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1 minute ago, JorritVD said:

Yeah, missing Estering. It is kinda my home track. I'm thinking which track I should choose for my second visit at an WRX event. Logically would be Spa, as that will be the closest now to my home. But maybe I will combine something with a holiday. 

 

I also wonder what tactics Codemasters and World RX have with possible RX DLC. Looks like an ARX DLC will come, the remaining 4 2018 RX tracks will come. Maybe an 2019 WRX DLC with Abu Dhabi and Spa?

And maybe some 2019 liveries ?

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2 minutes ago, tbtstt said:

Ha, the random Doran/Bakkerud guess was right! I think the entry list looks really promising, it's just the circuits they are racing on that I am not sure about.

Haha yeah.

I have no idea about the tracks. Not want to judge immediately. Visiting Abu Dhabi could help with sponsorship from that region.
Also if it is in the night it could be interesting. GRC ussually had that and it was cool with the hot turbo and exhaust.
But I agree, more events not should come in that region.

Also Spa could be an interesting track with a lot of hight differences which could result in off-camber corners and cause tricky braking zones and massive drifts.

I don;t think the new tracks will be neccesairy bad or something. Just look at Barca, Riga, Mettet, Killarney. I haven't hear many complain about that.
Also I think if CotA would/will be in DR2.0, i think it will be a fun and challenging track to race at.
I think the new tracks just miss a bit of the atmosphere and history and the old skool layout with more gravel and jumps. But even Estering not has a jump. 

Yes, it is a bummer they move to these non traditional RX locations, but first I want to see the racing before I will judge. 

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1 minute ago, JorritVD said:

Yes, it is a bummer they move to these non traditional RX locations, but first I want to see the racing before I will judge. 

Yeah, that's very true, it's just a shame that Abu Dhabi looks so similar to CotA (which I thought was dreadful!). 

I would like to know which car Bakkerud will be using and who will be running the team. If everything is in place then Andreas is definitely my Championship favourite!

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2 minutes ago, tbtstt said:

I would like to know which car Bakkerud will be using and who will be running the team. If everything is in place then Andreas is definitely my Championship favourite!

I think it are 2018 spec S1. And my feeling is that EKS are running all three S1 if I follow the story of Szabo on IG.

Btw, there will be an NRX event this season? Wonder which WRX entries will all show up there.

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5 minutes ago, JorritVD said:

I think it are 2018 spec S1. And my feeling is that EKS are running all three S1 if I follow the story of Szabo on IG.

Btw, there will be an NRX event this season? Wonder which WRX entries will all show up there.

If they are 2018 cars being run by EKS then Bakkerud is surely going to be the pace setter. 

Not sure on NRX, none of the World teams took their primary cars there last year so, with no factory teams involved this year, I wonder how many (if any) teams will have a car to spare for NRX. 

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I watched The Gymkhana Files over the weekend and it was heartbreaking watching Ken having to tell Bakkerud that the Hoonigan RX team was no more. You could tell how much he loved it by how upset he was.

Man that was one hell of a docuseries, would thoroughly recommend to anyone.

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I think the AD layout looks ok, but we will wait and see. COTA was too tight and technical, there’s was nowhere to pass on most of the track, whereas this is looking a bit more open, plus the joker lap looks quite long which could be interesting

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2 minutes ago, tbtstt said:

If they are 2018 cars being run by EKS then Bakkerud is surely going to be the pace setter. 

Not sure on NRX, none of the World teams took their primary cars there last year so, with no factory teams involved this year, I wonder how many (if any) teams will have a car to spare for NRX. 

Well, NRX in 2018 was between the Latvia and US round. So three weekens of racing in a row. Therefore not could take any risk with their regular cars. If the schedule is this time better, I am quite sure more entries will be there now as they can take risks with their regular cars and make also the neccesairy resources available. 

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11 minutes ago, SirPhilMcKraken said:

I watched The Gymkhana Files over the weekend and it was heartbreaking watching Ken having to tell Bakkerud that the Hoonigan RX team was no more. You could tell how much he loved it by how upset he was.

Man that was one hell of a docuseries, would thoroughly recommend to anyone.

Yeah, I found the series far more entertaining than the end product. It was sad to see the rallycross programme grind to a halt in 2017, I still maintain it would have been a different story if they'd have used the Fiesta rather than the Focus. 

