Johnnnn 184 Posted September 25, 2019 I just did historic championship with Audi and it was like a nightmare. The car has normally under-steer and sometimes over-steer and I was never sure what will come. Is it me or the car is different? I felt like I am not the real driver but I tried to stay on a road. It wasn't good experience 😄 What I found it's good to be very subtle with a gas but still the car doesn't react to it too much. I can image big turbo lag but still it was strange. Do you have any tips? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caerphoto 323 Posted September 25, 2019 That's pretty much how the car is on the default setup. Might be worth adjusting setup to see if it helps – GTR Technical is well-regarded here: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mwoodski 130 Posted September 25, 2019 It's a dump truck. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malling 278 Posted September 25, 2019 The Audi may apparently be the most powerful car in the game, but it also has the most sluggish handling in the class - it's heavy and front-engined which puts it at a disadvantage compared to the opposition 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mesa 624 Posted September 25, 2019 This car wasn't a success - wheelbase is too short, heavy in front, light at back - this made this monster unpredictable 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbtstt 2,387 Posted September 25, 2019 Just now, mesa said: This car wasn't a success - wheelbase is too short, heavy in front, light at back - this made this monster unpredictable The horrid truth about the quattro! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyaatalie 0 Posted September 25, 2019 Slowing down quite a bit for every corner and bringing the rear-end out slightly is what i did to make it under-steer less. however, I stopped playing it as my preference lies with front engine RWD cars like the BMW E30 and Fiat 131. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnnnn 184 Posted September 25, 2019 Thanks for the tips. I tried some time trials today and stock is not drivable for me so currently I play with tuning. It looks more promising but after all you are right that the car is probably not the best 😄 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnnnn 184 Posted September 25, 2019 With a tuning it's better but far from perfect. After session I tried stock tuning again and I was of track in every corner so tuning helps for sure. Really tricky car. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SquirrelEsquire 37 Posted September 26, 2019 Evil stock tuning. If you've started out with FWD & RWD cars, don't be surprised if your driving goes to **** when moving on to AWD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evo8uk 128 Posted September 26, 2019 It’s not helped by the fact it seems to have the wrong soft lock in this game!! In dirt rally and dirt 4 this car has 720 degrees of rotation yet for some reason on dirt rally 2.0 it has 900 which is wrong according to online stats regarding this car! The same problem applies to the escort and Sierra cosworth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mwoodski 130 Posted September 26, 2019 4 hours ago, Evo8uk said: It’s not helped by the fact it seems to have the wrong soft lock in this game!! In dirt rally and dirt 4 this car has 720 degrees of rotation yet for some reason on dirt rally 2.0 it has 900 which is wrong according to online stats regarding this car! The same problem applies to the escort and Sierra cosworth Folks probably would have ****** and moaned if they gave every car their actual steering lock instead of 900 degrees across the board, so I understand that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HoksuHoo 563 Posted September 26, 2019 In Assetto Corsa, which tend to be pretty accurate in such things, it's 900 degrees. You sure these online stats are right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnnnn 184 Posted September 27, 2019 Today I tried further tuning and it's even better. Nothing special but against stock tuning it's very different. Currently I wonder what is stock tuning good for. Maybe some tarmac but it's not drivable on gravel at all. Does game have some in-game telemetry? Because without it it's not tuning but rather guessing 😄 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnnnn 184 Posted September 27, 2019 On 9/26/2019 at 12:28 PM, SquirrelEsquire said: Evil stock tuning. If you've started out with FWD & RWD cars, don't be surprised if your driving goes to **** when moving on to AWD. Looks like it. I can drive everything good enough for a beginner but I couldn't drive Audi at all so I need to find the reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgeesi0 305 Posted September 27, 2019 the audi would probably beat most times on the leaderboards and world records . the problem is its hard to extract that ultimate performance from it. some people can be very quick in it. the weighty bargy feeling though often brings most people to their demise. it is a great sounding car as well. if you can master this car not many would touch you in events. many cant so thats why its not normally driven that much. