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Anyone using a wheel and an H shifter had success using this car? My H shifter has a 7th gear lockout similar to reverse and it takes so much time to get into 7th that it's not worth it. I'm trying to find good ratios to just use 6 gears, but just can't find them.

Really sucks because it is one of my favorite cars in a favorite class, but that is a deal breaker for it. 

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That Escort WRC is manual sequential, so no wonder you're having trouble with the H shifter.

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2 hours ago, Riggs said:

That Escort WRC is manual sequential, so no wonder you're having trouble with the H shifter.

The 1995 and later versions have a 6 speed manual sequential gearbox. The earlier ones got 7 speed manual H pattern as far as i know. I think the one in the game is the 93 version.

Source: http://tech-racingcars.wikidot.com/ford-escort-mk-v-rs-cosworth

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13 hours ago, cwot said:

The 1995 and later versions have a 6 speed manual sequential gearbox. The earlier ones got 7 speed manual H pattern as far as i know. I think the one in the game is the 93 version.

Source: http://tech-racingcars.wikidot.com/ford-escort-mk-v-rs-cosworth

Nvm for some reason I associated the Escort to the 97 WRC version, which clearly isn't the one in the game.

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I'm using H shifter and have a lot of fun with the 7 gear Cosworth. Naturally I'm not very competitive in it, if I want a good result I stick to Evo because of the sequential gearbox.

By the way, is it correct to assume that Cosworth and Impreza in the group A category have direct manual gearbox, so you shouldn't use the clutch when changing gears to keep things realistic?

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I read that first reply and my head almost exploded thinking I'd been using H shifter on it when I didnt have to. Ha. Actually started using Group B RX with an H shifter and finally looked more closely. That was a nightmare.lmao

Danielofifi, I didn't know that. Are you sure? The clutch doesn't bother me, but the Fanatec shifter has a 7th gear lockout that makes it tricky for rally.  Do you use the same or does yours go into 7th like any other gear? 

Just messing around with the Group A Lancia, using H shifter with clutch vs Sequential, the first option is noticeably quicker. 

 

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6 hours ago, danielofifi said:

 

By the way, is it correct to assume that Cosworth and Impreza in the group A category have direct manual gearbox, so you shouldn't use the clutch when changing gears to keep things realistic?

I had no idea and am glad you said that. Do any other cars have that type of gear box in the game, that you know of? Now I'm excited to give this car another shot tonight. 

Edit: I see the E30 M3 and Stratos have similar transmissions. Had no idea.  Tried the Subaru this way and it will definitely take some practice. Poweshifting doesn't seem as fast, but that could be in my head.

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18 hours ago, DaleRossi said:

 

Danielofifi, I didn't know that. Are you sure? The clutch doesn't bother me, but the Fanatec shifter has a 7th gear lockout that makes it tricky for rally.  Do you use the same or does yours go into 7th like any other gear?

 

Yeah, I'm using Thrustmaster's TH8A with 7 gears + reverse, so I don't have any problems of this kind. I did have some weird problems with my shifter messing with force feedback and slipping gears, but managed to sort it out through some trial and error

 

18 hours ago, DaleRossi said:

I had no idea and am glad you said that. Do any other cars have that type of gear box in the game, that you know of? Now I'm excited to give this car another shot tonight. 

Edit: I see the E30 M3 and Stratos have similar transmissions. Had no idea.  Tried the Subaru this way and it will definitely take some practice. Poweshifting doesn't seem as fast, but that could be in my head. 

 

Group B RX doesn't use H-shifter? Wow, that's something new. So what is it, sequential? For direct manual gearbox I didn't know about Stratos or E30 either. I only knew about group A Cosworth and Subaru. Wish Codemasters would include such information in the game, so that we don't have to search on the net. The same thing goes for the handbrake. I know Group B 4WD and Stratos did not use a handbrake for hairpins, but what about Group B rwd? Can't find any info. Or H2 Alpine, in the game there is no hand animation when you pull the handbrake, does it mean it was missing in real life too? I don't know.

