JorritVD Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Ok, instead of Hockenheim or Estering... Germany gets a new RX location. At least for @PJTierney and the DiRT team, they can use a track from the F1 games again as a base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichWard25 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I wander how similar it will be to the original track they used for the Internations Cup in the early 90’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyH1812 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Well RIP Estering I guess 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorritVD Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) In that post from Fia WRX, they reacted tomorrow the 2020 scheduele will be announced. Btw, before also have been 2 German tracks in the same year with Hockenheim and Estering. Also locationwise it is a bit odd to have both Spa and Nurburgring. They are pretty close together. Might Spa not return than? Edited October 29, 2019 by JorritVD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Social Media & Community Team PJTierney Posted October 29, 2019 Social Media & Community Team Share Posted October 29, 2019 Ooh Nurb. A bunch of my friends made their own fantasy Nurburgring RX track, it skips the final chicane by turning left and going over a massive grass jump 😄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mats27 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 hour ago, JorritVD said: In that post from Fia WRX, they reacted tomorrow the 2020 scheduele will be announced. Btw, before also have been 2 German tracks in the same year with Hockenheim and Estering. Also locationwise it is a bit odd to have both Spa and Nurburgring. They are pretty close together. Might Spa not return than? Pretty sure we'll still see Spa next year, if anything them being so close is a good thing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianism Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 yeah, Spa was a very nice surprise I guess we'll have to wait till we see the races at Nurburgring to determine whether it's a good track for spectating (either in person on not). these F1 tracks have been pretty hit or miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Social Media & Community Team PJTierney Posted October 29, 2019 Social Media & Community Team Share Posted October 29, 2019 Thoughts on which layout they may use? I suspect they'll use the hairpin and Michael-Schumacher S sections as there are many grandstands down that way, and potentially use the 2 short circuit's roads as Jokers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mats27 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 91-97 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James__McAdam Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 13 hours ago, mats27 said: 91-97 I think you have it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbtstt Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 Well at least they have gone somewhere with some rallycross history this time. Going to be interesting to see the full calendar today, lot of rumours flying around about certain 2019 circuits getting the cut, I wonder which ones will make it?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorritVD Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 If it is that historic RX lay-out, than it could be something well. But it also needs a proper joker and an other problem is that the paddock is quite far away, which is not really suitable for the fans to walk from one side to the other side of the track. My guess it will also be a that S chicane what PJT mentioned, or the use of the Arena section at the end of the start finish straight, which will give a good view for the fans and there is a tunnel to the paddock. I will be interested how 2020 looks like and how that will be planned with Projekt E and ERX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mats27 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, tbtstt said: Well at least they have gone somewhere with some rallycross history this time. Going to be interesting to see the full calendar today, lot of rumours flying around about certain 2019 circuits getting the cut, I wonder which ones will make it?... Yeah it's going to be interesting! Will definitely get to this event, revisit the old circuit too. Love this part of Germany. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mats27 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, JorritVD said: the paddock is quite far away, which is not really suitable for the fans to walk from one side to the other side of the track. Perhaps, but it wouldn't surprise me if they used the loop, plenty of space for a paddock, parking infrastructure + access roads. I'd bet they want to use those F1 facilities though, like you said. Turns 1-2 would be perfect for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Social Media & Community Team PJTierney Posted October 30, 2019 Social Media & Community Team Share Posted October 30, 2019 37 minutes ago, mats27 said: Yeah it's going to be interesting! Will definitely get to this event, revisit the old circuit too. Love this part of Germany. 🙂 I need to visit Nurburgring 24 Hours at least once in my life. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James__McAdam Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 I am looking forward to watch TBC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyH1812 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Huh, no UK or North America events... You'd assume Round 6 would be Canada right? Based on its position in recent years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyH1812 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Round 9 is a European event because it has the green star for Euro RX next to it Isn't Super1600 part of EuroRX as well which would made Round 6 an event in Europe too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbtstt Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 Looks like the rumours about Silverstone may be true. That's a very disappointing calendar; no Euros at Barcelona again, no UK round and a "full" calendar with two empty slots in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieI Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Could round 6 be Latvia maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyH1812 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Just now, richie said: Could round 6 be Latvia maybe? I thought Latvia had gone bye bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieI Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, MattyH1812 said: I thought Latvia had gone bye bye Latvia's gone? Hm, must've missed the news then. 😕 Edited October 30, 2019 by richie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbtstt Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, richie said: Could round 6 be Latvia maybe? Possibly but, as @MattyH1812 said, I think Latvia is gone: there has been talking of funding issues throughout this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbtstt Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, richie said: Latvia's gone? Hm, must've missed the news then. 😕 There are a few stories floating around about, this is probably the clearest... http://latviarx.lv/en/jaunumi/neste-world-rx-latvia-likely-not-found-2020-calendar/ ...perhaps they will be able to strike a deal at the 11th hour? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James__McAdam Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Trois Rivières is OUT and it's sure : https://www.lhebdojournal.com/la-fin-du-championnat-du-monde-de-rallycross-fia-a-trois-rivieres/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Social Media & Community Team PJTierney Posted October 30, 2019 Social Media & Community Team Share Posted October 30, 2019 31 minutes ago, JamesMcAdam said: I am looking forward to watch TBC. Interesting that Yas Marina moves to the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbtstt Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, PJTierney said: Interesting that Yas Marina moves to the end. Logistically better for South Africa? I think Barcelona is a better circuit to kick things off with as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Social Media & Community Team PJTierney Posted October 30, 2019 Social Media & Community Team Share Posted October 30, 2019 Could be a seasonal thing too, Yas Marina typically ends the F1 calendar. My guesses at the other 2 would be Canada for TBC in July and Silverstone for TBC in September. Latvia would be that spot but based on the last few posts in this thread it's not in a good spot financially. Probably fewer American events as ARX seems to be picking up steam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James__McAdam Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, PJTierney said: Could be a seasonal thing too, Yas Marina typically ends the F1 calendar. My guesses at the other 2 would be Canada for TBC in July and Silverstone for TBC in September. Latvia would be that spot but based on the last few posts in this thread it's not in a good spot financially. Probably fewer American events as ARX seems to be picking up steam. Canada has been officially deleted. A mix event with the ARX is highly awaited IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoksuHoo Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) There seems to be suitable some room for a UK event in the calendar. Edited October 30, 2019 by HoksuHoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbtstt Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 15 minutes ago, PJTierney said: My guesses at the other 2 would be Canada for TBC in July and Silverstone for TBC in September. Latvia would be that spot but based on the last few posts in this thread it's not in a good spot financially. I'd be surprised if the July round is outside Europe: unlikely that the Super 1600 field would be expected to travel overseas? September might still be Latvia - subject to funding - but I am now seriously doubtful we will see Silverstone back. I think it is highly unlikely but, despite that, I am desperately hoping that one of the TBC turns out to be Lydden! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mats27 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 28 minutes ago, JamesMcAdam said: Canada has been officially deleted. A mix event with the ARX is highly awaited IMO. Can't do it with the Subarus I don't think as they don't comply with WRX rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbtstt Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, mats27 said: Can't do it with the Subarus I don't think as they don't comply with WRX rules They didn't, I don't know if the ARX regulations directly reflect the WRX rules now? Article on Autosport... https://www.autosport.com/wrx/news/146883/world-rx-drops-silverstone-and-trois-rivieres ...suggests that World RX won't be in the UK this year and confirms that the new circuit at the Nurburgring will be based in the Mullenbachsleife area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James__McAdam Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, mats27 said: Can't do it with the Subarus I don't think as they don't comply with WRX rules I mean a separate race during the same event, like they have already done at trois rivières in 2018 if I am right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mats27 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, tbtstt said: ...suggests that World RX won't be in the UK this year and confirms that the new circuit at the Nurburgring will be based in the Mullenbachsleife area. Very cool, lots of space and infrastructure there so makes sense. Also means they keep all the mess down at the bottom of the circuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janneman60 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 So eurorx back to only 5 starts ?