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30 minutes ago, StanleyGoodspeed said:

I agree, I’d love to see SMS make a more realistic F1 sim (big F1 fan and I love PC2!). But as mentioned above, it’s not likely. Casual is where the money is, that’s why we have mtx in the game now. 

I enjoy the F1 games for what they are, but they’re basicly kids games. I’ll race in a closed league witha friend or I’ll do a single player championship, but I’m done racing online with 9-year old Joe-Bob and his battering ram with premium liveries. 

For more realistic racing, I look elsewhere.

Regardless, I’ll support your petition, maybe I’m wrong, who knows.

The "most realistic kids game" evah!

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20 minutes ago, SturmDesTodes said:

THIS.

 

Star Wars Battlefront 2 by EA comes into mind, community made EA reconsider and change strategy to create "better" products.

 

I personally thought that F1 2015 would have been the final straw, or at the very least the stolen Ferrari F20002 and the extremely bad MP performance in F1 2017, but no, community was silent, no mentioning in any news outlets, no outrage, just a bunch of reddit posts, a handful of threads on CMs and on Racedepartments Forums.

 

Crickets.

 

Even worse, many people were defending CM and no official explanations or apologies were given by CM themselves.

 

Meanwhile casual threads such as the one with tyre temperatures last year and or assists had the highest traffic and participation to make the game easier, and CM yielded to that wish to make the casual audience happy at the expense of NA players.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

True bro. At least there are a few and not only me who have the guts to speak out. Every year it's complaining but no action. Safety car... how many years? Setups changing online... how many years? Region filtering... say what? FANATEC OFFICIAL SUPPLIER WHOSE BUTTONS HALF DON'T WORK! What about that one? That must be the biggest joke of them all. Fanatec as official partner for F1, makes hardware wheels as if it's porn, and CM??? Doesn't give a ****. Why should they dig into how to programm al these buttons? Come on, we just fooled everyone that we did 2 years on this edition, while it's just a copy with a new menu flavour. We're much too lazy and don't care how you can use all those shiny button thingy's on that wheel. 

Talk about making yourself look like a complete and utter failure in that perspective. Or FFB that goes hard right on the official partner base. Would love to see how that goes live on esports. 

What a great way to advertise your product would that be? 20 wheels at the start.... BANG!!!!🤣

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The core game is serviceable. The idiotic decisions for MP and general Apathy towards it is frustrating. 

If I'm not in a ranked lobby, I will only join Ghost MP. That solves a lot of the problems right off the bat. 

And yeah, 25% ranked is a ghost town. Maybe make the only choices in ranked as 25% and 50% with zero assists. Or just ghost the damn things.

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Finally! Ive been commenting for weeks saying how the games online play will NEVER get fixed because it caters for the mass casual player only, but keep getting down voted for my troubles. I also refused to buy this year's game or another one unless major changes are made. As for the core game not being that broken, I should hope not as it's basically cut and paste career each year with minor cosmetic changes plus cars that drive differently. That's it! I support positive action for change and improvement for a racing series game that should be the yardstick by which others are judged by. People should look at any new racing game and wonder "let's see how it compares with the F1 games". 

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Is somebody able to list out all the flaws and bugs in the game for me? Feel free to make the list grow, i'm heading to the hospital now so help would be appreciated.

then i can start working on the petition after

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Another great example: 

and setting a 1.10 at canada, with the way this one is driving. How can you take anything serious from CM?🥳 this shows what a joke it is.

i mean... COME OOOON!!!!😂 how does CM make a fool out of themselves? Well, by supporting this kind of driving because this is how it's done in real life too. So realistic everrrrrr! 

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3 hours ago, AlexTT said:

Is somebody able to list out all the flaws and bugs in the game for me? Feel free to make the list grow, i'm heading to the hospital now so help would be appreciated.

then i can start working on the petition after

For accuracy you're probably best just sitting down and going through the forum since release and writing all the thread titles down. Going through threads themselves is too much work. Then once you have these listed other people like us can add concise info below the titles to briefly explain what the issue is. Calmly without getting upset if that's possible! 

