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That whole Martini sponsor rule seems kind of ridicules. You should consider which driver will do best for the team. Not how old they are,
Ideally yes. But sponsors are only here to make money. They rather someone that can be a good representative of their brand. For an alcohol company, that isn't a 17 year old. Having someone that can sell they're brand is more important to the sponsors than just winning races. 

Of course there is the argument that having a winning driver sells their brand just as well. The problem with that is the likelihood of Williams (or any mid field team) being a winning team again. 
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That whole Martini sponsor rule seems kind of ridicules. You should consider which driver will do best for the team. Not how old they are,
Ideally yes. But sponsors are only here to make money. They rather someone that can be a good representative of their brand. For an alcohol company, that isn't a 17 year old. Having someone that can sell they're brand is more important to the sponsors than just winning races. 

Of course there is the argument that having a winning driver sells their brand just as well. The problem with that is the likelihood of Williams (or any mid field team) being a winning team again. 
Ya, I guess that makes sense. For Williams to win again I think the Hybrids would have to leave.
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Very pleased with this news, it means we should be getting two talented youngsters on the grid rather than keeping mediocre Ericsson.

However, I do feel bad for Wehrlein. Yes, he didn't impress as much as he should have this year, but when you're in the slowest car out there it's hard to stand out unless you have a shock result (such as Spain).

Just mad to think that Ocon is thriving at Force India and will undoubtedly be a candidate for Mercedes if either of their drivers leave. And then you have Wehrlein, who could have been that person, yet seems destined now for Formula E, I expect.
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I'm hoping that Leclerc can make it all the way to Ferrari. That would awesome! I also think that Alfa would be good for the Sauber team. Things that I am not liking for next year is of course the Halo's and the 3 engine limit to me is just stupid. I think 6 power units would be perfect.
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What I don't love is that Ericsson is yet again on the grid. Disappointed, but not surprised. Could have been so exciting to have two youngsters in there with Leclerc and Giovinazzi.

I just hope Leclerc whoops Ericsson's ass next year.
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Wow, I love all the hate for Ericsson from some people. Genuine hatred for someone who's cash has probably kept Sauber in the sport long enough for this to happen and give Leclerc his shot. 
And he isn't even that terrible, he was only just beaten by Werhlein, and importantly, he wasn't crashing into anyone, just quietly going about his business. I'm actually interested to see how he might perform in a car that can actually do something, he's had awful back markers his entire career. I'm not expecting much of course, but after this display I really hope he surprises us, somehow.  

And sure, I'd like to see someone with more potential in that car, but I really don't understand the vile attitude towards him from some fans.
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Vile is an exaggeration, it's not like anyone wants him dead, it's just that Ericsson doesn't excite anybody and I personally want people in who can excite me. I do agree that it's because of Ericsson('s sponsors) that someone like Leclerc even has a spot right now, but beyond that, there's little to be thankful for.

He's just a dull, completely average (in this field below average) driver who is in because of his money and who has nothing about him that hints at improvement. Filler. Nobody likes filler.

Not to mention that the reason he was so close to Wehrlein at the end is in part because all the newer parts went straight to Ericsson and all the leftovers went to Wehrlein. Same happened to Nasr and then Nasr was the one to score points in Brazil. And it's frustrating when exciting talents like Giovinazzi basically has nothing going for him and we have to put up with Ericsson instead. In F1.
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They could make the side pods red or something,  but I wouldn’t be surprised if Ferrari told them that was the maximum amount of red they could have :joy:
Either way I like it how it is. It will look different anyway, as that isn’t a current car.
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Vile is an exaggeration, it's not like anyone wants him dead, it's just that Ericsson doesn't excite anybody and I personally want people in who can excite me. I do agree that it's because of Ericsson('s sponsors) that someone like Leclerc even has a spot right now, but beyond that, there's little to be thankful for.

He's just a dull, completely average (in this field below average) driver who is in because of his money and who has nothing about him that hints at improvement. Filler. Nobody likes filler.

Not to mention that the reason he was so close to Wehrlein at the end is in part because all the newer parts went straight to Ericsson and all the leftovers went to Wehrlein. Same happened to Nasr and then Nasr was the one to score points in Brazil. And it's frustrating when exciting talents like Giovinazzi basically has nothing going for him and we have to put up with Ericsson instead. In F1.
Sure, nobody wants him dead but there's been some pretty harsh, rather unwarranted stuff thrown around about him.

Like you said, simply put it's a boring choice, but that's no reason to be a d*** about it. I'd rather have had Gio this season to be honest, but equally I'd also  rather have had 10 teams than 9! 

Every grid in history has had guys like Ericsson, just be thankful he isn't hitting people like Maldonado or that he is wasting a good car :)
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Jiggy said:
Vile is an exaggeration, it's not like anyone wants him dead, it's just that Ericsson doesn't excite anybody and I personally want people in who can excite me. I do agree that it's because of Ericsson('s sponsors) that someone like Leclerc even has a spot right now, but beyond that, there's little to be thankful for.

He's just a dull, completely average (in this field below average) driver who is in because of his money and who has nothing about him that hints at improvement. Filler. Nobody likes filler.

