Jump to content
Christmas Period - Codemasters Staff and Support Read more... ×

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

F1 2019 ranked needs a lot of work/ Balancing, no more AI drivers/assists

Recommended Posts

So i just started to play ranked in hopes for more serious races since in unranked most people will just crash and be anoying. 

I would think ranked matches will be serious like e-sports material. 
So ranked allows all assists, ranked allows people to pause the game and let AI finish the race for them?

I've seen people who where losing a lot of time, and couldn't make their turns, they just pop the AI and it finishes the race in first place since they took like 30 second gap in the first round. AI will just cruize to the end withouth any mistakes. 

I like racing, but i like it without assists. How in hell am i supposed to race when everyone has all assists on, and let AI drive? There is completely no balance, and the races are just unfair for those who actually want the race to be somewhat realistic.

Codemasters reall did not put one second of thought in Ranked matches. It should be balanced, but it is far from, and to call it ranked is one of the biggest jokes since EA. 

Really Codemasters, you ****** this up, now please create a real ranked for us who actually want to race. 

- No more pause menu/AI drives. If you press escape, great, you will go really slow to the next exit. 

- No more assists, ranked is meant for serious play/e-sports. The way for me to win is to turn on assists and just go arcade style over the track.

- Punish people who keep getting penalties, take away their coins and ban them for x amount of time.

- Make it possible for me to create a ranked match myself, or at least make it possible for me and my friends to join the same ranked matches. 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Agree with your post the one I do think they will struggle with is "punish people who keep getting penaltys" because you get penalised for an incident that's totally not your fault...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, gtfclad82 said:

Agree with your post the one I do think they will struggle with is "punish people who keep getting penaltys" because you get penalised for an incident that's totally not your fault...

You're right, i didn't think that one through.

Since indeed you get penalties for getting hit in the behind they first would need to fix the penalty system. But perhaps a votekick/voteban from session would help in getting rid of people who keep crashing into people on purpose.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, AlexTT said:

Take a look at this post, you're not alone

 

Oh he really put effort in it as well. Great to see there are a lot of people with the same issues. I really hope Codemasters will take this seriously. 

I can see F1 e-sports become something, but not with rules like this. Codemansters really need to up their game. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I was about to buy the game to play MP for the first time when I found out assist drivers don't get a speed advantage any longer but when I found out the format of the ranked /unranked I quickly put back my credit card in my wallet. I'd be stunned if this changed until the next game if then as they have their hands full with full on bug fixing and performance optimizing. Changing the whole way the MP works would be a major design change. For an annual game just after launch with a limited shelf life that would likely cause more complaints than those it would solve. I feel for ya and won't buy it for that reason but I think sadly you guys are [insert inappropriate word of choice here].... 

:classic_unsure:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, sloppysmusic said:

I was about to buy the game to play MP for the first time when I found out assist drivers don't get a speed advantage any longer but when I found out the format of the ranked /unranked I quickly put back my credit card in my wallet. I'd be stunned if this changed until the next game if then as they have their hands full with full on bug fixing and performance optimizing. Changing the whole way the MP works would be a major design change. For an annual game just after launch with a limited shelf life that would likely cause more complaints than those it would solve. I feel for ya and won't buy it for that reason but I think sadly you guys are [insert inappropriate word of choice here].... 

:classic_unsure:

I also was thinking that assist users are no longer beeing the priority for CM according to first posts on the forum, but after a couple races it's 2017 and 2018 all over again where everything is built to serve the assist users and CM just don't even care about te non assist users just like they do every year. They really don't care about the non assist players. They show it every time again. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, AlexTT said:

I also was thinking that assist users are no longer beeing the priority for CM according to first posts on the forum, but after a couple races it's 2017 and 2018 all over again where everything is built to serve the assist users and CM just don't even care about te non assist users just like they do every year. They really don't care about the non assist players. They show it every time again. 

Yup spot on mate. The stick is there but the carrot on the end is rotten. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 7/8/2019 at 6:53 PM, piksaus said:

So i just started to play ranked in hopes for more serious races since in unranked most people will just crash and be anoying. 

I would think ranked matches will be serious like e-sports material. 
So ranked allows all assists, ranked allows people to pause the game and let AI finish the race for them?