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SquirrelEsquire 37 Posted September 28, 2019 12 hours ago, Johnnnn said: Looks like it. I can drive everything good enough for a beginner but I couldn't drive Audi at all so I need to find the reason. I've found the major culprit with 4WD/AWD tends to be related to Centre dif settings. In this case you've got both Viscous dif and Torque bias to contend with, so it's very possible to end up with unpredictable understeer and oversteer simultaneously. The going advice is to 'tune to your strengths' to make up for lost time, but not every stage has a linear profile. You effectively make the easy sections easier, and the hard sections harder with that approach to tuning. Cars like this magnify the effect of such a tuning bias, and the result tends to be 'Terminal Damage'. I call it 'The Monte Carlo' effect 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackiusBirdius 1 Posted March 11 On 9/27/2019 at 3:38 PM, Johnnnn said: Today I tried further tuning and it's even better. Nothing special but against stock tuning it's very different. Currently I wonder what is stock tuning good for. Maybe some tarmac but it's not drivable on gravel at all. Does game have some in-game telemetry? Because without it it's not tuning but rather guessing 😄 Mate, would you mind sharing your tuning set up? This car is a pain in the arse lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RookieOne 61 Posted March 11 Audi Quattro : tonly car that is worse to drive than that is the Lancia Delta S4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UnderclassGDfan 479 Posted March 11 2 hours ago, RookieOne said: Audi Quattro : tonly car that is worse to drive than that is the Lancia Delta S4 Err...what? The Delta S4 is the best car to drive in Group B 4WD. Well, it always depends on tune. @BlackiusBirdius https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txv7_l1ZYmo The update for the remaining 4 locations will come in april (look in the community section of the channel for more info). Not my channel! Just using his tunes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RookieOne 61 Posted March 11 The thing is that the Delta S4 is more brutal than the Quattro. Not juste because of the tune, but of how the cart react compared to it (while the quattro is hard to drive, I find it to be more stable than the Delta) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UnderclassGDfan 479 Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, RookieOne said: The thing is that the Delta S4 is more brutal than the Quattro. Not juste because of the tune, but of how the cart react compared to it (while the quattro is hard to drive, I find it to be more stable than the Delta) The quattro can have much understeer and I'm usually bad with this. But I love the car. The sound gets me everytime I drive it. The Delta can be very unstable, but I can deal with that better and it doesn't have that huge turbo lag the 205 T16 has, it always gets me, grrr... 😅 Can't much comment on the RS200, because I didn't drive that much with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackiusBirdius 1 Posted March 11 Cheers for the link mate 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnnnn 184 Posted March 12 On 3/11/2020 at 9:26 AM, BlackiusBirdius said: Mate, would you mind sharing your tuning set up? This car is a pain in the arse lol Sure, it's not a problem. The game doesn't have any telemetry tool which is a shame but it's not possible to tune cars effectively. Many people here know the car better but my problem was probably with ride height. It's too low, like tarmac setup. You should tune springs and dumpers with it but I think I didn't. Then I have trouble to steer with gas so I set max rear diff and still it wasn't enough. I couldn't tune more because without telemetry it's guessing or you need to test it. I don't have time to test too much. I just needed the trophy and it was enough. Some gear tuning could help for a concrete track too. Nothing special and I got it. Overall, probably no tuning helps enough. Just don't do full gas too often 😄 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbtstt 2,387 Posted March 12 19 hours ago, UnderclassGDfan said: Can't much comment on the RS200, because I didn't drive that much with it. I personally think the RS200 is the best handling Group B car. The 205 handles well, but I am forever getting caught out by the turbo lag: when the power comes in it can be a handful! The Delta S4 is, for me, the fastest car in class: I find tidy driving gives me my best stage times in it: if I try get too flamboyant I always end up in a tree! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites