Sweden whiteout

[MaXyMsrpl 281]

I really love Sweden but one of it's weather makes me avoiding this location in challenges. See below.
I would really welcome slight modification to this. Maybe headlights should operate more giving a clue where is the road. In those conditions is almost impossible to anticipate a turn ontime.
Those are yellowish as you can see on video sometimes

 

 

 

 

[somethingthing 282]

I really like Sweden too but when it comes up as the next country in career i usually just retire. The reason is, just as you say, when its snowing its almost impossible to see the stage at all.

[toninus 182]

If Sweden comes back in the licence, I really hope Codies will pit trees with less snow on it. Dark green at least adds some contrast :

 

 

[MaXyMsrpl 281]

2 hours ago, somethingthing said:

The reason is, just as you say, when its snowing its almost impossible to see the stage at all.

IMO it's not about snowing but about fog IMO (or combination of both). Yesterday I did whole Sweden event in Masters championship and fortunately didn't experienced blind conditions, regardless there were stages indicated as heavy snowing.

BTW in DR2 snowing was way better with hypnotic snowflakes "changing direction" depending on how a car turns. It was way better than a rare snowflakes plus thick fog

[ianism 1,316]

buuuut in real life, when it's snowing like that, that's how bad the visibility is.

what's unrealistic is how the heavy snow at night basically doesn't affect your visibility at all.

also, in the game, if you're playing against AI, they will be slower in heavy snow, just like they're slower at night or in the rain.

the tree thing tonius mentioned (ie, the trees lose their snow) happens when it's warm so the snow melts off the trees. even if it's super windy, some snow and ice tends to stick to them. I don't know, for me it's prettier with the snow. having them without the snow just depresses me because it means spring is coming haha

[MaXyMsrpl 281]

Just random guess: does starting position affect colour of the snowy road? I just came to idea that maybe road is darker when starting from further positions while it's more white (more snow covered) when starting first. Just guess but might match how road degradation works and explains why sometimes roads are more visible than other times.

Would like to see devs comment on it.

[ianism 1,316]

2 hours ago, MaXyMsrpl said:

Just random guess: does starting position affect colour of the snowy road? I just came to idea that maybe road is darker when starting from further positions while it's more white (more snow covered) when starting first. Just guess but might match how road degradation works and explains why sometimes roads are more visible than other times.

Would like to see devs comment on it.

that is a very good question.

I don't think so, though. I think it's like a more subtle version of Monte Carlo, where different colours (ice/snow) on the road reflect different surfaces with different grip conditions. in Sweden, I'm pretty sure the darker stuff is meant to be slush. I say this because it always seems to be the same sections that are darker and lighter. I could totally be wrong though.

[danielofifi 451]

I also think it's frustrating. Turning brightness down to 0 helps a bit.

[somethingthing 282]

I was doing some career and sweden came up in  the lineup. First stage i got 3rd and in 2nd it was snowing and i ended up in place 23.

[mwoodski 130]

23 hours ago, ianism said:

buuuut in real life, when it's snowing like that, that's how bad the visibility is.

 

This.  It's an accurate representation of whiteout conditions in the snow.  You need to learn how to adapt to it.

[Snoopy43 100]

7 hours ago, mwoodski said:

This.  It's an accurate representation of whiteout conditions in the snow.  You need to learn how to adapt to it.

Okay. But why it disappears when you change camera to bumper or hood camera? Suddenly the view is much clearer. I really hate Sweden for no visibility from cockpit views. I just retire almost every time 🙈

[mesa 624]

On 11/5/2019 at 3:37 PM, MaXyMsrpl said:

how road degradation works and explains why sometimes roads are more visible than other times.

Would like to see devs comment on it.

+1

[JKangSC 27]

I always think that there is no enough contrast between the road and banks, which makes driving in Sweden in DR2.0 very challenging.

[DaleRossi 619]

Only using cockpit view, I love Sweden. It is one of my favorite locations and wish there was at least one more snow location.

Argentina is the one I skip. Funny since it was my favorite when the game came out, but I can't stand it now.

[mwoodski 130]

21 hours ago, Snoopy43 said:

Okay. But why it disappears when you change camera to bumper or hood camera? Suddenly the view is much clearer. I really hate Sweden for no visibility from cockpit views. I just retire almost every time 🙈

because you're no longer looking through a piece of glass at an angle?

[ianism 1,316]

On 11/6/2019 at 7:34 PM, JKangSC said:

I always think that there is no enough contrast between the road and banks, which makes driving in Sweden in DR2.0 very challenging.

as someone who lives in a place with a fair bit of snow for 4+ months (first one of the season was today), that is realistic, assuming the snow is fresh - ie it has fallen recently and hasn't melted (or melted and refrozen or rained on or whatever)

[Kjell007 112]

I have to fully agree with OP here. As an in-car-cam-only driver, I regret having to go to bumper cam when it snows in daytime in Sweden. The developers should really do something about this issue!🤔

[danielofifi 451]

Just drove a rally in Sweden and honestly I think the AI doesn't slow down enough for bad weather. In R-Gt class on elite I win a stage with 5 second gap in good weather, but when it's snowing I find myself in the middle of a pack after a clean stage.

[koog2003 257]

On 11/5/2019 at 9:45 AM, somethingthing said:

I really like Sweden too but when it comes up as the next country in career i usually just retire. The reason is, just as you say, when its snowing its almost impossible to see the stage at all.

Same problem here. You just see nothing ... why is it like that I dont really get it 

[koog2003 257]

On 11/6/2019 at 9:59 PM, Snoopy43 said:

This.  It's an accurate representation of whiteout conditions in the snow.  You need to learn how to adapt to it.

Yes maybe and it could be kind of fine if the AI it would make a difference of any kind. Dry and clear or heavy rain or heavy snow they always do the same times ... it is VERY frustrating man.

In VR in the night with heavy rain it is like being under a waterfall. You can barely see the track you have to guess the curves and on top of that the AI does the same times totally indifferent to the weather conditions. This really has to be changed.

 

[gk9147 220]

7 minutes ago, koog2003 said:

Yes maybe and it could be kind of fine if the AI it would make a difference of any kind. Dry and clear or heavy rain they always do the same times ... it is VERY frustrating man

 

the rain with VR is more beautiful than TV

[koog2003 257]

1 minute ago, gk9147 said:

the rain with VR is more beautiful than TV

Yes it is more beautiful than on the PS4 but you cant see **** man. It makes it unplayable. Either they adjust the times of the AI in heavy conditions or they put the weather effect less intense. The smarter would be the first option IMHO.

[koog2003 257]

17 minutes ago, gk9147 said:

the rain with VR is more beautiful than TV

It is not about a TV or VR. It is about the video card of a PS4 and a GTX1080ti 🙂 A lot of difference eheh

[KittyFit90 253]

I have relatively bad eyesight (both myopia and nystagmus) and to me Sweden during heavy snow conditions the whole screen is seen by my eyes as virtually all white. I just did 2 stages in those conditions and was 2min 30 off the pace, whilst 2 stages in normal conditions I was 8th and 12th fastest. I also experience a similar vision issue in heavy rain at night, its nothing to do with handling the car in such conditions its purely an eyesight issue due to the graphics/reflections/fog whatever it is.

[ianism 1,316]

11 hours ago, KittyFit90 said:

I have relatively bad eyesight (both myopia and nystagmus) and to me Sweden during heavy snow conditions the whole screen is seen by my eyes as virtually all white. I just did 2 stages in those conditions and was 2min 30 off the pace, whilst 2 stages in normal conditions I was 8th and 12th fastest. I also experience a similar vision issue in heavy rain at night, its nothing to do with handling the car in such conditions its purely an eyesight issue due to the graphics/reflections/fog whatever it is.

so do you think you would be able to drive in this? keep in mind the road is more than twice as wide as the country roads in DR, and there are electric lines and patches of exposed tarmac to help guide you.

if it wasn't realistic, people would be complaining about it being too easy.