5 minutes ago, JorritVD said:

Well, NRX in 2018 was between the Latvia and US round. So three weekens of racing in a row. Therefore not could take any risk with their regular cars. If the schedule is this time better, I am quite sure more entries will be there now as they can take risks with their regular cars and make also the neccesairy resources available. 

How many of this years teams have the funding to send and run cars at a non-Championship event though? 

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15 minutes ago, tbtstt said:

 

Yeah, I found the series far more entertaining than the end product. It was sad to see the rallycross programme grind to a halt in 2017, I still maintain it would have been a different story if they'd have used the Fiesta rather than the Focus. 

I did feel that Gymkhana 10 was a bit of a letdown, not really sure why though. I think its because they've pushed the boat out more stunt wise each time but this one was a little more reserved. Possibly due to the multiple locations but I did feel that watching the series first then Gym10 again was better. The Focus definitely seemed to lumber around in comparison to the smaller wheelbase of the other cars, one of the best looking though in my opinion. 

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4 minutes ago, SirPhilMcKraken said:

I did feel that Gymkhana 10 was a bit of a letdown, not really sure why though. I think its because they've pushed the boat out more stunt wise each time but this one was a little more reserved. Possibly due to the multiple locations but I did feel that watching the series first then Gym10 again was better. The Focus definitely seemed to lumber around in comparison to the smaller wheelbase of the other cars, one of the best looking though in my opinion. 

I think it might have felt different it I'd have seen Gymkhana 10, then watched how they made it. Seeing the "making of" before the feature seemed the wrong way around!

The Fiesta was already a developed (and competitive) car whereas they had to start from scratch with the Focus. I personally think Block would have had more success in 2016 if he'd been in the Fiesta and the learning curve for the team would have been less steep. Ford seemed to lose interest in 2017 and development of the car stalled.

(I don't dispute that the Focus looked pretty cool though!)

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  • 2 weeks later...

Photos and videos today showing Szabo, Bakkerud and Doran all testing 2018 specification Audi S1 with EKS support. 

If EKS are running all three cars this year then I expect them to be fast and consistent. 

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We all thought that small private teams could win this year... but with these ex-EKS audi S1, these ex-pug 208, it will be very hard for them. But 2019 should be still an amazing championshig, IMO.

I think it's Bakkerud's year. 

Or, and it's clearly a dream, Chicherit's podium 🙂

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The EKS S1 cars might not have any updates during the off season, the Hansen Peugeots seem to be an older spec (2017). if the Pug are 2018 spec, they probably also had no updates. On the other side the i20, Renaults, Ibiza, Fiesta, Mini cars did have updates during the off season. So the field should be closer imo. 

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The Pugs are the 2018 specification cars from the first half of the season @JorritVD. Peugeot Sport have retained the "evolution" 208's (for now). 

As you say, I hope that the EKS and Hansen cars have had minimal development so the rest of the field can catch up. 

I had high hopes for GCK this year @JamesMcAdam, but I understand the cars will no longer be supported/developed by Prodrive. If that is the case I wonder how competitive they are going to be this year. 

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25 minutes ago, tbtstt said:

I had high hopes for GCK this year @JamesMcAdam, but I understand the cars will no longer be supported/developed by Prodrive. If that is the case I wonder how competitive they are going to be this year. 

I agree. Renault is behind GCK somewhere. it needs to be like this or I don't know how he will do this year.

I've seen that Renault Sport begins to share GCK's instagram stories. That might be an hint. Or not.

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Saw this thread coming by.. and i just have 2 questions..  someone told me that all RX supercars are gonna be fully electric from 2021 is this correct? and if it is how do you guys feel about this? to me 2 things come into mind 1: lots of traction and silence.. which i dont think is the best combo. 

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43 minutes ago, thatDutchguy83 said:

Saw this thread coming by.. and i just have 2 questions..  someone told me that all RX supercars are gonna be fully electric from 2021 is this correct? and if it is how do you guys feel about this? to me 2 things come into mind 1: lots of traction and silence.. which i dont think is the best combo. 

Latest word is that the deadline for manufacturers to sign on for electric has passed and no one has signed up, so the introduction will likely slip further back than 2021: or be completely abandoned. 

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12 minutes ago, tbtstt said:

Latest word is that the deadline for manufacturers to sign on for electric has passed and no one has signed up, so the introduction will likely slip further back than 2021: or be completely abandoned. 

Shocking...

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31 minutes ago, tbtstt said:

Latest word is that the deadline for manufacturers to sign on for electric has passed and no one has signed up, so the introduction will likely slip further back than 2021: or be completely abandoned. 

