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7 minutes ago, BluntRS said:

Everyone has the right to do what he wants, HE ? abit of a assumption but whatever, but am glad you agree, look forward to your support in my thread 😎

Well on a normal game with the options a host has, I think youll find forcing cockpit is Global, well for serious racers anyway.

I'll check out your thread of course and if I agree, I'll support. 

 

Regarding serious racers, I assume they will want to get into the eSports series on F1 to be picked by the actual teams and get known. eSports is currently TV Pod view racers as they do get an advantage in seeing more in that view and so unless they can compete with TV Pod view using cockpit view, why oh why would they want to just stick with cockpit when Codies don't enforce cockpit only? They probably will never enforce this and so if they want to be truly serious and do something about it, then TV Pod is the way to go. Giving the option to lock to cockpit only won't force Codies hands for the big comps.

 

For more the fun side of it all or less serious racing leagues, they would use cockpit but not for serious comps I'd say. I don't even know if codies enforce no assists for eSports (TC, ABS I mean).

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2 minutes ago, martbloke said:

I'll check out your thread of course and if I agree, I'll support. 

 

Regarding serious racers, I assume they will want to get into the eSports series on F1 to be picked by the actual teams and get known. eSports is currently TV Pod view racers as they do get an advantage in seeing more in that view and so unless they can compete with TV Pod view using cockpit view, why oh why would they want to just stick with cockpit when Codies don't enforce cockpit only? They probably will never enforce this and so if they want to be truly serious and do something about it, then TV Pod is the way to go. Giving the option to lock to cockpit only won't force Codies hands for the big comps.

 

For more the fun side of it all or less serious racing leagues, they would use cockpit but not for serious comps I'd say. I don't even know if codies enforce no assists for eSports (TC, ABS I mean).

ESports I think one or two have switched cockpit, I may be wrong, however if they did enforced it, players would adapt, and I would watch it, but the impression I get online about F1 Esprts is most think its a joke.

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The problem for Codemasters to not force cockpit view in eSports is, if they do it they have to think about the next problems, like look into mirrors. :classic_happy:

At the end of the day, it's only a game.

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10 minutes ago, Akkan74 said:

The problem for Codemasters to not force cockpit view in eSports is, if they do it they have to think about the next problems, like look into mirrors. :classic_happy:

At the end of the day, it's only a game.

Yes only a game which doesnt cater for all players, it doesnt matter if its arcade, simcade, or simulation, options dont force anybody to do anything they want to,

Esports in my opinion should atleast of 2 tiers, any view and assits, then cockpit no assits, see many players practise to move up into the cockpit series,

At the moment thier is zero incentive or encouragement,  

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16 hours ago, BluntRS said:

Do some laps in TV Pod, the extra grip and traction is disgusting, 

It's a huge advantage, I just don't use it. Same in Dirt, AC, and PCars. It costs me some time, but if I wanted to do that I would go back to Forza. There just aren't many options on console, but at least there are a couple good ones.

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25 minutes ago, Akkan74 said:

The problem for Codemasters to not force cockpit view in eSports is, if they do it they have to think about the next problems, like look into mirrors. :classic_happy:

At the end of the day, it's only a game.

Maybe they could offer a virtual mirror for those that dont have triple monitors.:-/

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16 hours ago, BluntRS said:

Do some laps in TV Pod, the extra grip and traction is disgusting, 

Hahaha.....I’ve never noticed more grip and traction in T-Cam vs cockpit. I love cockpit mode and in TT’s can match my times (i’m normally a top 10% runner) in either view in elite mode.

However when racing in my league I find that it’s a lot harder to actually race in a crowd in cockpit mode without any mirrors and since Codemasters refuses to add a virtual mirror I race in T-Cam mode more often than not in the league. Yes, I know you’re gonna say, do you see virtual mirrors on real F1 cars?? but they can at least see their wing mirrors at a glance. With us, unless you are using triple screens you have no hope! I think it’s just a lot fairer for everyone and cleaner racing when you use T-Cam in a crowded lobby.

Yes, it probably is that little easier too as the spacial awareness is a lot more. You’re a little higher and it’s easier to spot the apex’ etc. Not to mention the mirrors can also be used. However it’s not quicker with more traction and grip. I would also love for an option like yourself to be included that forces Cockpit view but I think to promote good clean racing with that they would have to also include a virtual mirror toggle. 

