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5 hours ago, Maxiemwagenaar said:

Can you give an example of times you are doubting? The winning runs of Joona and Mickey are publicly available on youtube, unsure about the others. I linked my (unlisted on yt) 7:21 during the NZ qualifier (rank 12 on Steam?), couldn't find a better run quickly. I told myself I would not take the minor cut past the rock if I had a clean run but I did not, crashed into a gate, so I took it. Saves less than a second anyway. I ran against the best TT times a few times and they don't cheat honestly, every corner is just taken really well and if you lose 0.1 every corner (which is easy to do) that will really add up. I was able to match their pace for a few sectors but after a while you just make a mistake, lose the rhythm and with that the pace. My run might not really look different than a 7:30 for example, but the corners are just taken slightly more quickly. The same case can be made for the difference between the winning 7:13 and my 7:21. Unless I missed cuts somewhere but who knows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe-XNsN6YqU

EDIT://Some footage from the guy who posted the winning run (this might actually be from the qualifier itself). You can see different gear selection at a lot of sections and different cornering styles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip1jtksm2RY

same goes for games with circuit racing. When watching fast drivers on twitch or youtube they can do pretty much the exact same lines but they do it faster and each turn adds up in the end. Carrying more speed out of a turn makes a huge difference.

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I did a bit more testing, this time at Silverstone and all in all there's a whole lot of spots where you can cut and gain multiple seconds over 5 or 6 laps across almost all RX tracks. Canada and maybe Montalegre are probably the only tracks where you can't cut due to their layout. Silverstone was part of a previous round in the WS, so people might have already taken advantage but still, this is awful. 

I'm not going to post another of those horrible videos. Here's a Xbox DVR link instead. 

https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/rich1e-i/video/80965116

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10 hours ago, richie said:

I did a bit more testing, this time at Silverstone and all in all there's a whole lot of spots where you can cut and gain multiple seconds over 5 or 6 laps across almost all RX tracks. Canada and maybe Montalegre are probably the only tracks where you can't cut due to their layout. Silverstone was part of a previous round in the WS, so people might have already taken advantage but still, this is awful. 

I'm not going to post another of those horrible videos. Here's a Xbox DVR link instead. 

https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/rich1e-i/video/80965116

Oh man, they're horrendous cuts, that's definitely a bug report needed.

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15 hours ago, richie said:

I did a bit more testing, this time at Silverstone and all in all there's a whole lot of spots where you can cut and gain multiple seconds over 5 or 6 laps across almost all RX tracks. Canada and maybe Montalegre are probably the only tracks where you can't cut due to their layout. Silverstone was part of a previous round in the WS, so people might have already taken advantage but still, this is awful. 

I'm not going to post another of those horrible videos. Here's a Xbox DVR link instead. 

https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/rich1e-i/video/80965116

*****. These things really needs to be sorted. You shouldn't be able to go outside of obstacles that are specifically there to prevent cutting and still having your lap time count. @PJTierney

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Already added the video to the bug tracker, thanks for heads up.

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