I've seen people who where losing a lot of time, and couldn't make their turns, they just pop the AI and it finishes the race in first place since they took like 30 second gap in the first round. AI will just cruize to the end withouth any mistakes. 

I like racing, but i like it without assists. How in hell am i supposed to race when everyone has all assists on, and let AI drive? There is completely no balance, and the races are just unfair for those who actually want the race to be somewhat realistic.

Codemasters reall did not put one second of thought in Ranked matches. It should be balanced, but it is far from, and to call it ranked is one of the biggest jokes since EA. 

Really Codemasters, you ****** this up, now please create a real ranked for us who actually want to race. 

- No more pause menu/AI drives. If you press escape, great, you will go really slow to the next exit. 

- No more assists, ranked is meant for serious play/e-sports. The way for me to win is to turn on assists and just go arcade style over the track.

- Punish people who keep getting penalties, take away their coins and ban them for x amount of time.

- Make it possible for me to create a ranked match myself, or at least make it possible for me and my friends to join the same ranked matches. 

 

Funnily enough, I was ignorant of what to expect by playing ranked, and naive in thinking (or hoping) pretty much the same thing as you. I obviously gave others too much respect and consideration to the 'wild fantasy' of hoping that this game attracted the more serious online racers. NOT SO!

On my first day of playing ranked I got in with a group of guys from Europe (Holland, Germany, Denmark, France, U.K.) that seemed to enjoy racing fairly and properly. There were a lot of good races and I ended up with a silver "B" grade [72%] super-licence. However, I have since found that this initial day was a rarity, not the general rule.

The second day of playing ranked I was perpetually rammed, forced off the track and/or into barriers and/or terminal [race-ending] objects like the pit wall, in ALL races except one where i crashed out. By the end of the second day my super-licence was a Bronze "D" grade [48%]. I did my very best to avoid incidents but the nutters I was racing against weren't racing. They were playing GTA 5 in the F1 2019 game. When I tried to overtake they obviously tried to block (most by weaving) and when i was overtaking they would ram into me most of the time. Some of the time I was rammed from behind on purpose to get me out of the way, and I incurred the penalty! [***?^^] It's a prime example of ruining your chances of achieving better results than them. That's not racing. That's not competition. It's a childish mentality of trying to stop you beating them. Quite a few players laughed, scoffed, or offered some derogatory comment on the in-game audio when they did something unsporting.

One player, "f.marci.b" in a Brazil 5-lap race, just drove around ramming into people and ruining the entire event for everyone. I do not understand why anybody would think that this was acceptable or appropriate. Unless they were 12 years old, or an age where that sort of thing seems to be the most intelligent thing they can think of to have "fun" at other people's expense.

Ranked races at the moment are a noob-fest of carnage. There simply is NO WAY you can enter a ranked race and expect to enjoy a good competitive event, or other players to be fair and sportsmanlike. NO WAY! It completely ruins the ranked experience and is a blemish on the enjoyment of the game in general. The problem is, how do you stop it?

My thoughts in reply to your suggestions are;

"- Punish people who keep getting penalties, take away their coins and ban them for x amount of time." = Add points to their super-licence. The more points they incur in a certain amount of time dicates the seriousness of the ban. If you say [for example] when your super-licence has 12 points you are disqualified from ranked events for 7 days. If those 12 points have been accrued in a 24 hour period the ban could be 14 days, if those 12 points were accrued in an hour then the ban could be 28 days. etc. Any financial costs would also be deducted accordingly.

One thing I very much dislike is the way "exceeding track limits" is calculated and programmed because it's not consistent or realistic in any way. On some tracks I put 1 wheel over the white line and I'm penalised, and the same thing on the kerbs! Err... that's what her kerbs are there for??? It just doesn't make sense because it's so inaccurate and seems arbitrary.

Another thing that doesn't make sense in career mode is the driver deciding what new parts and development is researched within the team. The driver usualy plays no part in anything to do with the design and decisions of upgrades and modifications. The driver just tests any new changes. In the real world that's how it is.

The reason why many, many things don't make sense in F1 2019 game is because games-players built it and not F1 fans, and it shows. Geoff Crammond could teach these Codemasters a thing or two about F1 simulators, I'm sure.

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

×