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34 minutes ago, Gussie said:

Hahaha.....I’ve never noticed more grip and traction in T-Cam vs cockpit. I love cockpit mode and in TT’s can match my times (i’m normally a top 10% runner) in either view in elite mode.

However when racing in my league I find that it’s a lot harder to actually race in a crowd in cockpit mode without any mirrors and since Codemasters refuses to add a virtual mirror I race in T-Cam mode more often than not in the league. Yes, I know you’re gonna say, do you see virtual mirrors on real F1 cars?? but they can at least see their wing mirrors at a glance. With us, unless you are using triple screens you have no hope! I think it’s just a lot fairer for everyone and cleaner racing when you use T-Cam in a crowded lobby.

Yes, it probably is that little easier too as the spacial awareness is a lot more. You’re a little higher and it’s easier to spot the apex’ etc. Not to mention the mirrors can also be used. However it’s not quicker with more traction and grip. I would also love for an option like yourself to be included that forces Cockpit view but I think to promote good clean racing with that they would have to also include a virtual mirror toggle. 

You may have not noticed more grip and traction in TV Pod cam but many have inc myself,

I use a single screen and have no issues seeing my mirrors wilst racing, its a myth thier not thier / useable,

No its a LOT easyier, its quicker, and it has more traction, thats why so many use TV Pod cam, 

They dont need to inc a virtual mirror to promote clean racing, thats what proximinty arrows where inc for, and that was a epic fail.

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34 minutes ago, BluntRS said:

You may have not noticed more grip and traction in TV Pod cam but many have inc myself,

I use a single screen and have no issues seeing my mirrors wilst racing, its a myth thier not thier / useable,

No its a LOT easyier, its quicker, and it has more traction, thats why so many use TV Pod cam, 

They dont need to inc a virtual mirror to promote clean racing, thats what proximinty arrows where inc for, and that was a epic fail.

More traction with t-cam? Never heard of it and never realized something like that. I have the same pace and the same feeling in cockpit vs. t-cam. Is there any data or reasons about it or is it again one of these "if they are faster than me, it must be an assist/exploit"?

 

1 hour ago, Gussie said:

Hahaha.....I’ve never noticed more grip and traction in T-Cam vs cockpit. I love cockpit mode and in TT’s can match my times (i’m normally a top 10% runner) in either view in elite mode.

However when racing in my league I find that it’s a lot harder to actually race in a crowd in cockpit mode without any mirrors and since Codemasters refuses to add a virtual mirror I race in T-Cam mode more often than not in the league. Yes, I know you’re gonna say, do you see virtual mirrors on real F1 cars?? but they can at least see their wing mirrors at a glance. With us, unless you are using triple screens you have no hope! I think it’s just a lot fairer for everyone and cleaner racing when you use T-Cam in a crowded lobby.

Yes, it probably is that little easier too as the spacial awareness is a lot more. You’re a little higher and it’s easier to spot the apex’ etc. Not to mention the mirrors can also be used. However it’s not quicker with more traction and grip. I would also love for an option like yourself to be included that forces Cockpit view but I think to promote good clean racing with that they would have to also include a virtual mirror toggle. 

I bought TrackIR5 for driving in cockpit view. It's not cheap but a lot of fun. First it needed some work, because it was easy and fine to look through the corner, but i forgot the steering. :classic_happy:

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1 minute ago, Akkan74 said:

More traction with t-cam? Never heard of it and never realized something like that. I have the same pace and the same feeling in cockpit vs. t-cam. Is there any data or reasons about it or is it again one of these "if they are faster than me, it must be an assist/exploit"?

 

I bought TrackIR5 for driving in cockpit view. It's not cheap but a lot of fun. First it needed some work, because it was easy and fine to look through the corner, but i forgot the steering. :classic_happy:

Many say it is, many say it isnt, whos right, whos wrong well never know, all we know is, a option to force cockpit in multiplayer lobbys like so many games have, is much needed, added benefit inc I would no longer come on this forum requesting such a basic feature, win win for everybody 😎

Nah I leave the it must be a assist/ exploit to the Self Pro Claimed "Pro's" hence why I ask for options, not for anything to be banned,

 

Ideally thats what I would I like, however no support on Xbox.

