buttonfan Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 He is better when it comes to one lap pace, but I think Alonso is more complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator f1since08 Posted May 7, 2014 Moderator Share Posted May 7, 2014 Alonso is the smarter driver, but I think Hamilton is the faster driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukedfrt Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Over 1 lap Hamilton probably has it on everyone in the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetwothree Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Lukedfrt said: Over 1 lap Hamilton probably has it on everyone in the field. Then on the second lap he gets swamped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yugin96 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 onetwothree said: Lukedfrt said: Over 1 lap Hamilton probably has it on everyone in the field. Then on the second lap he gets swamped? 1 lap, not lap 1 :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetwothree Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Close enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couger1981 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Problem with Hamilton is that he makes too many risky moves on his team mate to get into the lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number44 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Alonso is fast in race pace but Hamilton is faster overall and to me helps the team develop a faster car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttonfan Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 couger1981 said: Problem with Hamilton is that he makes too many risky moves on his team mate to get into the lead. Besides Canada 2011 I can't think of something else, and that was in the wet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylerrnty1 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Underrated - ChiltonBrilliant driver, really keeping up with the caterhams!!!! He is scoring the same amount of points as them and I am sure he will end the season on a high! Overrated - Far too many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couger1981 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 mike96 said: couger1981 said: Problem with Hamilton is that he makes too many risky moves on his team mate to get into the lead. Besides Canada 2011 I can't think of something else, and that was in the wet. This year must have slipped your mind ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolvingPrawn Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 couger1981 said: mike96 said: couger1981 said: Problem with Hamilton is that he makes too many risky moves on his team mate to get into the lead. Besides Canada 2011 I can't think of something else, and that was in the wet. This year must have slipped your mind ;) But they didn't make contact and it was great from both of them. Any racer would have pulled the exact same moves as Hamilton. If anything, Rosberg was the one taking the risks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couger1981 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 RevolvingPrawn said: couger1981 said: mike96 said: couger1981 said: Problem with Hamilton is that he makes too many risky moves on his team mate to get into the lead. Besides Canada 2011 I can't think of something else, and that was in the wet. This year must have slipped your mind ;) But they didn't make contact and it was great from both of them. Any racer would have pulled the exact same moves as Hamilton. If anything, Rosberg was the one taking the risks. Both would take risks, Hamilton will make a risky move going into and mid corner and the same with Rosberg but both haven't made contact yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenColt Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 So, anyway... back on topic:Underrated: I might have to put Lewis in this list soon, seeing how well he's coping with the current F1 and its challenges. There have been some concerns in the past that the new F1 wouldn't suit his aggressive approach to a race weekend, but so far he has excelled in the "thinking mans formula" more than anyone else (bar Alonso of course). At the moment, he has got the groove in how to be fast and clever with tyres, fuel loads etc. In your face Alain Prost. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolvingPrawn Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 mike96 said: Yeah he's banned so how about we resume to the topic please :) Agreed! What about Kubica? I can't place him in either the overrated or underrated category, there's just a lot of what if's with him for me. He was a great talent, but would he have gone to Ferrari and become Alonso's no. 2? Would he have stuck with Renault/Lotus and partnered either Raikkonen or Grosjean? I really really wish that his rally crash had never happened :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justbiglee Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Just a lil note you'll see that I've pruned this thread down considerably and a member has been banned for his actions this afternoon.For the most part you all did the right thing by flagging the abusive posts and contacting us and I thank you for that but we absolutely will not tolerate threats of violence towards other members or bullying in any shape or form.Let that be the end of it, please continue with your thread and lets not see a repeat of it please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttonfan Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 RevolvingPrawn said: mike96 said: Yeah he's banned so how about we resume to the topic please :) Agreed! What about Kubica? I can't place him in either the overrated or underrated category, there's just a lot of what if's with him for me. He was a great talent, but would he have gone to Ferrari and become Alonso's no. 2? Would he have stuck with Renault/Lotus and partnered either Raikkonen or Grosjean? I really really wish that his rally crash had never happened :( I'll go with the underrated one. Especially some Renault drives were really good, fighting with the top cars on a number of occasions while the car's pace wasn't there.EDIT: And here's one of his best laps ever in my opinionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD3sWbrEUPY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukedfrt Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Kubica would have been world champion at some point if he hadn't had that crash. incredible talent, Alonso has said he was the best driver he'd raced with as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDDB Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 justbiglee said: Just a lil note you'll see that I've pruned this thread down considerably and a member has been banned for his actions this afternoon.For the most part you all did the right thing by flagging the abusive posts and contacting us and I thank you for that but we absolutely will not tolerate threats of violence towards other members or bullying in any shape or form.Let that be the end of it, please continue with your thread and lets not see a repeat of it please. Thanks Lee. It got a bit out of hand xP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couger1981 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Who got banned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syn Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Our first ban of the new forums? Anyway...MAL is definitely underrated...as a crash test dummy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couger1981 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 The money he brought over to the team will be spent fixing his car lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjsharp2010 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 couger1981 said: The money he brought over to the team will be spent fixing his car lol seems that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMSKRR Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Overrated: Button - He is good, don't get me wrong, but honestly he is nothing too exceptional. Good in changing conditions and with managing tyres but lacks speed in quali. Underrated: Grosjean - some websites like WTF1 still talk about him crashing all the time, which is simply not true. He has had some good Quali performances this year and last year really challenged Kimi in the later half of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukedfrt Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 AMS97KRR said: Overrated: Button - He is good, don't get me wrong, but honestly he is nothing too exceptional. Good in changing conditions and with managing tyres but lacks speed in quali. Underrated: Grosjean - some websites like WTF1 still talk about him crashing all the time, which is simply not true. He has had some good Quali performances this year and last year really challenged Kimi in the later half of the year. I disagree with Button, i think he gets far too much criticism. The man matched Lewis Hamilton 3 years in a row, and i think he's beating Magnusson this year? On phone, too late to check this out haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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