couger1981 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Looks like Gasly and Hartly are confirmed at Toro Rosso next season leaving without a Kvyat seat. Do you guys think any other team would take him this late in the year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator MBKF1 Posted October 26, 2017 Moderator Share Posted October 26, 2017 Possibly Williams, but I doubt he'll get a race seat. Maybe he'll become a team's reserve driver or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggy Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Doesn't the Martini-thing make him too young for Williams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenColt Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 But then again, he's russian. So the alcohol part should be covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggy Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 That is true. You're not Russian if you're not an alcoholic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator f1since08 Posted October 26, 2017 Author Moderator Share Posted October 26, 2017 Jiggy said: Doesn't the Martini-thing make him too young for Williams? I've heard that Martini are OK with it so long as they have at least a test driver over 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiRTKiNG808 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 That whole Martini sponsor rule seems kind of ridicules. You should consider which driver will do best for the team. Not how old they are, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadwick8505 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 DiRTKiNG808 said: That whole Martini sponsor rule seems kind of ridicules. You should consider which driver will do best for the team. Not how old they are, Ideally yes. But sponsors are only here to make money. They rather someone that can be a good representative of their brand. For an alcohol company, that isn't a 17 year old. Having someone that can sell they're brand is more important to the sponsors than just winning races. Of course there is the argument that having a winning driver sells their brand just as well. The problem with that is the likelihood of Williams (or any mid field team) being a winning team again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiRTKiNG808 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Chadwick8505 said: DiRTKiNG808 said: That whole Martini sponsor rule seems kind of ridicules. You should consider which driver will do best for the team. Not how old they are, Ideally yes. But sponsors are only here to make money. They rather someone that can be a good representative of their brand. For an alcohol company, that isn't a 17 year old. Having someone that can sell they're brand is more important to the sponsors than just winning races. Of course there is the argument that having a winning driver sells their brand just as well. The problem with that is the likelihood of Williams (or any mid field team) being a winning team again. Ya, I guess that makes sense. For Williams to win again I think the Hybrids would have to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator f1since08 Posted November 4, 2017 Author Moderator Share Posted November 4, 2017 Felipe Massa to retire at the end of the season. Again.https://twitter.com/WilliamsRacing/status/926785919172136960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator MBKF1 Posted November 4, 2017 Moderator Share Posted November 4, 2017 Please please please Williams, get Kubica in that car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggy Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 And please don't come back Massa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiRTKiNG808 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 That would be sick! Kubica in the Williams would destroy Stroll. :D It will be cool to see how next years drivers line up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couger1981 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Hugo Boss to leave F1 as a sponsor for Formula E Hugo Boss is one of those Sponsors that you remember in F1 and now it will be a shame to see the brand go. :(Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Oh no what will Hamilton advertise now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukedfrt Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 That's a big move to be fair! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggy Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Piss off Formula E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Not the first time this has happened in Brazil, organisers and teams need to do more to protect them. https://twitter.com/LewisHamilton/status/929324708453060608?s=09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiRTKiNG808 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Happy for another Ferrari win! That brings it to 5 in total this season. Huge improvement from last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Found the person responsible for the awful logo.... https://twitter.com/W2Optimism/status/934803451460104192?s=09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liaveil Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 W2Optimism? Living up to the name being optimistic that people will like the new logo. Looks like my 5 year old nieces drawing on the fridge only worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMSKRR Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 He's proud of that logo? Funniest thing I've read all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexicola Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 I think it looks class. It's like something from Wipeout. In a couple of years FEISAR and AG Systems will be juking it out for the WCC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggy Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Well, it's provocative. So they probably care more about making noise and get people talking than creating an actual good logo. Bitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiRTKiNG808 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Mexicola said: I think it looks class. It's like something from Wipeout. In a couple of years FEISAR and AG Systems will be juking it out for the WCC. I hope there are no Halo's in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggy Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 So Sauber is now Alfa Romeo Sauber. Title sponsor. Maybe this means good news for Giovinazzi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator MBKF1 Posted November 29, 2017 Moderator Share Posted November 29, 2017 Very pleased with this news, it means we should be getting two talented youngsters on the grid rather than keeping mediocre Ericsson.However, I do feel bad for Wehrlein. Yes, he didn't impress as much as he should have this year, but when you're in the slowest car out there it's hard to stand out unless you have a shock result (such as Spain).Just mad to think that Ocon is thriving at Force India and will undoubtedly be a candidate for Mercedes if either of their drivers leave. And then you have Wehrlein, who could