😢 This calendar with open slots looks not like a step forward... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianism Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, JamesMcAdam said: Trois Rivières is OUT and it's sure : https://www.lhebdojournal.com/la-fin-du-championnat-du-monde-de-rallycross-fia-a-trois-rivieres/ 1 hour ago, PJTierney said: My guesses at the other 2 would be Canada for TBC in July and Silverstone for TBC in September. Latvia would be that spot but based on the last few posts in this thread it's not in a good spot financially. Probably fewer American events as ARX seems to be picking up steam. Judging by the article about Latvia (http://latviarx.lv/en/jaunumi/neste-world-rx-latvia-likely-not-found-2020-calendar/) this is probably the reason that one of the venues is TBC (note that this article is from June 27th, so things could have changed). the local organizers are waiting for the Latvian gov't to decide on their 2020 budget (which happens at the end of 2019) because that will determine whether they have have a WRX round or not. they think it is unlikely there will be an event there in 2020, however. to summarize the article about Trois Rivières, as it's in French... the event organizers are saying that they were able to get an event in 2014 because FIA wanted events on 3 continents. but now that there are ones in Asia (Yas) and Africa (SA) as well as Europe, the negotiating position of the TR people is severely weakened. they say that they really wanted to keep the RX race, but not at any price. so budget is a concern there, as in Latvia. having watched all the rounds in Quebec, you could see that a high percentage of the billboards had govt of Quebec or govt of Canada on them, so they were getting a lot of funding from both the provincial and the federal level, but apparently it's not enough for IMG any more. that article is from yesterday, so it seems like GP3R is definitely out. I think Silverstone has got to be still in negotiations. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorritVD Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, JamesMcAdam said: I am looking forward to watch TBC. Quite a surprise indeed - I am suprised that there will be more WRX events. - interesting that they not posted the Projekt E events. - Both TBC are events in Europe or close to Europe. Maybe Finland or Russia I guess and a outside shot for Latvia. A lot of Russian drivers are in s1600, and there is a new RX track in Russia. - so the rumor about Silverstone is true. - less euro Supercars rounds, so I guess this is to push some of them to do some extra rounds in WRX. - I think the flyaway rounds is good they combine it. Probably they will be shipped to Abu Dhabi. And after they can go immediately to South Africa. Budget wise makes sense. Edited October 30, 2019 by JorritVD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorritVD Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Now the 2020 schedule is out, maybe time to gossip about the 2020 entries as well I saw the following teams/drivers sharing the 2020 schedule: - GCK - Rokas Baciuška - Cyril Raymond - Timo Scheider (posted about the Nurburgring) - Xite Racing / Oliver Bennett - STARD - Ulrik Linnemann - Niclas Grönholm - Timur Timerzyanov - ES Motorsports - Matvey Furazhkin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mats27 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 21 minutes ago, JorritVD said: Now the 2020 schedule is out, maybe time to gossip about the 2020 entries as well Probably the same as last year tbh, RX Cartel will need that Monster cash to keep going though, Bakkerud and Doran paying through the teeth at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James__McAdam Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 If Bakkerud wins the title, the RX cartel will be here in 2020. If the Hansen's machina wins, I don't know about the RX Cartel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorritVD Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, JamesMcAdam said: If Bakkerud wins the title, the RX cartel will be here in 2020. If the Hansen's machina wins, I don't know about the RX Cartel. The Monster Energy brand sponsored multiple cars before (VW and Ford), I would be suprised if they not will continue with their sponsorship with probably the most interesting couple of drivers on the frid that fit with the brand. I think the question is more if they will continue with EKS, or that f.e. Subaru will get into play. I know the Subi is not completly according to the WRX regulations, but that can be arranged ofcourse. Imagine black Subarus with Monster colors. And than EKS/JC with Szabo and Larsson in the Audi S1s Also I am not really sure about the Hansen brothers will return. The problem last year was (A) cars and (B) money. The cars they have and are competive. I would also be suprised if Red Bull would stop the sponsorship. But also a big part of the budget was coming from Pucher (MJP). I wonder if he will continue with that. because it was basically to get extra attention for Titans. A final thing, could we see Loeb back in World RX? The i20 has showen it is maybe overall the fastest car and probably that development is also ongoing. It might be the