If you're wanting to actually effect change then the complaint list has to match the forums anyway as that's the only leverage you have to show the complaints the devs have seen are generally being ignored. 

The more professionally this is done the more chance of success. Sadly due to the amount of issues it's gonna be a huge job just listing them in the first place. Cut and pasting thread titles would be a great start then editing them to make sense, replacing all the "omg this game sucks" titles with actual info. 

I'd actually do that myself but sadly as I'm in the USA the forums run so slow for me it takes too long to switch between pages. Good luck you have my support! 

Once you have the thread titles listed and numbered people can volunteer to fill in the info for 1 to 5 6 to 10 etc etc making it a group effort. 

If Codies are reading this we just want a better game! 

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I've given up on them trying to get decent physics even though Assetto Corsa has had them on console for Years.

At this point, just give a decent Sim option for multiplayer.  I mean even in the weekly I have to fight AI. 

For all ranked etc all damage etc needs to be On, even if players are ghosted. Overreving the **** out of the motor like the video above would destroy the car.

And lastly, if a driver is using TV pod, that is fine. But he needs to be ejected 300 yards the first time he hits the brakes or turns. That, and it should create an incredible amount of drag.

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10 minutes ago, DaleRossi said:

I've given up on them trying to get decent physics even though Assetto Corsa has had them on console for Years.

At this point, just give a decent Sim option for multiplayer.  I mean even in the weekly I have to fight AI. 

For all ranked etc all damage etc needs to be On, even if players are ghosted. Overreving the **** out of the motor like the video above would destroy the car.

And lastly, if a driver is using TV pod, that is fine. But he needs to be ejected 300 yards the first time he hits the brakes or turns. That, and it should create an incredible amount of drag.

They did say they was monitoring player feedback, to decide what options to add later on, true or false I dunno,

 All I know is they dont come this year, time to move on,

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1 hour ago, sloppysmusic said:

For accuracy you're probably best just sitting down and going through the forum since release and writing all the thread titles down. Going through threads themselves is too much work. Then once you have these listed other people like us can add concise info below the titles to briefly explain what the issue is. Calmly without getting upset if that's possible! 

If you're wanting to actually effect change then the complaint list has to match the forums anyway as that's the only leverage you have to show the complaints the devs have seen are generally being ignored. 

The more professionally this is done the more chance of success. Sadly due to the amount of issues it's gonna be a huge job just listing them in the first place. Cut and pasting thread titles would be a great start then editing them to make sense, replacing all the "omg this game sucks" titles with actual info. 

I'd actually do that myself but sadly as I'm in the USA the forums run so slow for me it takes too long to switch between pages. Good luck you have my support! 

Once you have the thread titles listed and numbered people can volunteer to fill in the info for 1 to 5 6 to 10 etc etc making it a group effort. 

If Codies are reading this we just want a better game! 

That's why i am asking you guys for help please. I don't have that much time since i need to go to the hospital too, so help would be appreciated. Plus it gives another signal how the community comes together to make a statement.

don't care if it helps or not, making this statement is a step in the right direction.

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56 minutes ago, DaleRossi said:

I've given up on them trying to get decent physics even though Assetto Corsa has had them on console for Years.

At this point, just give a decent Sim option for multiplayer.  I mean even in the weekly I have to fight AI. 

For all ranked etc all damage etc needs to be On, even if players are ghosted. Overreving the **** out of the motor like the video above would destroy the car.

And lastly, if a driver is using TV pod, that is fine. But he needs to be ejected 300 yards the first time he hits the brakes or turns. That, and it should create an incredible amount of drag.

And that AI is just as if not worse than the dirty dozen🤣

but anyway... if we work together there's no way CM nor FOM can ignore this. Social media everything needs to be done

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2 hours ago, AlexTT said:

And that AI is just as if not worse than the dirty dozen🤣

but anyway... if we work together there's no way CM nor FOM can ignore this. Social media everything needs to be done

Might be worth setting up a list in the gt planet F1 forums. I don't think its ethical or fair to start a serious campaign up lobbying for change on Codies own forums. We've already complained here and noted how effective it hasn't been. It would also be totally within their TOS rights to delete any such posts and /or users defaming the game on their own forums. It's also not up to the actual devs themselves what they fix or change there's usually a project manager who assigns work out to programmers that aligns to corporate policy coming down from above. 