have been that person, yet seems destined now for Formula E, I expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 If they don’t have Leclerc as a driver then they can bugger off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiRTKiNG808 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I'm hoping that Leclerc can make it all the way to Ferrari. That would awesome! I also think that Alfa would be good for the Sauber team. Things that I am not liking for next year is of course the Halo's and the 3 engine limit to me is just stupid. I think 6 power units would be perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 If he does then it will be the first time I’ve ever supported a Ferrari driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiRTKiNG808 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 What about Rubens Barrichello? A little before my time but, I think a lot of people liked him. What about you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couger1981 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Santander to leave Ferrari and F1 to focus on the UEFA champions leagueSo thats another major sponsor leaving after Hugo Boss announced their departure earlier this month.Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 DiRTKiNG808 said: What about Rubens Barrichello? A little before my time but, I think a lot of people liked him. What about you? I didn’t hate him, but didn’t support him. As a McLaren fan, my hatred grew when Schumacher joined Ferrari :joy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 couger1981 said: Santander to leave Ferrari and F1 to focus on the UEFA champions leagueSo thats another major sponsor leaving after Hugo Boss announced their departure earlier this month.Link They probably hated the idea of having their brand on a car with halo on it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiRTKiNG808 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Yup, the Halo ruins everything. Why don't the FIA listen to the drivers? The drivers hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Simply stunning, love ithttps://twitter.com/SauberF1Team/status/936914310277742593 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator MBKF1 Posted December 2, 2017 Moderator Share Posted December 2, 2017 What I don't love is that Ericsson is yet again on the grid. Disappointed, but not surprised. Could have been so exciting to have two youngsters in there with Leclerc and Giovinazzi.I just hope Leclerc whoops Ericsson's ass next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMSKRR Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Wow, I love all the hate for Ericsson from some people. Genuine hatred for someone who's cash has probably kept Sauber in the sport long enough for this to happen and give Leclerc his shot. And he isn't even that terrible, he was only just beaten by Werhlein, and importantly, he wasn't crashing into anyone, just quietly going about his business. I'm actually interested to see how he might perform in a car that can actually do something, he's had awful back markers his entire career. I'm not expecting much of course, but after this display I really hope he surprises us, somehow. And sure, I'd like to see someone with more potential in that car, but I really don't understand the vile attitude towards him from some fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggy Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Vile is an exaggeration, it's not like anyone wants him dead, it's just that Ericsson doesn't excite anybody and I personally want people in who can excite me. I do agree that it's because of Ericsson('s sponsors) that someone like Leclerc even has a spot right now, but beyond that, there's little to be thankful for.He's just a dull, completely average (in this field below average) driver who is in because of his money and who has nothing about him that hints at improvement. Filler. Nobody likes filler.Not to mention that the reason he was so close to Wehrlein at the end is in part because all the newer parts went straight to Ericsson and all the leftovers went to Wehrlein. Same happened to Nasr and then Nasr was the one to score points in Brazil. And it's frustrating when exciting talents like Giovinazzi basically has nothing going for him and we have to put up with Ericsson instead. In F1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggy Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 I hope they switch that livery up btw, shit is way too white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 They could make the side pods red or something, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Ferrari told them that was the maximum amount of red they could have :joy: Either way I like it how it is. It will look different anyway, as that isn’t a current car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMSKRR Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Jiggy said: Vile is an exaggeration, it's not like anyone wants him dead, it's just that Ericsson doesn't excite anybody and I personally want people in who can excite me. I do agree that it's because of Ericsson('s sponsors) that someone like Leclerc even has a spot right now, but beyond that, there's little to be thankful for.He's just a dull, completely average (in this field below average) driver who is in because of his money and who has nothing about him that hints at improvement. Filler. Nobody likes filler.Not to mention that the reason he was so close to Wehrlein at the end is in part because all the newer parts went straight to Ericsson and all the leftovers went to Wehrlein. Same happened to Nasr and then Nasr was the one to score points in Brazil. And it's frustrating when exciting talents like Giovinazzi basically has nothing going for him and we have to put up with Ericsson instead. In F1. Sure, nobody wants him dead but there's been some pretty harsh, rather unwarranted stuff thrown around about him.Like you said, simply put it's a boring choice, but that's no reason to be a d*** about it. I'd rather have had Gio this season to be honest, but equally I'd also rather have had 10 teams than 9! Every grid in history has had guys like Ericsson, just be thankful he isn't hitting people like Maldonado or that he is wasting a good car :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Without him there would be no Sauber, so I’m ok with it, F1 can’t afford to lose another team, as the grid is already too small in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggy Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 AMS97KRR said: Jiggy said: Vile is an exaggeration, it's not like anyone wants him dead, it's just that Ericsson doesn't excite anybody and I personally want people in who can excite me. I do agree that it's because of Ericsson('s sponsors) that someone like Leclerc even has a spot right now, but beyond that, there's little to be thankful for.He's just a dull, completely average (in this field below average) driver who is in because of his money and who has nothing about him that hints at improvement. Filler. Nobody likes filler.Not to mention that the reason he was so close to Wehrlein at the end