Not to mention that the reason he was so close to Wehrlein at the end is in part because all the newer parts went straight to Ericsson and all the leftovers went to Wehrlein. Same happened to Nasr and then Nasr was the one to score points in Brazil. And it's frustrating when exciting talents like Giovinazzi basically has nothing going for him and we have to put up with Ericsson instead. In F1.
Sure, nobody wants him dead but there's been some pretty harsh, rather unwarranted stuff thrown around about him.

Like you said, simply put it's a boring choice, but that's no reason to be a d*** about it. I'd rather have had Gio this season to be honest, but equally I'd also  rather have had 10 teams than 9! 

Every grid in history has had guys like Ericsson, just be thankful he isn't hitting people like Maldonado or that he is wasting a good car :)
I doubt Marcus Ericsson will be in tears over it from his F1-seat.

Like I don't know what comments you're alluding to when you say he's had unwarranted stuff said in his direction, but if it's this forum, a very lazy search shows the MBK-comment as the only anti-Ericsson comment and that post in itself is hardly anything excessive. And even if it was, who cares about being a dick? It's a throwaway-comment on a throwaway-section of a forum most people use to bitch at Codemasters over whatever game they suck at. Even if he said something like Marcus Ericsson is a talentless spastic piece of shit, who cares? It has zero effect on his life.

And well, you could say it affects your forum experience. But the comment wasn't excessive. So at that point, it's just making a big deal out of nothing really to take that as a vile example of pure hatred towards Ericsson and I'm just not following you on that one.

It's an expression of disappointment and people should be able to express that without getting called out for no good reason really.

Assuming the unwarranted stuff you're alluding to, is based on this forum, of course.

About Ericsson, I really don't care about compromises or to be thankful that at least he's not this or that. On the grid, he's a waste of space. So I desire a situation where Sauber is there, but with a talented driver instead of Ericsson. That's nothing personal. That's just preferences.
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Jiggy said:
Vile is an exaggeration, it's not like anyone wants him dead, it's just that Ericsson doesn't excite anybody and I personally want people in who can excite me. I do agree that it's because of Ericsson('s sponsors) that someone like Leclerc even has a spot right now, but beyond that, there's little to be thankful for.

He's just a dull, completely average (in this field below average) driver who is in because of his money and who has nothing about him that hints at improvement. Filler. Nobody likes filler.

Not to mention that the reason he was so close to Wehrlein at the end is in part because all the newer parts went straight to Ericsson and all the leftovers went to Wehrlein. Same happened to Nasr and then Nasr was the one to score points in Brazil. And it's frustrating when exciting talents like Giovinazzi basically has nothing going for him and we have to put up with Ericsson instead. In F1.
Sure, nobody wants him dead but there's been some pretty harsh, rather unwarranted stuff thrown around about him.

Like you said, simply put it's a boring choice, but that's no reason to be a d*** about it. I'd rather have had Gio this season to be honest, but equally I'd also  rather have had 10 teams than 9! 

Every grid in history has had guys like Ericsson, just be thankful he isn't hitting people like Maldonado or that he is wasting a good car :)
I doubt Marcus Ericsson will be in tears over it from his F1-seat.

Like I don't know what comments you're alluding to when you say he's had unwarranted stuff said in his direction, but if it's this forum, a very lazy search shows the MBK-comment as the only anti-Ericsson comment and that post in itself is hardly anything excessive. And even if it was, who cares about being a ****? It's a throwaway-comment on a throwaway-section of a forum most people use to **** at Codemasters over whatever game they suck at. Even if he said something like Marcus Ericsson is a talentless spastic piece of ****, who cares? It has zero effect on his life.

And well, you could say it affects your forum experience. But the comment wasn't excessive. So at that point, it's just making a big deal out of nothing really to take that as a vile example of pure hatred towards Ericsson and I'm just not following you on that one.

It's an expression of disappointment and people should be able to express that without getting called out for no good reason really.

Assuming the unwarranted stuff you're alluding to, is based on this forum, of course.

About Ericsson, I really don't care about compromises or to be thankful that at least he's not this or that. On the grid, he's a waste of space. So I desire a situation where Sauber is there, but with a talented driver instead of Ericsson. That's nothing personal. That's just preferences.
Nah it's not on here, various other places online. I didn't expect that level of backlash at the decision, I'm surprised that it surprised people since we know the owners(?) of the team are still his sponsor.
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I didn't think my reaction to Ericsson was hateful at all, all I said was that I was disappointed, but not surprised and I hope Leclerc 'whoops his ass'.

I appreciate that without Ericsson's backers the team may not be on the grid, but that doesn't change my view that that seat would be better filled by Giovinazzi. Ericsson is generally just an unremarkable driver, in my opinion.
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I didn't think my reaction to Ericsson was hateful at all, all I said was that I was disappointed, but not surprised and I hope Leclerc 'whoops his ass'.

I appreciate that without Ericsson's backers the team may not be on the grid, but that doesn't change my view that that seat would be better filled by Giovinazzi. Ericsson is generally just an unremarkable driver, in my opinion.
Don't worry mate I wasn't aiming it at you at all, should have specified that :)
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