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44 minutes ago, sloppysmusic said:

Might be worth setting up a list in the gt planet F1 forums. I don't think its ethical or fair to start a serious campaign up lobbying for change on Codies own forums. We've already complained here and noted how effective it hasn't been. It would also be totally within their TOS rights to delete any such posts and /or users defaming the game on their own forums. It's also not up to the actual devs themselves what they fix or change there's usually a project manager who assigns work out to programmers that aligns to corporate policy coming down from above. 

I dont have a gtplanet account, but i can make one? If you can open something and pm a link to me?

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6 hours ago, AlexTT said:

I dont have a gtplanet account, but i can make one? If you can open something and pm a link to me?

Definitely worth having an account there if you love racing at all. Covers all the major games. Great community! 

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/board/f1-2019/

Above is latest F1 game forum. Best game racing site bar none! Impartial and friendly. 

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The gearbox, the gearbox lol. What in the world is going on? It should be blowing up from the way drivers/players are downshifting. And the car damage is on reduced version of simulation. @AlexTT thanks for noticing this. I got beat in the braking zone by someone over reeving the engine whilst downshifting. @Faya the gearbox needs to be looked. @sloppysmusic how long have you been a member of GTPlanet? It's not all what you think it is.  

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1 hour ago, Striker_703 said:

The gearbox, the gearbox lol. What in the world is going on? It should be blowing up from the way drivers/players are downshifting. And the car damage is on reduced version of simulation. @AlexTT thanks for noticing this. I got beat in the braking zone by someone over reeving the engine whilst downshifting. @Faya the gearbox needs to be looked. @sloppysmusic how long have you been a member of GTPlanet? It's not all what you think it is.  

I can keep on making these clips all day long🤪

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On 7/26/2019 at 11:12 PM, BluntRS said:

While most not all, use TV Pod, only relaying a on proximinty arrow to change colour, and some not all cockpit drivers who dont map thier look left or right buttons cause theirs not enough buttons :classic_rolleyes:

Online will allways be a no go zone,

Your basically racing TT drivers with blinkers on,

This id the reason i avoid online, TT drivers who are trying to drive tt times while racing.... No race craft, no spacial awarness.... Codemasters have created some **** show to be honest. 

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Cant complain about the gearbox if it is 'reduced' damage hence the name, it won't blow up, that's what 'full damage' and 'simulation damage' are for. 

I run in leagues with people on these modes and assists and its great, the majority is happy with how it is, great close racing. Its a mass market game, there is no point in drastic changes to this years game that will impact many and affect the leagues and players that are currently running and happy, not to mention it pushes bugs that need fixed right now further back. BluntRS proposal of allowing multiple settings for people to choose and host who to race against is a better solution.

What you guys need and should be asking for as its an easy solution for them to implement is a 'Sim Ranked' area in the ranked section of the game, where you can have no assists and the damage you want etc

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7 minutes ago, TomAAA said:

Cant complain about the gearbox if it is 'reduced' damage hence the name, it won't blow up, that's what 'full damage' and 'simulation damage' are for. 

I run in leagues with people on these modes and assists and its great, the majority is happy with how it is, great close racing. Its a mass market game, there is no point in drastic changes to this years game that will impact many and affect the leagues and players that are currently running and happy, not to mention it pushes bugs that need fixed right now further back. BluntRS proposal of allowing multiple settings for people to choose and host who to race against is a better solution.

What you guys need and should be asking for as its an easy solution for them to implement is a 'Sim Ranked' area in the ranked section of the game, where you can have no assists and the damage you want etc

Have you tried shifting like that without TC and ABS? You would get dizzy as **** from spinning round and round and maybe you get points if you spin pitlane in in a good fashion. Why defend that? It's too ridiculous for words how people abuse/exploit assists and look how they drive. There should be no way in hell that such driving should reward a 1.10 at canada. It should be impossible. 

