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Do A.I. run always on Default Balanced setup ?

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No it doesn’t really work that way. The AI speed are programmed by other ways. It’s more of a myth because pre 2019 using 6/6 downforce or equivalent amount of drag made you more or less as fast as your team mate. 

But in 2019 you will need as low as 3/3 downforce at Spa , and 4/4-6/6 depending on the track. 

I have notes that covers all the tracks so I know what amount of downforce is needed. Never above 6/6 , even at Monaco. 

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On 8/29/2019 at 3:22 PM, KrazyLurt said:


I have notes that covers all the tracks so I know what amount of downforce is needed. Never above 6/6 , even at Monaco. 

What is the rest of your setup there? Almost every TT top time I've seen is some combination of 10/11 with maybe one a 7 11 or so.  

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58 minutes ago, DaleRossi said:

What is the rest of your setup there? Almost every TT top time I've seen is some combination of 10/11 with maybe one a 7 11 or so.  

This year I haven’t done any TT or online racing, just GP’s and Championship Mode. So I use wings to be a fast as the AI competition in top line speed. TT in Monaco is certainly more df than 6/6. 
 

My two last seasons of Championship Mode I have used 1/1 springs and 10/10 Anti roll bars. 
A high ride height like >9/9 just to not hear the scraping all the time in races. 
58 bb , 60 when the tyres start to go. 
Otherwise, same settings as balanced. 
I used this on all tracks wet or dry at 102-107 difficulty. 
And beat or narrowly beaten by a fast team mate like Verstappen or Hamilton.  Those are the two fastest drivers in the game this year. Verstappen is ~.100 faster than Hamilton in the game. 

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35 minutes ago, KrazyLurt said:

This year I haven’t done any TT or online racing, just GP’s and Championship Mode. So I use wings to be a fast as the AI competition in top line speed. TT in Monaco is certainly more df than 6/6. 
 

My two last seasons of Championship Mode I have used 1/1 springs and 10/10 Anti roll bars. 
A high ride height like >9/9 just to not hear the scraping all the time in races. 
58 bb , 60 when the tyres start to go. 
Otherwise, same settings as balanced. 
I used this on all tracks wet or dry at 102-107 difficulty. 
And beat or narrowly beaten by a fast team mate like Verstappen or Hamilton.  Those are the two fastest drivers in the game this year. Verstappen is ~.100 faster than Hamilton in the game. 

Interesting, I'll check that out for sure. 

I wonder if they boosted Verstappen, as well they should have. But I dont recall him being as fast early on.

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21 minutes ago, DaleRossi said:

Interesting, I'll check that out for sure. 

I wonder if they boosted Verstappen, as well they should have. But I dont recall him being as fast early on.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/waezbqzi5dx96bd/Foto 2019-08-13 23 44 31.jpg?dl=0

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OT but here is the results from Austria when all drivers had the same car. I did this test by replacing all cars to the same car. It will get a rough average of how all drivers are rated in 2019

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8 hours ago, KrazyLurt said:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/waezbqzi5dx96bd/Foto 2019-08-13 23 44 31.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bjd0dcguq2u2avx/Foto 2019-08-13 23 44 41.jpg?dl=0

OT but here is the results from Austria when all drivers had the same car. I did this test by replacing all cars to the same car. It will get a rough average of how all drivers are rated in 2019

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How do you make the AI all have the same car?  Can't believe Gasly is that high. Seems like I see Leclerc towards the front a lot more than Gasly. And Lando is rarely in the top 15.  However, I really havent paid attention that closely.

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1 hour ago, DaleRossi said:

How do you make the AI all have the same car?  Can't believe Gasly is that high. Seems like I see Leclerc towards the front a lot more than Gasly. And Lando is rarely in the top 15.  However, I really havent paid attention that closely.

I use a tool called ego erp archiver to open the team files called wep. For this test I just used the Mercedes data for all team. 
This isn’t cut in stone “proof” just a interesting thing. 
I think the game randomizes the speed from race to race. Maybe each driver also have a range of speed and a different probability driver to driver at what range they are at from event to event. 
Nevertheless, Gasly is still too highly rated in the game to pick out one, they didn’t to a great job in the performance update , both the car and driver performance was a bit of a half arsed job IMO. 
 

That’s why I use my own mods to better the cars in terms of engine, drag, fuel and ERS using EGO erp archiver. It’s great but takes time manually altering the values and testing. 

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6 hours ago, KrazyLurt said:

I use a tool called ego erp archiver to open the team files called wep. For this test I just used the Mercedes data for all team. 
This isn’t cut in stone “proof” just a interesting thing. 
I think the game randomizes the speed from race to race. Maybe each driver also have a range of speed and a different probability driver to driver at what range they are at from event to event. 
Nevertheless, Gasly is still too highly rated in the game to pick out one, they didn’t to a great job in the performance update , both the car and driver performance was a bit of a half arsed job IMO. 
 

That’s why I use my own mods to better the cars in terms of engine, drag, fuel and ERS using EGO erp archiver. It’s great but takes time manually altering the values and testing. 

Can you share us with your mod? Codies have messed up the balance of most teams, that's for sure.) I guess lack of Ferrari engine power in game can be easily fixed, so that it had an advantage of 5-7 kph over Merc in straight line speed. Also Honda engine is 2018 spec and Williams are not that far back as they should be.

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2 hours ago, KulishS said:

Can you share us with your mod? Codies have messed up the balance of most teams, that's for sure.) I guess lack of Ferrari engine power in game can be easily fixed, so that it had an advantage of 5-7 kph over Merc in straight line speed. Also Honda engine is 2018 spec and Williams are not that far back as they should be.