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Well, i have a fanatec SQ shifter and like to play manual or sequential, acording to the car i'm using, but for the cossie (which, by the way, i like a lot) i do cheat and use Sequential mode. It's to much hassle for my skill to use 7 gears in H mode, and i also have the handbrake coupled to the right side of the shifter which makes it even harder to use the 7th gear.

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4 hours ago, danielofifi said:

Yeah, I'm using Thrustmaster's TH8A with 7 gears + reverse, so I don't have any problems of this kind. I did have some weird problems with my shifter messing with force feedback and slipping gears, but managed to sort it out through some trial and error

 

 

Group B RX doesn't use H-shifter? Wow, that's something new. So what is it, sequential? For direct manual gearbox I didn't know about Stratos or E30 either. I only knew about group A Cosworth and Subaru. Wish Codemasters would include such information in the game, so that we don't have to search on the net. The same thing goes for the handbrake. I know Group B 4WD and Stratos did not use a handbrake for hairpins, but what about Group B rwd? Can't find any info. Or H2 Alpine, in the game there is no hand animation when you pull the handbrake, does it mean it was missing in real life too? I don't know.

Some sites said that M3 had a dog box, but looking at the animations in the game, the driver clearly uses a clutch. 

The Group B Peugeot RX at least uses a sequential shifter (not paddles). It is definitely fun with the H shifter, but extremely busy driving RX that way.lol 

No clue on the hand brake, was just under assumption 80s cars didn't use them. 

Definitely agree it would be ideal if these minor details were listed with the actual cars. Speaking of Group B RWD, no love for them for quite a while in the Daily/Weekly/Monthly events. It's like they have just vanished. 

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2 hours ago, Opassac said:

Well, i have a fanatec SQ shifter and like to play manual or sequential, acording to the car i'm using, but for the cossie (which, by the way, i like a lot) i do cheat and use Sequential mode. It's to much hassle for my skill to use 7 gears in H mode, and i also have the handbrake coupled to the right side of the shifter which makes it even harder to use the 7th gear.

Same here. I think you can adjust it so 7th is easier to get into, but I'm not positive. Had the hand brake on there, but it was too much for my rig. So, I returned it and got another rim. Went with the new F1 rim for Assetto and PCars. Miss having the handbrake but I dont use it a whole lot other than RX, in which case I'll just use the clutch for it.

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Unless they change the in-game description to sequential for the Peugeot GrB RX I'll just keep using H pattern.. :classic_laugh: haven't tried it in seq. H pattern is too much fun.

But thanks good info on the different real life box configurations. 👍

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On 6/26/2019 at 9:06 PM, DaleRossi said:

Same here. I think you can adjust it so 7th is easier to get into, but I'm not positive. Had the hand brake on there, but it was too much for my rig. So, I returned it and got another rim. Went with the new F1 rim for Assetto and PCars. Miss having the handbrake but I dont use it a whole lot other than RX, in which case I'll just use the clutch for it.

Handbrake puts quite a lot of leverage through the rig hey! I fatigued the weld around the original mount stem I had it on and had to remount somewhere more rigid - added a bit of extra rigidity to the rig with a tie down strap!. Gotta do what it takes to keep using that handbrakey goodness!

Don't think you can adjust 7th. It's gated you have to press the shifter down while it's nuetral. Unless you modify the gate plate the shift tension adjustment won't change the gate action. 

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1 hour ago, KoAStR said:

Handbrake puts quite a lot of leverage through the rig hey! I fatigued the weld around the original mount stem I had it on and had to remount somewhere more rigid - added a bit of extra rigidity to the rig with a tie down strap!. Gotta do what it takes to keep using that handbrakey goodness!

Don't think you can adjust 7th. It's gated you have to press the shifter down while it's nuetral. Unless you modify the gate plate the shift tension adjustment won't change the gate action. 

Yeah it does! My stand is pretty sturdy, but just not enough.  It's an old Xceler8r stand and I recently upgraded to the new Clubsport components that have a lot more weight and force. So, for sequential cars I use clutch pedal for handbrake and for H shifter cars, I use the left paddle. It isnt ideal, but I like it better than just a button.

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