That would be a really good thing imo! 

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1 hour ago, SquadBruce said:

Considering heading to Silverstone for the WRX at the end of May. Whats the viewing like there?

Actually pretty good. It's not as open as Lydden (few tracks are!), but it's much better than I was expecting. There are grandstands on the outside of the start line/turn one, you can view from the exit of turn one to turn two behind high fencing and the entire section between turn two and the jump just has a low fence, so you can view and take pictures all the way along there. 

Not sure if anyone is interested, but I have written a preview for the 2019 season: 

http://fueltopia.co.uk/world-rallycross-championship-2019-preview/

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agreed, great article. I'm quite disappointed about losing Montalegre. it's my favourite track in DR2.0

does anyone know anything about Estering being added? it's listed at the end as Round 0, with the date of August 17, 2019, which would make it Round 8. it's listed as being part of the Euro RX and Super 1600s championships, so maybe it's just those and not World RX?

 

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11 hours ago, ianism said:

does anyone know anything about Estering being added? it's listed at the end as Round 0, with the date of August 17, 2019, which would make it Round 8. it's listed as being part of the Euro RX and Super 1600s championships, so maybe it's just those and not World RX?

Yep, that's right @ianism, Estering is a standalone European Championship only round. 

There have been hints at a split of the World and European Championship coming for a few years now and I thought that Estering this year was the first sign that was happening. With the recent developments concerning the electric future of the Championship though, I wonder if that is less likely now. 

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I like the purple/blue thing they have going on. there aren't enough purple cars in motorsports, and it's a great colour.

but on the other hand, yeah they're a bit boring.

I'm into the GCK one though. the split is neat, though I do prefer the ones from last year... the back half of this one is a little uninspired

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It’s ok, the first few corners seem to provide a bit of action, but then it just seems to turn into a line of cars just following each other. Probably a fun track to drive, but not great racing to watch and it needs a proper off-road section, not just some dust

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***** what was bakkerud thinking?! He was never making it around that corner even if Timmy wasn’t there! I was quite a big fan of Andreas but he’s really disappointed me this weekend with the comments to Kevin Hansen and now this. Hope they’re both OK, but I can’t see either cars going again today.

 

Big shame for Bennet, really not what he needed. Dorian looks reasonably quick but as usual he’s just over driving and losing time in battles

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7 hours ago, RallyDriven said:

***** what was bakkerud thinking?! He was never making it around that corner even if Timmy wasn’t there! I was quite a big fan of Andreas but he’s really disappointed me this weekend with the comments to Kevin Hansen and now this. Hope they’re both OK, but I can’t see either cars going again today.

 

Big shame for Bennet, really not what he needed. Dorian looks reasonably quick but as usual he’s just over driving and losing time in battles

that was CRAZY.

he forgot how many laps there were. 3 or 4 other people did too in other races, which was very weird.

based on this weekend it looks like the Hansens and Bakkerud will dominate the podium at the end of the year, with Gronholm and 1 or 2 of the GCK guys fighting for the top 5. Nitiss looked super good too. everyone else? at least it looks like the races will be close, but it feels like the overall level of the field is a LOT lower than the last 2-3 years.

I think Doran went from being the unluckiest driver since the start of the World RX in 2014 to the luckiest in this event. he's been quick in the past, but I think he needs more time with the car to really become competitive for the podium. glad he got on it this time.

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There must have been official lap readout problems, like you said, several others throughout the racing had penultimate lap issues, including the final with two together going straight on at the first corner.

It wasn't a great start to the racing, but the heats definitely got better racing as they went on, the track developed enough to be more exciting towards the end.

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10 hours ago, RallyDriven said:

***** what was bakkerud thinking?! He was never making it around that corner even if Timmy wasn’t there! I was quite a big fan of Andreas but he’s really disappointed me this weekend with the comments to Kevin Hansen and now this. Hope they’re both OK, but I can’t see either cars going again today.

 

Big shame for Bennet, really not what he needed. Dorian looks reasonably quick but as usual he’s just over driving and losing time in battles

Bakkerud has always been overly aggressive, that said I thought he looked genuinely shaken when interviewed at the start of Q4 so I am inclined to believe it was a genuine mistake. 

I am not a massive fan of Timmy Hansen, but that was a rubbish way for his weekend to end. 

As for Bennett I admire what he is doing but, even with deep pockets and an all-privateer field I think he is out of his depth. I still think he should have gained more experience at a National level before attempting the World Championship. 

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