I haven't done any realistic mod, but made Ferrari and RedBull neck and neck with Mercedes, a lot more fun. So I'm not sure that is what you are looking for.

EGO ERP Archiver is made by Ryder25 and can be downloaded here if you want to learn how to modify data for your own personal wishes. Note that you cant race online or TT with altered values.

Link:

EGO ERP Archiver 

Race department is good for mods, I posted mine their but they are outdated since the performance patch went live.

Link:

RaceDepartment

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Too bad those of us on Consoles can't download roster mods of some sort. Something so basic was available a decade ago on Xbox 360.

So much about this game is great and so much of it is insanely poor. They have a Senna and Prost license. So they use them for a few one-off stand alone partial-races only. Yet, we have our entire careers filled with **** about fictional racers Devin and Weber.  That is in the running for the absolute worst decision in the history of gaming.lol

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On 8/29/2019 at 8:45 PM, TheSerbian said:

Someone knows that AI use for every track Balanced Setup ?!

Yes, AI use balanced set up on every track whether it's wet or dry. 

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14 minutes ago, milook said:

Yes, AI use balanced set up on every track whether it's wet or dry. 

No they don’t , show me ONE piece of evidence. 🤮

And your thumbs down random posts by me only  shows lack of maturity. 🤣

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2 hours ago, KrazyLurt said:

No they don’t , show me ONE piece of evidence. 🤮

And your thumbs down random posts by me only  shows lack of maturity. 🤣

It's common knowledge. 

As for your other "point", grow up. 

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16 minutes ago, milook said:

It's common knowledge. 

As for your other "point", grow up. 

No it’s not , and your lack of any information regarding that shows your ignorance. 
Keep practicing in the wet , maybe you will be able to have some speed against AI someday 😚

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17 hours ago, KrazyLurt said:

I haven't done any realistic mod, but made Ferrari and RedBull neck and neck with Mercedes, a lot more fun. So I'm not sure that is what you are looking for.

EGO ERP Archiver is made by Ryder25 and can be downloaded here if you want to learn how to modify data for your own personal wishes. Note that you cant race online or TT with altered values.

Link:

EGO ERP Archiver 

Race department is good for mods, I posted mine their but they are outdated since the performance patch went live.

Link:

RaceDepartment

Can I modify the values so that the Ferrari engine is most powerful of all? If yes, what do I need to change? 

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6 hours ago, KulishS said:

Can I modify the values so that the Ferrari engine is most powerful of all? If yes, what do I need to change? 

Yes you can. Manually modify the values is time consuming and also by testing if the values are good enough.

If I would have liked Ferrari to have the most powerful engine like you suggest I would have swapped the values with the Mercedes engine, i.e. Ferrari having Mercedes values and vice versa.

Note that you cant do TT and/or online races with a modified game.

Also swapping this around makes maybe the relative gap between Mercedes and Ferrari not anything that you like.

 

Another method is to input the values of the games engine upgrade and hope that it is just right.

 

A quick how to edit values is:

1) Open the relevant team erp file in EGO Erp Archiver. Example: "D:\Spel\Steam\steamapps\common\F1 2019\2019_asset_groups\f1_2019_vehicle_package\teams\ferrari\wep\ferrari.assetgroup"

2) export the xml files using EGO Erp Archiver

3) open the exported file in Notepad or Notepad++

4) The engine values are in withing the lines 5-142, and the power is line 6-23. Edit in whatever method you choose. Save.

5) import the xml files using EGO Erp Archiver and save.

 

Note: the engine upgrade values are noted in line 1273-1291 if you want to add them with lines 6-23.

 

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AI dont use BALANCED/DEFAULT setup for every track in F1 2019, it is 100% !!! I have tested it in FRANCE (Paul Ricard) ... I have used BALANCED setup with Ferrari (Leclerc) and my teammate Sebastian Vettel was more faster in the straight and also Red Bull cars are almost faster then my Ferrari. So i think A.I. use something similar like INCREASED SPEED setup in France Paul Ricard.

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On 9/1/2019 at 6:17 PM, KrazyLurt said:

No they don’t , show me ONE piece of evidence. 🤮

And your thumbs down random posts by me only  shows lack of maturity. 🤣

Enable telemetry in the settings and run any sort of telemetry tool (including your own). The AI setup is one of the things it reports on every tick. It's always the default setup no matter what.

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4 hours ago, Coffer said:

Enable telemetry in the settings and run any sort of telemetry tool (including your own). The AI setup is one of the things it reports on every tick. It's always the default setup no matter what.

While telemetry certainly is a great tool, I'm pretty sure that the AI car setups reported are not representative to the actual game, i.e. they don't "use" the setup reported, the speed of the ai are done by different standard.

But we won’t know for sure until CM makes an actual reply

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4 hours ago, Coffer said:

Enable telemetry in the settings and run any sort of telemetry tool (including your own). The AI setup is one of the things it reports on every tick. It's always the default setup no matter what.

And locking at the raw data telemetry at the start of a 25% gp at Spa , the ai of Hamilton have 29 kg of car setup fuel, but when the gp starts he has 30,5 kg. So I bet the are different standards for the game to calculate the ai speed. 
 

 

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But I did notice a big difference in this version of f1 2019 vs my old testing regarding top speed. 
At Spa my testing today with Mercedes, Ferrari and Torro Rosso with 6/6 df I matched my team mate top speed in qualifying. The same with 7/5 df which means roughly the same drag as 6/6. 

So things have changed in one of the patches, anyone know which one? Maybe the latest because I’ve been pretty active at playing. 

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