What has to be done? Simple!

first make gold "SKILL" status meaningfull. Want to go for gold status? Git gud, only possible to get to gold status without at least TC and ABS. Experience the things NA players face when you have to do it yourself. Makes it also a lesson in racing etiquette. After that gold status can only be held when using NA. Not possible to go back to exploiting once you have it. 

MAKE IT SOMETHING EARNABLE AND WHAT TAKES ACTUAL EFFORT TO ACHIEVE.

after that only gold skill players can get in the same lobby, not mixed with others. Dirty tricks will be punished so hard you lose status instantly.

This will result in much more quality lobbies with much more cleaner and thus better racing, and more FUN! 

Gold should be what it stands for, something only achieveable through learning and mastering NA. I hate to call it elite, hate that word. But it does give an incentive to actually put in the work. Gives it some form of value. Bragging rights that YOU can drive 1000hp without trainingwheels.

 

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They took a new step in development and the software is still in development. I applaud them for that. @TomAAA is correct, it's a title for the masses. We're here to help further along the development. The input we give valid. Getting anger with the team is not the way to go. Help them solve the trouble, not make it worse.  

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@Striker_703 Agree with you. Its a mainstream title, and that's where they get the funding to continue on. I and the majority of others like it how it is, its getting rave reviews and I've had a blast online etc. The issue seems to be with the more sim or hardcore focused players. Thats why I think instead of ripping the team and trying to get them to radically overhaul things or change things that the mainstream player base likes and risk angering the main player base the more measured approach would be to create a space in the game for the more sim focused player to race with other like minded sim focused players.

Thats why the suggestion of a 'Sim Ranked' section where no assists are allowed etc is the best solution. The game carries on as it is, how the mainstream like it but the more 'Sim' minded racer like yourself and others would have your own space in the game to race how you wish with other like minded racers. A simple addition of a 'Sim Ranked' tab solves the main issue raised. Also by allowing more settings for the host to pick and choose and allow players to see what are set would allow more like minded racers to race together

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11 hours ago, Striker_703 said:

The gearbox, the gearbox lol. What in the world is going on? It should be blowing up from the way drivers/players are downshifting. And the car damage is on reduced version of simulation. @AlexTT thanks for noticing this. I got beat in the braking zone by someone over reeving the engine whilst downshifting. @Faya the gearbox needs to be looked. @sloppysmusic how long have you been a member of GTPlanet? It's not all what you think it is.  

A few years. It's only as good as its members of course but my point is that it's a neutral venue if people want keep complaining about codemasters. I'm not saying it's  a big influence on world politics or trendy people copying trendy things for millions of disposable likes. Reddit is probably better for Hardcore ranting and raving. I don't care myself Ive said multiple times in these forums that the gsme is for the masses and will never change so complaining is pointless. Make suggestions then play other games instead of trying to make a game into the sim only a few want. I get down voted a lot when I say complaining about it not being sim like or fair online is pointless. Here we go again lol.?! 

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18 minutes ago, sloppysmusic said:

A few years. It's only as good as its members of course but my point is that it's a neutral venue if people want keep complaining about codemasters. I'm not saying it's  a big influence on world politics or trendy people copying trendy things for millions of disposable likes. Reddit is probably better for Hardcore ranting and raving. I don't care myself Ive said multiple times in these forums that the gsme is for the masses and will never change so complaining is pointless. Make suggestions then play other games instead of trying to make a game into the sim only a few want. I get down voted a lot when I say complaining about it not being sim like or fair online is pointless. Here we go again lol.?! 

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I was a little worried for a moment LOL. Ranting and raving with developers will get you no where. I use to be one lol. Yes GT Planet can be a good source for sim-racing title information but the community is very toxic. I use to be a member of that forum until I got sick of members and mods cherry picking members to pick on just because they voiced their thoughts. I voiced my thoughts and was banded for it. From then on I became famous within the forums lol. The forum is nothing more than a dictatorship. 

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