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Hey Codemasters, since we can't have their livery with mission winnow, i hope you will include the 90th anivessary livery which is identical, i mean the only difference is that the mission winnow logo is replaced by Ferrari's 90 years logo

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Clearly am missing something, but what is the issue with the mission winnow logo, its not selling or advertising anything,

RedBull is clearly not a healthy drinck, and unless ive been misinformed isnt it a age restricted product thats banned in some country's.

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3 hours ago, AScott said:

Clearly am missing something, but what is the issue with the mission winnow logo, its not selling or advertising anything,

RedBull is clearly not a healthy drinck, and unless ive been misinformed isnt it a age restricted product thats banned in some country's.

Mission Winnow is a 'thing' set up by Philip Morris International (PMI) with Scuderia Ferrari and Ducati MotoGP team being technology partners. PMI owns tobacco brand 'Marlboro' who used to sponsor said teams until the mid-2000's when tobacco advertisement was banned. 

The difference between Red Bull and Mission Winnow, is that Tobacco Advertisement is banned basically everywhere, but Energy Drinks don't have the same advertisement restrictions.  Although Mission Winnow does not advertise Tobacco, it's involvement with PMI rings alarm bells for some countries, especially Australia & France who have strict rules on advertisement, this is why Ferrari elect to run modified liveries for those Grand Prix. Some countries will allow this, some won't. I would expect more races this year to have the 90 Years of Ferrari livery. 

PMI pay hundreds of millions to sponsor Ferrari, them and British American Tobacco (BAT) have found a grey area in order to get their names back on F1 cars. The difference between Ferrari & McLaren, is that BAT is not the primary sponsor of McLaren. 

Yes, Red Bull is not healthy, but there's also Fizzy Drinks, Coffee, Chocolate, Fast Food, Smoking, Drinking, Gambling etc. I personally think gambling is worse than Red Bull, that's probably something to watch out for as Racing Point have just been sponsored by them, and I expect more betting companies to follow suit in the next few years. 

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9 hours ago, djrabes said:

Mission Winnow is a 'thing' set up by Philip Morris International (PMI) with Scuderia Ferrari and Ducati MotoGP team being technology partners. PMI owns tobacco brand 'Marlboro' who used to sponsor said teams until the mid-2000's when tobacco advertisement was banned. 

The difference between Red Bull and Mission Winnow, is that Tobacco Advertisement is banned basically everywhere, but Energy Drinks don't have the same advertisement restrictions.  Although Mission Winnow does not advertise Tobacco, it's involvement with PMI rings alarm bells for some countries, especially Australia & France who have strict rules on advertisement, this is why Ferrari elect to run modified liveries for those Grand Prix. Some countries will allow this, some won't. I would expect more races this year to have the 90 Years of Ferrari livery. 

PMI pay hundreds of millions to sponsor Ferrari, them and British American Tobacco (BAT) have found a grey area in order to get their names back on F1 cars. The difference between Ferrari & McLaren, is that BAT is not the primary sponsor of McLaren. 

Yes, Red Bull is not healthy, but there's also Fizzy Drinks, Coffee, Chocolate, Fast Food, Smoking, Drinking, Gambling etc. I personally think gambling is worse than Red Bull, that's probably something to watch out for as Racing Point have just been sponsored by them, and I expect more betting companies to follow suit in the next few years. 

Thats a awesome insight, thankyou for taking the time to explain very helpful.

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On 5/29/2019 at 11:37 PM, djrabes said:

Mission Winnow is a 'thing' set up by Philip Morris International (PMI) with Scuderia Ferrari and Ducati MotoGP team being technology partners. PMI owns tobacco brand 'Marlboro' who used to sponsor said teams until the mid-2000's when tobacco advertisement was banned. 

The difference between Red Bull and Mission Winnow, is that Tobacco Advertisement is banned basically everywhere, but Energy Drinks don't have the same advertisement restrictions.  Although Mission Winnow does not advertise Tobacco, it's involvement with PMI rings alarm bells for some countries, especially Australia & France who have strict rules on advertisement, this is why Ferrari elect to run modified liveries for those Grand Prix. Some countries will allow this, some won't. I would expect more races this year to have the 90 Years of Ferrari livery. 

PMI pay hundreds of millions to sponsor Ferrari, them and British American Tobacco (BAT) have found a grey area in order to get their names back on F1 cars. The difference between Ferrari & McLaren, is that BAT is not the primary sponsor of McLaren. 

Yes, Red Bull is not healthy, but there's also Fizzy Drinks, Coffee, Chocolate, Fast Food, Smoking, Drinking, Gambling etc. I personally think gambling is worse than Red Bull, that's probably something to watch out for as Racing Point have just been sponsored by them, and I expect more betting companies to follow suit in the next few years. 

mission winnow is a product along the lines of vape (e-cigarettes) .. its not technically a tobacco product, but it's a semantics situation.  It delivers nicotine, which is the drug in tobacco without the other poisons from smoking.   In Australia (where e-cigs are illegal) it was deemed a tobacco product, so they could not show the advertising.  Do not expect codies to allow the mission winnow livery if they won't allow the Champagne logo due to it being disallowed in UAE.

What it really funny is 'loot boxes' have been deemed to be a form of gambling by courts but game companies aren't interested in stopping those any time soon.

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Only thing that logo on the engine cover reminds me of is Mario.

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