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Graphics overall are acceptable,  it's not that big problem  the "killer"  of  the game can be the lack of mp features (custom lobbies bla bla...) 

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Ahahaha the base PS4 screenshots look so bad 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

And 4K looks even worse 🤦‍♂️

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I have tried to capture true 4K by hosting and linking. There will still be compression but this is nearly what I see on my screen. Some are taken with HUD off in real time gameplay where I stopped the car and rotated the free cam or while moving. Others are from still replay but to me I can not notice the difference if they do enhance on replays (maybe some higher LOD & DOF added but otherwise I think they look clearer in game).

 

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I have put the rest i took in to the photos and videos thread I set up if you wanted to see the others:-👍

https://forums.codemasters.com/topic/43236-post-your-videos-photos-replays/

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I tried to capture a good mix of cars and tracks 📸👍

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So having downloaded the Direct feeds from Gamersyde and stuck them through my TV 

https://www.gamersyde.com/news_our_4k_videos_of_grid-21249_en.html

"Japan" "Barca" and "In The Rain" in motion the game looks fantastic and way better than still shots from Youtube. I have to agree with Eurogamer on the graphics rather than Jasper n Co. What gamersyde doesnt do is stop at trees and then zoom in x100 so maybe thats a bit unfair on Jasper as he has shown when you do that it does not look very good. 

However here's some screens from Direct Feed

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Some difference compared to the screens that were getting posted on here before today. It's actually a graphics thread now with just about exactly what you see in game. 

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9 hours ago, torque99uk said:

I turned off TAA completely and it has actually made it look better for me.

Those are good shots, but you can cherry pick good shots even from the worst looking games like rFactor. Specially from Replays (vast majority of yours), with all the DoF, amped Motion Blur and selective angles.

If you turn off TAA then aliasing is visible, even at 4K. This forum is doing downsampling of your images. These are non scaled crops:
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and you are sporting a $1000+ 2080ti...  I assume on a $2000+ PC, not even counting display...  how many people are playing the game with that? 1%🤷‍♂️

GT Sport replays look like this on a $300 base PS4:
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3 minutes ago, jesped said:

GT Sport replays look like

OMG those gifs are almost fotorealistic! This is how GRID should be like!

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Sure, go to Gamersyde's link posted by Flea3D and check the LOD swapping and shadows being drawed 3 meters in front of your car. Again, on a $1000+ GPU.

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3 minutes ago, lastbreath said:

OMG those gifs are almost fotorealistic! This is how GRID should be like!

$300 base PS4...    imagine that on a $1000+ GPU and a $2000+ PC...  🤯

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42 minutes ago, FLAW3D said:

exactly what you see in game. 

This is exactly what you see in game, compared to 5 years old GRID Autosport. 4K uncompressed captures on both.
Exact same spots. No zooms, no Replays:

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I don't know who is responsible for this catastrophe, game designers, management team or higher stuff but those people should be prohibited to make games.

I'm sure soon there will be a wave of people firing and some of them will tell the truth. Because this is undoubtely uncomplete game.

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1 hour ago, jesped said:

Those are good shots, but you can cherry pick good shots even from the worst looking games like rFactor. Specially from Replays (vast majority of yours), with all the DoF, amped Motion Blur and selective angles.

If you turn off TAA then aliasing is visible, even at 4K. This forum is doing downsampling of your images. These are non scaled crops:


and you are sporting a $1000+ 2080ti...  I assume on a $2000+ PC, not even counting display...  how many people are playing the game with that? 1%🤷‍♂️

GT Sport replays look like this on a $300 base PS4:
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GTS doesnt look anything like that in game though does it plenty of jaggies when in gameplay. Also the trees i didnt think you would be into either? 

 

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18 minutes ago, lastbreath said:

I don't know who is responsible for this catastrophe, game designers, management team or higher stuff but those people should be prohibited to make games.

I'm sure soon there will be a wave of people firing and some of them will tell the truth. Because this is undoubtely uncomplete game.

Codemasters staff should be prohibited from making games? You guys are crazy! If you dont like Codies games you do realise other games from other devs are available? 

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55 minutes ago, FLAW3D said:

GTS doesnt look anything like that in game though does it plenty of jaggies when in gameplay. Also the trees i didnt think you would be into either? 

...at 60fps (with drops), meanwhile, GRID 2019 looks like this at 30fps (with drops) and 15fps (or less) reflections:

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GT Sport looks a whole generation superior to GRID, on $300 and $400 hardware, not a $1000+ GPU on a $2000+ machine:

 

Talking about specific features:

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Not only an amazing sun and sky with perfectly adjusted dynamic exposure, it features realistic shadows that get softer with distance too. Lighting is balanced, the sky is not burnt out and there is indirect lighting in shadowed areas (car shadow is not pitch black like in GRID).
 

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1 hour ago, FLAW3D said:

GTS doesnt look anything like that in game though does it plenty of jaggies when in gameplay. Also the trees i didnt think you would be into either? 

Your images are manipulated, reduced to 256 color palette. Good try:

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But even so, let's compare GT Sport trees from a manipulated image with uncompressed 4K sources from GRID 2019:

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Disappointed in you son being a tree conseur in games and being happy with GTS trees. 

Manuilapeted?? hahaha you are truly mental. The screens were lifted from Eurogamer! 

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5 minutes ago, FLAW3D said:

No mention of the 2d trees in GTS? Disappointed in you son being a tree conseur in games.  

Already mentioned, like a month ago in the previous graphics thread. They are only part 2D, and what is most important...   they look good:

  1. They don't have a horrible transparency pattern
  2. They don't swap LOD in your face
  3. They don't look cartoonish
  4. They don't look aliased
  5. They react properly to light, with speculars and shadows
     

...and run at double the framerate than GRID.

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5 minutes ago, jesped said:

Already mentioned, like a month ago in the previous graphics thread. They are only part 2D, and what is most important...   they look good:

  1. They don't have a horrible transparency pattern
  2. They don't swap LOD in your face
  3. They don't look cartoonish
  4. They don't look aliased
  5. They react properly to light, with speculars and shadows
     

...and run at double the framerate than GRID.

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I'd say these trees on the left handside are far worse than any trees in GRID that i have seen thus far no?

 

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37 minutes ago, FLAW3D said:

I'd say these trees on the left handside are far worse than any trees in GRID that i have seen thus far no?

Sure...   😂 
Uncompressed PC Ultra 4K sources...  🤦‍♂️

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21 minutes ago, FLAW3D said:

Manuilapeted?? hahaha you are truly mental. The screens were lifted from Eurogamer! 

Honestly your tree obsessing is embarrassing. 

Here, in case you have vaseline in your 👀

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These are 256 color images. GT Sport doesn't look anything like that.

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