Hughesy Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 You lot are all wrong, this is the replacement and he deserves it after how long he's been karting https://twitter.com/JonnyGabriel/status/804782027400744961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolvingPrawn Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status/804713093410541568https://twitter.com/Max33Verstappen/status/804715781753884672https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status/804717777336537088https://twitter.com/Max33Verstappen/status/804720896367849476https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status/804724300230049792https://twitter.com/C4F1/status/804771392961003520 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexicola Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 bant/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator f1since08 Posted December 4, 2016 Author Moderator Share Posted December 4, 2016 Apparently Merc approached Renault over signing Hulkenberg. He wants to go but the team aren't letting him. The other contenders are Alonso, Ricciardo and Werhlein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggy Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 I'd love to see Hulk at Mercedes. If he still is unable to score a podium, then just retire mid-season so that Wehrlein can jump in anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VetteIfan Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Eurgh. I like Hulk and he's a great driver, but we're talking about the same Hulk who has had trouble dealing with Perez over the past few years, right? That doesn't bode well for being a teammate to Lewis. Ricciardo would be an amazing choice, but there's 0% chance of that happening. You should fire the "source" that told you that Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexicola Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Bottas --> MercedesWehrlein --> WilliamsKing --> ManorYou heard it here first lads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggy Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Is Jordan King also one of those young boring average Brit with rich dad-type like Palmer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMSKRR Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 I'd love to see Ricciardo smash Lewis and take the title :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenColt Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 As long as he doesn't smash him Vettel2014-style. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 The problem with Ricciardo is he's impossible to hate because of that smile, so even if he beat Hamilton I wouldn't be down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexicola Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Jiggy said: Is Jordan King also one of those young boring average Brit with rich dad-type like Palmer? Palmer's dad was an F1 driver. King's dad owned Sainsbury's, which is one of my favourite background facts about an F1 driver ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice29 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Jiggy said: Is Jordan King also one of those young boring average Brit with rich dad-type like Palmer? Yeah...his dad was CEO of Sainsbury's a few years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolvingPrawn Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Hell yes, France has a GP again at Paul Ricard :)http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/french-gp-return-at-paul-ricard-confirmed-857043/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenColt Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 You sure that's not Austin?............................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolvingPrawn Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 GoldenColt said: You sure that's not Austin?............................................... Austin copied Paul Ricard's paint job :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggy Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Never liked Paul Ricard as a track, so.....meh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator MBKF1 Posted December 5, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 5, 2016 It is a stunning track to look at visually, I think Abu Dhabi nicked their idea of the blue lines for the run off areas!Obviously the track is up to spec, but I would assume they will have to re-work the pit lane and paddock slightly. As far as I can remember, it's quite a narrow pit lane at the moment, and I don't think it's particularly long either, so maybe they'll do something about that in time for 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolvingPrawn Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 MBKF1 said: It is a stunning track to look at visually, I think Abu Dhabi nicked their idea of the blue lines for the run off areas!Obviously the track is up to spec, but I would assume they will have to re-work the pit lane and paddock slightly. As far as I can remember, it's quite a narrow pit lane at the moment, and I don't think it's particularly long either, so maybe they'll do something about that in time for 2018. Plus they practically have zero capacity for the fans :p It became mostly a test track a fair while back now so I don't think there's many, if any, grandstands atm lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator MBKF1 Posted December 5, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 5, 2016 RevolvingPrawn said: Plus they practically have zero capacity for the fans :p It became mostly a test track a fair while back now so I don't think there's many, if any, grandstands atm lol. You're right, I don't think there is a single one at the moment! Looking at the aerial view though I'd say there's definitely space already to pop a few in, so I can't imagine it'll be too much of an issue getting them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator f1since08 Posted December 5, 2016 Author Moderator Share Posted December 5, 2016 Doesn't Bernie own it? Is he paying himself to host the race? Also I wonder if they use the full back straight, what was the testing layout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator MBKF1 Posted December 5, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 