lastbreath Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 As far as I heard, CMs added high option to LOD! So can someone check how it works? Remember that infamous shadow flick on the first turn in Chicago? If someone doesn't know what I'm talking about: Is the situation better now? Check this, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Natan Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Looked the same to me when I tried the "season 2" patch. Shadows still fade in 2-3m in front of the car. 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minetti Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 anyone know, are the F1 / DIRT 2 / GRID on the same graphics engine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Natan Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 2 hours ago, minetti said: anyone know, are the F1 / DIRT 2 / GRID on the same graphics engine? Dirt 2 and Grid are ancient, but historically, it's the same engine. Modern F1 (2015+) titles use the same engine as Grid 2019, as are Dirt 4 and Rally 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastbreath Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Then why the hell F1 has modern graphics and GRID looks like ****? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minetti Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 that's why i'm not sure if it's the same engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastbreath Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Watched some F1 videos. Trees on Red Bull Ring are nice, trees on Monza track - the same flickering nonsence... Looks like CMs can't in visuals anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minetti Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 3 hours ago, lastbreath said: Then why the hell F1 has modern graphics and GRID looks like ****? different team / studio i think about the engine i'm not sure but it could be the same looks like the F1 project is way better managed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minetti Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 love this fantasy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Natan Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 4 hours ago, lastbreath said: Then why the hell F1 has modern graphics and GRID looks like ****? 😂 That's what we've been trying to decipher in this and other similar threads here over the last few months. Most likely, Codemasters sees this as a quick cash grab, so they didn't invest in a proper "team". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator UP100 Posted February 14, 2020 Moderator Share Posted February 14, 2020 GRID 2019 is running on the same engine (EGO 3) as the following games: F1 2015- DiRT 4 DiRT Rally 2.0 Though being on the same engine doesn't mean anything in the games is similiar, as what people usually see as the engine may be only developed for a single game/game series. F1 games are also developed by the Birmingham guys whose games are at times quite different from the Southam games in terms of features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastbreath Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 So, I must admit EGO3 has very ****** visual capabilities. DIRT3 had waves on water, DIRT Rally has plain texture. GRID2 had very distant LoD, GRID2019 has flickering shadows and trees in front of your car... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavinMac Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 I think one thing we are forgetting is Autosport had a HD texture pack as free DLC, with this grid the PC gamers are pretty much stuck with 'Made for Console' as happens for many multi platform releases, still surprising that a lot of the assets in GAS look better while having a higher FPS than 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastbreath Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 HD textures won't help if the game has 3 meters LOD. Everything close to the car is very beautiful, even trees, but horizon....... Simple fog and f,,-up lighting don't help also... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator UP100 Posted February 18, 2020 Moderator Share Posted February 18, 2020 On 2/15/2020 at 11:54 PM, lastbreath said: So, I must admit EGO3 has very ****** visual capabilities. DIRT3 had waves on water, DIRT Rally has plain texture. GRID2 had very distant LoD, GRID2019 has flickering shadows and trees in front of your car... These usually tend to have quite next to nothing to do with the engine in itself. For example you've also said the LOD is fine in F1 2019, no? but yeah. We don't know how the code is managed at all, and which parts of it are the engine, and which are game specific code. If only they would be using Unity... we could just read through the entire code (or at least with normal C# applications/games) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipHawk Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 21 hours ago, GavinMac said: I think one thing we are forgetting is Autosport had a HD texture pack as free DLC, with this grid the PC gamers are pretty much stuck with 'Made for Console' as happens for many multi platform releases, still surprising that a lot of the assets in GAS look better while having a higher FPS than 2019. But the size of the game installation is already at 73GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OugaBooga Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 4 hours ago, RipHawk said: But the size of the game installation is already at 73GB crazy eh ? i still think toca race driver 3 looks good, runs great & is a small installation compared to 73GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesped Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 On 2/18/2020 at 1:55 PM, GavinMac said: I think one thing we are forgetting is Autosport had a HD texture pack as free DLC, with this grid the PC gamers are pretty much stuck with 'Made for Console' as happens for many multi platform releases, still surprising that a lot of the assets in GAS look better while having a higher FPS than 2019. GRID Autosport's "HD texture pack" was for cars ONLY. It didn't change the tracks or anything else. Not that GRID 2019 has better textures for cars anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavinMac Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 seriously??? my ar... would look pixelated if you zoom in enough!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastbreath Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 You know you have to prove it now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Natan Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 So I see Grid 2019 is on 50% sale again. 😂 Instead of just lowering prices and going on sales, just fix your game Codemasters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miatakias_GR Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 7 hours ago, OugaBooga said: crazy eh ? i still think toca race driver 3 looks good, runs great & is a small installation compared to 73GB Lovely game.. Have you recently tried it??I had not tried for over 3 years i remember it has still many players online that time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesped Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 6 hours ago, GavinMac said: seriously??? my ar... would look pixelated if you zoom in enough!!! That's not zoomed, it's captured from a blurred youtube video and that's the part of the car that is in front of your face, in the center of the screen... 🤷♂️ Point is... 5 years older GRID Autosport had BETTER car textures with the HD pack, among many other aspects we've been detailing in this and other threads... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OugaBooga Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Miatakias_GR said: Lovely game.. Have you recently tried it??I had not tried for over 3 years i remember it has still many players online that time.. yea, played it last yr around the time grid 2019 came out, & again a few days ago. i am happy i got it before steam removed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minetti Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastbreath Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Those Sagrada Familia textures are godawful! How? How they could approve such quality in 2019??? Is it also a result of poor LOD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minetti Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 dont think so, static stopped screen from replay to incrase quality. there isnt any blur and this shorter distances no longer improve quality. I also wonder how someone can approved the most important object on the entire route on which everyone hangs an eye, in such a FATALITY of texturing in 2019/2020. building models are also usually very simplified and cubed and this must be lazzyness or indolence because there is no other rational explanation ... meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minetti Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 lighting and reflection system is probably just same advanced as texturing and angular shape of ambient 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavinMac Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 3 hours ago, minetti said: #makesyousad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastbreath Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Wanted to do it by myself but you was faster )) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minetti Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 @ChrisGrovesMCM this must be tweeted on GRID official 😁 big thx @GavinMac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazySerbianGuy Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Let me tell you what the answer will be: They need platform you play on, hardware, graphic settings.... 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minetti Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavinMac Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Done a little photoshoot, sorry to those with OCD.... For absolute fairness, set both games to ultra detail. Running a poor old GTX 970 on a I7-3930K... 2019 was at 40ish fps and 2014 was at 90ish fps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minetti Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 @ChrisGrovesMCM could you relink this comparison above to the official GRID tweeter? or better the Codemasters because it'll be fair to us. this fatality downgrade is so obvious that there should be warning with one of those pics on the front side of the box of Grid are you going to do something about it?????????? would you buy if you knew it was a step back this caliber ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastbreath Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 there is even visible cross on the distant church: Are there any news from modders? It's vital to increase LOD in this gaem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastbreath Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 We need to investigate it. I extracted Sagrade Familia textures from Autosport: Can someone do the same thing with GRID2019? We will compare them and find out the answer what is the problem: poor texture or short LOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavinMac Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 At the end of the day, with a few exceptions these are all things you shouldn't notice or be bothered about because you are meant to be hammering it around the track and looking where you are going and not sight seeing. The issue is there is so much that is lacking in the game compared to previous Grids that you have no choice but to compare and see is it really #LikeNoOther and the answer is yes, it really isn't like any other, its so much worse. Off the top of my head: Fewer game modes, missing are: elimination, endurance, checkpoint, drift, drag, demo Fewer tracks, only 1 sprint (cant be licensing). Lower quality gfx... see above Botched multiplayer: slowly getting fixed but needs more settings like limit grid size and no tuning or lobby text chat. **** car tuning: maybe just me but i prefer gearing, front/rear suspension, downforce, ride height. Totally broken damage system. What 2019 has got going for it imo: Weather/time of day Track limits penalties Car handling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastbreath Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 + crowd. Crowd makers did really good job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastbreath Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 There is another nice thing in Autosport: volumetric fog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minetti Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 50 minutes ago, lastbreath said: We need to investigate it. I extracted Sagrade Familia textures from Autosport: Can someone do the same thing with GRID2019? We will compare them and find out the answer what is the problem: poor texture or short LOD great idea but me PS4, somebody else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavinMac Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 got this but nfi what im doing or even if its the proper one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minetti Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 what a shame ... so the textures are much worse 🤬 where is 👉 @ChrisGrovesMCM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Natan Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 3 hours ago, CrazySerbianGuy said: Let me tell you what the answer will be: They need platform you play on, hardware, graphic settings.... 🙂 How else would "the team" know how to reproduce these totally hard to reproduce results??????? 🙃 What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastbreath Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 hours ago, GavinMac said: got this but nfi what im doing or even if its the proper one.. Looks like you got it right because my texture has the same name - bar_fea_sagrade_familia_a_1_d.tga. It was located in Barcelona folder in a file named route_patchup_ot.pssg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastbreath Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 I have an idea! Try to replace your texture with this one: https://www.aconvert.com/image/jpg-to-dds/ - here you can convert it to dds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavinMac Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 IMO i don't think its a texture issue, probably just settings in the code like LOD that are screwed down so tight that nothing past the track barriers are getting drawn with any high detail/polygon count due to engine performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavinMac Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Got to be impressed with the level of detail in GAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastbreath Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Are those screens all from PC-version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavinMac Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Yes, with everything set to ultra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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