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8 minutes ago, BluntRS said:

Many say it is, many say it isnt, whos right, whos wrong well never know, all we know is, a option to force cockpit in multiplayer lobbys like so many games have, is much needed, added benefit inc I would no longer come on this forum requesting such a basic feature, win win for everybody 😎

Nah I leave the it must be a assist/ exploit to the Self Pro Claimed "Pro's" hence why I ask for options, not for anything to be banned,

 

Ideally thats what I would I like, however no support on Xbox.

I think unless it's a major bug (which I doubt it is), there are no differences to traction as it's just a camera. An angle from which you see your driving view. If anything it's just an illusion given to the player that makes it feel like the physics of the car are completely different in each camera view.

 

For instance I cannot use those stupid behind car views (not the TV Pod) as I cannot gauge how the car is reacting when turning from that view so the handling seems sluggish or over the top when I know nothing is different to cockpit cam. It's just my perception as it's a different view. If I was to use that view all the time, I'd get used to it and it would feel like it does when I drive in cockpit cam.

 

No traction difference at all.

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12 minutes ago, BluntRS said:

Many say it is, many say it isnt, whos right, whos wrong well never know, all we know is, a option to force cockpit in multiplayer lobbys like so many games have, is much needed, added benefit inc I would no longer come on this forum requesting such a basic feature, win win for everybody 😎

Nah I leave the it must be a assist/ exploit to the Self Pro Claimed "Pro's" hence why I ask for options, not for anything to be banned,

 

Ideally thats what I would I like, however no support on Xbox.

I just read another thread that said multiplayer lobbied are deserted for 25% races, two weeks after release,  and you want to create yet another thing to divide the player base even more?

Don't get me wrong, I don't really disagree it would be great to have it in an ideal situation, but it just doesn't make sense right now. I guess a workaround could be to create a league with a gentlemen's agreement for everyone to use the same settings.

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29 minutes ago, martbloke said:

I think unless it's a major bug (which I doubt it is), there are no differences to traction as it's just a camera. An angle from which you see your driving view. If anything it's just an illusion given to the player that makes it feel like the physics of the car are completely different in each camera view.

 

For instance I cannot use those stupid behind car views (not the TV Pod) as I cannot gauge how the car is reacting when turning from that view so the handling seems sluggish or over the top when I know nothing is different to cockpit cam. It's just my perception as it's a different view. If I was to use that view all the time, I'd get used to it and it would feel like it does when I drive in cockpit cam.

 

No traction difference at all.

Thats sounds logical, all I know is when I tried it was up 1.2 instantly.

 

27 minutes ago, Andrew210227 said:

I just read another thread that said multiplayer lobbied are deserted for 25% races, two weeks after release,  and you want to create yet another thing to divide the player base even more?

Don't get me wrong, I don't really disagree it would be great to have it in an ideal situation, but it just doesn't make sense right now. I guess a workaround could be to create a league with a gentlemen's agreement for everyone to use the same settings.

 Yes and no,

Yes it would divide some that already are online, but also a lot say they dont care who uses what,

No cause it would encourage more players online,

People I race with inc myself wont race online, due to that very reason, they added cockpit, wed be online in public.

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1 hour ago, BluntRS said:

Thats sounds logical, all I know is when I tried it was up 1.2 instantly.

 

 Yes and no,

Yes it would divide some that already are online, but also a lot say they dont care who uses what,

No cause it would encourage more players online,

People I race with inc myself wont race online, due to that very reason, they added cockpit, wed be online in public.

Great points, I'd actually buy the game if I could race other people with the same mindset as me online. I'd rather have small grid races with only 4 or 5 clean drivers but with everyone using the same assists and view rather than full fields where us 4 or 5 are outnumbered 4 to 1 by idiots. By idiots I don't mean inexperienced racers but deliberate wreckers. 

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3 hours ago, sloppysmusic said:

Great points, I'd actually buy the game if I could race other people with the same mindset as me online. I'd rather have small grid races with only 4 or 5 clean drivers but with everyone using the same assists and view rather than full fields where us 4 or 5 are outnumbered 4 to 1 by idiots. By idiots I don't mean inexperienced racers but deliberate wreckers. 

@Codemasters @Hoo @Faya Gamer has cash to spend, and I would bet many more like him,

Could you post Lee Mathers email or mobile please ?

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