because the first left hander is more likely to generate a move down the inside, which would then become the outside, then the inside again, then the outside again lol. It's more likely to create actual overtakes than one car breezing past another with DRS and a super long straight, which sucks.

http://routebuilder.org/20ml

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For my big essay project I have to do over Christmas, I've decided to write about the advertising in Formula 1, and the commercial aspects of it.

Obviously I've got some ideas already, but in case I've forgotten anything, do any of you think of anything in particular when it comes to advertising in F1? Anything in detail that comes under these kind of bullet points for example...

- FOM TV coverage (CGI adverts, how the shots are directed to include adverts where possible, etc)
- Famous F1 sponsors past / present (Rolex, Fosters, RBS, Emirates, Bridgestone, Heineken, etc)
- Famous F1 team sponsors past / present (Marlboro, Red Bull, Benson & Hedges, 7up, Vodafone, etc)
- Advertising techniques (Red Bull show runs, McLaren Santander adverts, competitions, etc)
- Circuit identity (Abu Dhabi sea blue run offs, COTA red outlines, Bahrain colourful swirls on run offs, etc)

Literally anything you can think of, big or small, post it here and it may set off a spark of ideas for me!
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You might want to look at the differences between F1 coverage in Europe compared to USA. The US has a TON of commerical breaks during the race which can be really illtimed and sometimes they come after only a few laps. 

You mignt also also want to look at it being broadcasted on almost exclusively paid tv channels. And how advertising and subscriptions are balanced or not. 
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When you say circuit identity, do you also mean things like the Silverstone wing or Ferrari World? Things dotted around the circuit? @MBKF1
Yep, things like that are perfect, thanks
You might want to look at the differences between F1 coverage in Europe compared to USA. The US has a TON of commerical breaks during the race which can be really illtimed and sometimes they come after only a few laps. 

You mignt also also want to look at it being broadcasted on almost exclusively paid tv channels. And how advertising and subscriptions are balanced or not. 
Thanks man, all great ideas, really appreciate it.
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Paddy Lowe is rumored to be leaving Mercedes and Ferrari are rumoured to be signing him...

And now one day later:

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mercedes-f1-tech-chief-lowe-set-for-shock-williams-switch-858449/

Yet again, you really need to check your sources Mr Monsieur. 

It's funny how things come around though, this is literally the Red Bull story all over again. A new team at the top that beats everyone for years, before they rapidly disband in a short space of time. The second driver retires, the head guru gets bored and steps back from his role/moves on. Now just Lewis to Ferrari in 2018 to complete the process. 
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fIsince08 said:
Paddy Lowe is rumored to be leaving Mercedes and Ferrari are rumoured to be signing him...
It's funny how things come around though, this is literally the Red Bull story all over again. A new team at the top that beats everyone for years, before they rapidly disband in a short space of time. The second driver retires, the head guru gets bored and steps back from his role/moves on. Now just Lewis to Ferrari in 2018 to complete the process. 
Do you know what, I would not be surprised in the slightest if that happens.

As you say, a team's success never lasts forever, and it's usually about 3-5 years before they start to crumble. I am in no doubt that Lewis will be thinking heavily about this and he'll be at another team by 2019, if not 2018, if Mercedes happen to have a particularly weak 2017.

And I am 99% sure that team will be Ferrari. Red Bull seemingly isn't an option due to their young driver programme, so possibly McLaren if they finally get their act together, but I think Ferrari will be the one.

Everyone thought Lewis was mad to leave McLaren for Mercedes, but it turned out to be the best move of recent times. People would say exactly the same if he moved to Ferrari, but the very same thing could definitely happen.

If, and this is a big if, Lewis does go to Ferrari and has another 2-3 years of dominance then it'll be another complete master stroke. Total opposite to Fernando Alonso for example, who left McLaren at their most recent peak, then joined Ferrari just as Red Bull started to win everything, and then back to McLaren, just as they entered their worst period in over 30 years.
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I'm not so sure about Mercedes losing their edge that soon. Paddy "might" be off to another team, but it seems like James Allison would replace him in such a scenario. Plus, the key personnel responsible for the development of the car is still bound to stay for a further few years.

I'm not writing Mercedes off just yet.
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VetteIfan said:
fIsince08 said:
Paddy Lowe is rumored to be leaving Mercedes and Ferrari are rumoured to be signing him...

And now one day later:

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mercedes-f1-tech-chief-lowe-set-for-shock-williams-switch-858449/

Yet again, you really need to check your sources Mr Monsieur. 

It's funny how things come around though, this is literally the Red Bull story all over again. A new team at the top that beats everyone for years, before they rapidly disband in a short space of time. The second driver retires, the head guru gets bored and steps back from his role/moves on. Now just Lewis to Ferrari in 2018 to complete the process. 
Oi, it was half right!
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I'm not so sure about Mercedes losing their edge that soon. Paddy "might" be off to another team, but it seems like James Allison would replace him in such a scenario. Plus, the key personnel responsible for the development of the car is still bound to stay for a further few years.

I'm not writing Mercedes off just yet.
True, it would be foolish to write them off. They have experience, excellent staff, and lots and lots of money.
Then again, when we saw a similar rule change in 2009, the old top dogs, McLaren and Ferrari, were nowhere to be found near the top.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/38282791

Interesting developments
Along with Wehrlein the most obvious choice. The most exciting choices (Ricciardo, Alonso, Sainz) are all unlikely due to contracts and 2007 championship year.
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If Bottas does go to Mercedes then he's going to need to step up his game a lot. I mean against Massa who hasn't been the same since 08 what has he done. All this hype about him, but really he hasn't shown anything. Isn't Toto his agent or something, surely that's going to cause a conflict of interest and increase the crazy conspiracies :joy:
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