is in part because all the newer parts went straight to Ericsson and all the leftovers went to Wehrlein. Same happened to Nasr and then Nasr was the one to score points in Brazil. And it's frustrating when exciting talents like Giovinazzi basically has nothing going for him and we have to put up with Ericsson instead. In F1. Sure, nobody wants him dead but there's been some pretty harsh, rather unwarranted stuff thrown around about him.Like you said, simply put it's a boring choice, but that's no reason to be a d*** about it. I'd rather have had Gio this season to be honest, but equally I'd also rather have had 10 teams than 9! Every grid in history has had guys like Ericsson, just be thankful he isn't hitting people like Maldonado or that he is wasting a good car :) I doubt Marcus Ericsson will be in tears over it from his F1-seat. Like I don't know what comments you're alluding to when you say he's had unwarranted stuff said in his direction, but if it's this forum, a very lazy search shows the MBK-comment as the only anti-Ericsson comment and that post in itself is hardly anything excessive. And even if it was, who cares about being a dick? It's a throwaway-comment on a throwaway-section of a forum most people use to bitch at Codemasters over whatever game they suck at. Even if he said something like Marcus Ericsson is a talentless spastic piece of shit, who cares? It has zero effect on his life. And well, you could say it affects your forum experience. But the comment wasn't excessive. So at that point, it's just making a big deal out of nothing really to take that as a vile example of pure hatred towards Ericsson and I'm just not following you on that one.It's an expression of disappointment and people should be able to express that without getting called out for no good reason really.Assuming the unwarranted stuff you're alluding to, is based on this forum, of course.About Ericsson, I really don't care about compromises or to be thankful that at least he's not this or that. On the grid, he's a waste of space. So I desire a situation where Sauber is there, but with a talented driver instead of Ericsson. That's nothing personal. That's just preferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMSKRR Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Jiggy said: AMS97KRR said: Jiggy said: Vile is an exaggeration, it's not like anyone wants him dead, it's just that Ericsson doesn't excite anybody and I personally want people in who can excite me. I do agree that it's because of Ericsson('s sponsors) that someone like Leclerc even has a spot right now, but beyond that, there's little to be thankful for.He's just a dull, completely average (in this field below average) driver who is in because of his money and who has nothing about him that hints at improvement. Filler. Nobody likes filler.Not to mention that the reason he was so close to Wehrlein at the end is in part because all the newer parts went straight to Ericsson and all the leftovers went to Wehrlein. Same happened to Nasr and then Nasr was the one to score points in Brazil. And it's frustrating when exciting talents like Giovinazzi basically has nothing going for him and we have to put up with Ericsson instead. In F1. Sure, nobody wants him dead but there's been some pretty harsh, rather unwarranted stuff thrown around about him.Like you said, simply put it's a boring choice, but that's no reason to be a d*** about it. I'd rather have had Gio this season to be honest, but equally I'd also rather have had 10 teams than 9! Every grid in history has had guys like Ericsson, just be thankful he isn't hitting people like Maldonado or that he is wasting a good car :) I doubt Marcus Ericsson will be in tears over it from his F1-seat. Like I don't know what comments you're alluding to when you say he's had unwarranted stuff said in his direction, but if it's this forum, a very lazy search shows the MBK-comment as the only anti-Ericsson comment and that post in itself is hardly anything excessive. And even if it was, who cares about being a ****? It's a throwaway-comment on a throwaway-section of a forum most people use to **** at Codemasters over whatever game they suck at. Even if he said something like Marcus Ericsson is a talentless spastic piece of ****, who cares? It has zero effect on his life. And well, you could say it affects your forum experience. But the comment wasn't excessive. So at that point, it's just making a big deal out of nothing really to take that as a vile example of pure hatred towards Ericsson and I'm just not following you on that one.It's an expression of disappointment and people should be able to express that without getting called out for no good reason really.Assuming the unwarranted stuff you're alluding to, is based on this forum, of course.About Ericsson, I really don't care about compromises or to be thankful that at least he's not this or that. On the grid, he's a waste of space. So I desire a situation where Sauber is there, but with a talented driver instead of Ericsson. That's nothing personal. That's just preferences. Nah it's not on here, various other places online. I didn't expect that level of backlash at the decision, I'm surprised that it surprised people since we know the owners(?) of the team are still his sponsor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolvingPrawn Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Anybody else watching the Autosport Awards tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator MBKF1 Posted December 4, 2017 Moderator Share Posted December 4, 2017 I didn't think my reaction to Ericsson was hateful at all, all I said was that I was disappointed, but not surprised and I hope Leclerc 'whoops his ass'.I appreciate that without Ericsson's backers the team may not be on the grid, but that doesn't change my view that that seat would be better filled by Giovinazzi. Ericsson is generally just an unremarkable driver, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator MBKF1 Posted December 4, 2017 Moderator Share Posted December 4, 2017 And yes, I did watch the Autosport Awards! It was good to be able to watch them live this year, I really enjoyed it. Nelson Piquet tearing up was quite emotional actually! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMSKRR Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 MBKF1 said: I didn't think my reaction to Ericsson was hateful at all, all I said was that I was disappointed, but not surprised and I hope Leclerc 'whoops his ass'.I appreciate that without Ericsson's backers the team may not be on the grid, but that doesn't change my view that that seat would be better filled by Giovinazzi. Ericsson is generally just an unremarkable driver, in my opinion. Don't worry mate I wasn't aiming it at you at all, should have specified that :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiRTKiNG808 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Talking about seats. I wish the Mercedes seat would have gone to someone more competitive. Alonso or Ricciardo would have been in Hamiltons face for the whole season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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