5, 2016 I think you're right, yes. Bit of a weird situation! I really hope they do use the full straight. I know it would be about 1.6km long (which is bloody massive), but putting the chicane in would be awful.I hope they'd use this configuration, just whacked it together on RouteBuilderhttp://routebuilder.org/20mh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolvingPrawn Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 MBKF1 said: I think you're right, yes. Bit of a weird situation! I really hope they do use the full straight. I know it would be about 1.6km long (which is bloody massive), but putting the chicane in would be awful.I hope they'd use this configuration, just whacked it together on RouteBuilderhttp://routebuilder.org/20mh So basically the original layout? :p I'm not a fan of the 1.6km straight, mainly because the corner at the end of it is a single line no overtaking right hander. There's no point in such a long straight without having a sharper corner with a heavy braking zone at the end of it.So this is the layout I'd go for, make the first chicane tighter for more action at the start, and I'd add the corners I chose in the middle of the straight because the first left hander is more likely to generate a move down the inside, which would then become the outside, then the inside again, then the outside again lol. It's more likely to create actual overtakes than one car breezing past another with DRS and a super long straight, which sucks.http://routebuilder.org/20ml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 This would be sensational, it would then maybe mean Button would race for McLaren next season http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/38219533 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couger1981 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Old footage of Paul Ricardhttps://vimeo.com/139155611 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Doh https://twitter.com/f1fanatic_co_uk/status/806869696238583808 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Very good program on at the moment on Sky F1 about Rosberg and what Mercedes should/could do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImDyingYouIdiot Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCKz7ZYSp4MCome on Mercedes! You know you want him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 GP2 engine, not sure Mercedes would want the hassle, but I'd love a Hamilton Alonso rivalry again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator MBKF1 Posted December 9, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 9, 2016 For my big essay project I have to do over Christmas, I've decided to write about the advertising in Formula 1, and the commercial aspects of it.Obviously I've got some ideas already, but in case I've forgotten anything, do any of you think of anything in particular when it comes to advertising in F1? Anything in detail that comes under these kind of bullet points for example...- FOM TV coverage (CGI adverts, how the shots are directed to include adverts where possible, etc)- Famous F1 sponsors past / present (Rolex, Fosters, RBS, Emirates, Bridgestone, Heineken, etc)- Famous F1 team sponsors past / present (Marlboro, Red Bull, Benson & Hedges, 7up, Vodafone, etc)- Advertising techniques (Red Bull show runs, McLaren Santander adverts, competitions, etc)- Circuit identity (Abu Dhabi sea blue run offs, COTA red outlines, Bahrain colourful swirls on run offs, etc)Literally anything you can think of, big or small, post it here and it may set off a spark of ideas for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttonfan Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 WELL DONE BAKUBAKU WELCOMED US ALL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator MBKF1 Posted December 9, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 9, 2016 Ok, it is now my mission to get that into my essay!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator f1since08 Posted December 9, 2016 Author Moderator Share Posted December 9, 2016 Paddy Lowe is rumored to be leaving Mercedes and Ferrari are rumoured to be signing him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMSKRR Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 When you say circuit identity, do you also mean things like the Silverstone wing or Ferrari World? Things dotted around the circuit? @MBKF1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadwick8505 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 You might want to look at the differences between F1 coverage in Europe compared to USA. The US has a TON of commerical breaks during the race which can be really illtimed and sometimes they come after only a few laps. You mignt also also want to look at it being broadcasted on almost exclusively paid tv channels. And how advertising and subscriptions are balanced or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator MBKF1 Posted December 10, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 10, 2016 AMS97KRR said: When you say circuit identity, do you also mean things like the Silverstone wing or Ferrari World? Things dotted around the circuit? @MBKF1 Yep, things like that are perfect, thanks Chadwick8505 said: You might want to look at the differences between F1 coverage in Europe compared to USA. The US has a TON of commerical breaks during the race which can be really illtimed and sometimes they come after only a few laps. You mignt also also want to look at it being broadcasted on almost exclusively paid tv channels. And how advertising and subscriptions are balanced or not. Thanks man, all great ideas, really appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenColt Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 My favorite ad ever (it's a real one):/thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator MBKF1 Posted December 10, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 10, 2016 Can't say I've ever seen that in Formula 1 before though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenColt Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 You're right, but I've seen it in MotoGP. Dunno if that makes it any better. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator MBKF1 Posted December 10, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 10, 2016 Oh wait, now I do remember seeing it in MotoGP!To be honest, my innocent 12 year old mind never understood that, hence why I never remembered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VetteIfan Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 fIsince08 said: Paddy Lowe is rumored to be leaving Mercedes and Ferrari are rumoured to be signing him... And now one day later:http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mercedes-f1-tech-chief-lowe-set-for-shock-williams-switch-858449/Yet again, you really need to check your sources Mr Monsieur. It's funny how things come around though, this is literally the Red Bull story all over again. A new team at the top that beats everyone for years, before they rapidly disband in a short space of time. The second driver retires, the head guru gets bored and steps back from his role/moves on. Now just Lewis to Ferrari in 2018 to complete the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator MBKF1 Posted December 11, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 11, 2016 VetteIfan said: fIsince08 said: Paddy Lowe is rumored to be leaving Mercedes and Ferrari are rumoured to be signing him...It's funny how things come around though, this is literally the Red Bull story all over again. A new team at the top that beats everyone for years, before they rapidly disband in a short space of time. The second driver retires, the head guru gets bored and steps back from his role/moves on. Now just Lewis to Ferrari in 2018 to complete the process. Do you know what, I would not be surprised in the slightest if that happens.As you say, a team's success never lasts forever, and it's usually about 3-5 years before they start to crumble. I am in no doubt that Lewis will be thinking heavily about this and he'll be at another team by 2019, if not 2018, if Mercedes happen to have a particularly weak 2017.And I am 99% sure that team will be Ferrari. Red Bull seemingly isn't an option due to their young driver programme, so possibly McLaren if they finally get their act together, but I think Ferrari will be the one.Everyone thought Lewis was mad to leave McLaren for Mercedes, but it turned out to be the best move of recent times. People would say exactly the same if he moved to Ferrari, but the very same thing could definitely happen.If, and this is a big if, Lewis does go to Ferrari and has another 2-3 years of dominance then it'll be another complete master stroke. Total opposite to Fernando Alonso for example, who left McLaren at their most recent peak, then joined Ferrari just as Red Bull started to win everything, and then back to McLaren, just as they entered their worst period in over 30 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenColt Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I'm not so sure about Mercedes losing their edge that soon. Paddy "might" be off to another team, but it seems like James Allison would replace him in such a scenario. Plus, the key personnel responsible for the development of the car is still bound to stay for a further few years.I'm not writing Mercedes off just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator f1since08 Posted December 11, 2016 Author Moderator Share Posted December 11, 2016 VetteIfan said: fIsince08 said: Paddy Lowe is rumored to be leaving Mercedes and Ferrari are rumoured to be signing him... And now one day later:http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mercedes-f1-tech-chief-lowe-set-for-shock-williams-switch-858449/Yet again, you really need to check your sources Mr Monsieur. It's funny how things come around though, this is literally the Red Bull story all over again. A new team at the top that beats everyone for years, before they rapidly disband in a short space of time. The second driver retires, the head guru gets bored and steps back from his role/moves on. Now just Lewis to Ferrari in 2018 to complete the process. Oi, it was half right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolvingPrawn Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Aldo Costa and Geoff Willis also designed the last 3 Merc's with Paddy Lowe, so if Lowe really does go to Williams then at least they still have 2 of the 3 brains who came up with the car :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice29 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/38282791Interesting developments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImDyingYouIdiot Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 GoldenColt said: I'm not so sure about Mercedes losing their edge that soon. Paddy "might" be off to another team, but it seems like James Allison would replace him in such a scenario. Plus, the key personnel responsible for the development of the car is still bound to stay for a further few years.I'm not writing Mercedes off just yet. True, it would be foolish to write them off. They have experience, excellent staff, and lots and lots of money.Then again, when we saw a similar rule change in 2009, the old top dogs, McLaren and Ferrari, were nowhere to be found near the top. Juice29 said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/38282791Interesting developments Along with Wehrlein the most obvious choice. The most exciting choices (Ricciardo, Alonso, Sainz) are all unlikely due to contracts and 2007 championship year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggy Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 And now L'Equipe is saying that Williams is talking with Massa about a comeback. Would probably be the worst driver package on the grid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator f1since08 Posted December 15, 2016 Author Moderator Share Posted December 15, 2016 Is it a comeback if technically you won't have left anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 If Bottas does go to Mercedes then he's going to need to step up his game a lot. I mean against Massa who hasn't been the same since 08 what has he done. All this hype about him, but really he hasn't shown anything. Isn't Toto his agent or something, surely that's going to cause a conflict of interest and increase the crazy conspiracies :joy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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