car for 2020 to have to go for the championship and maybe with some support from Hyundai. Also SET/GRX have enough i20 Supercars and otherwise they can build ofcourse. EDIT, one more final thing. Hopefully OMSE will be back. Edited October 31, 2019 by JorritVD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Social Media & Community Team PJTierney Posted October 31, 2019 Social Media & Community Team Share Posted October 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, JorritVD said: A final thing, could we see Loeb back in World RX? He's part-timing WRC again next year along with Sordo (Tanak and Neuville will be the main drivers for Hyundai), so there's time available to go do some RX 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieI Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Tanak leaving Toyota is really surprising to me. Haven't read the article yet but he just won the championship, so his relationship with Toyota surely isn't the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfei Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 41 minutes ago, richie said: Tanak leaving Toyota is really surprising to me. Haven't read the article yet but he just won the championship, so his relationship with Toyota surely isn't the best. The relationship has been strained since the mechanical issue on the Sardinia Power Stage. The rumor mill thinks Toyota is going to make a bid for Ogier and if that happens, Neuville could move to Citroën. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwoodski Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Welp there goes my plans of going to a WRX event next year 😕 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbtstt Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 hours ago, JorritVD said: The Monster Energy brand sponsored multiple cars before (VW and Ford), I would be suprised if they not will continue with their sponsorship with probably the most interesting couple of drivers on the frid that fit with the brand. I think the question is more if they will continue with EKS, or that f.e. Subaru will get into play. I know the Subi is not completly according to the WRX regulations, but that can be arranged ofcourse. Imagine black Subarus with Monster colors. And than EKS/JC with Szabo and Larsson in the Audi S1s Also I am not really sure about the Hansen brothers will return. The problem last year was (A) cars and (B) money. The cars they have and are competive. I would also be suprised if Red Bull would stop the sponsorship. But also a big part of the budget was coming from Pucher (MJP). I wonder if he will continue with that. because it was basically to get extra attention for Titans. A final thing, could we see Loeb back in World RX? The i20 has showen it is maybe overall the fastest car and probably that development is also ongoing. It might be the car for 2020 to have to go for the championship and maybe with some support from Hyundai. Also SET/GRX have enough i20 Supercars and otherwise they can build ofcourse. EDIT, one more final thing. Hopefully OMSE will be back. The Monster budget was very tight this year, I really hope Bakkerud can take the Championship and bring the EKS cars back again next year: it would a shame to see them not getting used! Would love to see Larsson back in the World Championship again, but I doubt he has the budget for it unless he can get a lot more sponsors onboard. If Pucher wants the Hansen brothers/family to support Titans again next year then he may fund them again (especially if Timmy wins the Championship). Agree with regards to OMSE: would be brilliant to see them return, especially if they can bring Sebastien Eriksson along! 1 hour ago, richie said: Tanak leaving Toyota is really surprising to me. Haven't read the article yet but he just won the championship, so his relationship with Toyota surely isn't the best. Yeah, I was surprised as well. I have read a few comments indicating that all is not as great behind the scenes at Toyota as it would appear from the outside. Tanak making a move would certainly support that. 1 hour ago, mwoodski said: Welp there goes my plans of going to a WRX event next year 😕 Get yourself to a European event, it'll give you a better weekend than Silverstone would have done! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieI Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 hour ago, tbtstt said: Yeah, I was surprised as well. I have read a few comments indicating that all is not as great behind the scenes at Toyota as it would appear from the outside. Tanak making a move would certainly support that. Honestly, having a mechanical failure isn't really a reason to sign a contract with another manufacturer because every team has to deal with such problems. There must be more. Maybe he didn't get along with Mäkinen. Changing a winning team is not what people normally do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfei Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, richie said: Honestly, having a mechanical failure isn't really a reason to sign a contract with another manufacturer because every team has to deal with such problems. There must be more. Maybe he didn't get along with Mäkinen. Changing a winning team is not what people normally do. The tension began last year. Tänak made it clear he lost to Ogier because of the car breaking down. That tension moved into 2019 and reached the boiling point in Sardinia. Evidently Tänak never got on well with Tommi or his girlfriend. Now besides the Ogier to Toyota rumor, the plot thickens as Neuville tweeted Happy Halloween from Toyota's HQ in Finland. The tweet was promptly deleted. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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