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This thread exists so that you guys don't flood the entire DR2 forum with news about non-Codemasters WRC games; keep all talk of those titles in here please 🙂 

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6 hours ago, Martinio32 said:

And again no you can't buy this separately. Clean your eyes better. 

Don't embarrass yourself, if you can't find the download-option in the store.
Not my problem.

https://www.microsoft.com/de-de/p/wrc-9-fia-world-rally-championship/9nj3r4fn60rr?activetab=pivot:overviewtab

Scroll down.
4 DLCs seperately, even the Pre-Order Audi quattro A2.
3,99€ each (wich is an "ok" price tag).
It's cheaper to buy the deluxe edition, but if you want the physical version (like me), it's still possible to get everything.
So don't lie to others, please.

6 hours ago, Martinio32 said:

If you haven't played WRC 9 yet, you'd better not write anything about its technical aspects.

I do what I want, mate.
I play 3D-racing games since the mid-90s, I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about.

Will not buy a game, just to judge if it's good. That would be stupid.
Better to find this out beforehand.

And from what I've seen it's an improvement over previous entries.
Has it better car physics than DR2.0? I really doubt it.

But definitely the better career mode and current gen WRC cars, wich is a huge double plus.
But no Group B wich is a big minus.


I know myself.
In the end I buy it anyway probably.
But I maybe should play WRC 6 & 7 first, because they are here unplayed since years!
And ordered WRC 8 Deluxe just 2 days ago.
SLRE is also here mostly unplayed (bad car physics, but some unique cars in there).
I even think about buying V-Rally 4, the only rally game (besides WRC 9) I don't own yet.

TOO MUCH RALLY GAMES TO PLAY!

Could have been done already with all these games, if Codemasters wouldn't have made such a great rally game, can't stop playing it.
So it's basically @PJTierney's fault!
Yes...that sounds right 😃

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3 hours ago, SaxmanUSMC said:

 

I would not recommend using WRC 8 to judge whether or not to buy 9. Just go straight to 9. To many improvements in the physics and dynamics of the cars to be able to judge this way.

I bought WRC 8 to have in the metal box 🙂 I'll never open it.

I will also never play WRC 6-7-8 again! 

@UnderclassGDfan I have no idea what Martinio32's problem is with his replies... some sort of attitude but I think we get his point!

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Just now, UnderclassGDfan said:

Do you mean WRC 8 or is there somewhere a metalbox/steelbook for WRC 9?

The only physical version I found for WRC 9 is the simple standard edition.
I'm a collector and always buy physical for my collection.

Yes, yes sorry! WRC 8!

I just woke up! Contemplating continuing to play WRC 9 (Digital Deluxe Edition), watch Day 2 of Rally Estonia or make my Father's day gift/food haha

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Just now, MattJelonek said:

Yes, yes sorry! WRC 8!

I just woke up! Contemplating continuing to play WRC 9 (Digital Deluxe Edition), watch Day 2 of Rally Estonia or make my Father's day gift/food haha

I also watch WRC through WRC+, really exciting!
Didn't know before yesterday that there is an app for it on xbox one.
Really cool stuff happening over there.

Estonia is a really beautiful rally, nice landscapes and fast sections through the woods 😍

But since I'm a rally-fan basically since this year (except rally games) and have a subscription since january, I just don't know wich driver I prefer yet, lol
Just a bit sad the Fiesta doesn't seem to be competitive at the moment.

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9 hours ago, MattJelonek said:

Yes, yes sorry! WRC 8!

I just woke up! Contemplating continuing to play WRC 9 (Digital Deluxe Edition), watch Day 2 of Rally Estonia or make my Father's day gift/food haha

Lots of choices...hahah. I am watching the rally myself. So glad there is rally to watch again, and so far Estonia has been pretty good. 👍

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On 9/1/2020 at 7:02 PM, Martinio32 said:

You are totally wrong. Do you have played this game already? I have play from 3 days and there is more better improvements based on WRC 8 version. I suggest for you first play then later write something with sense not gibberish.

I did all three! Watched the Saturday highlights, played WRC 9 a bit... and was on twitch then made the food 🙂

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Wrc 9 is nothing like wrc 8. 
 

wrc 8 was awful. Was very sceptical about wrc 9 but I said I would try it and I have to say it is a massive massive improvement. 
 

I am actually enjoying playing it. Sure it’s not as good as dirt rally 2.0 but it is a very good effort, Took some time to set the wheel up to my liking But once I did I’ve found it challenging to play. 
 

all in all I think it’s worth buying wrc 9, a huge improvement.

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On 9/6/2020 at 1:21 AM, UnderclassGDfan said:

Don't embarrass yourself, if you can't find the download-option in the store.
Not my problem.

https://www.microsoft.com/de-de/p/wrc-9-fia-world-rally-championship/9nj3r4fn60rr?activetab=pivot:overviewtab

Scroll down.
4 DLCs seperately, even the Pre-Order Audi quattro A2.
3,99€ each (wich is an "ok" price tag).
It's cheaper to buy the deluxe edition, but if you want the physical version (like me), it's still possible to get everything.
So don't lie to others, please.

I do what I want, mate.
I play 3D-racing games since the mid-90s, I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about.

Will not buy a game, just to judge if it's good. That would be stupid.
Better to find this out beforehand.

And from what I've seen it's an improvement over previous entries.
Has it better car physics than DR2.0? I really doubt it.

But definitely the better career mode and current gen WRC cars, wich is a huge double plus.
But no Group B wich is a big minus.


I know myself.
In the end I buy it anyway probably.
But I maybe should play WRC 6 & 7 first, because they are here unplayed since years!
And ordered WRC 8 Deluxe just 2 days ago.
SLRE is also here mostly unplayed (bad car physics, but some unique cars in there).
I even think about buying V-Rally 4, the only rally game (besides WRC 9) I don't own yet.

TOO MUCH RALLY GAMES TO PLAY!

Could have been done already with all these games, if Codemasters wouldn't have made such a great rally game, can't stop playing it.
So it's basically @PJTierney's fault!
Yes...that sounds right 😃

So they changed it because at the very beginning I couldn't buy the DLC separately, that's why I bought Deluxe where it was more profitable anyway.

 The physics of cars is somewhere better in the new WRC as in DR2.0 in my opinion and you can feel the difference between the WRC / WRC2 / WRC3 cars and if WRC 9 had better graphics and additional effects, you can already talk about the rally game of the year.

In the new WRC 9 I do not complain about the lack of group B cars because the nature of the game and the series has a completely different message for players.  I do not want to buy the game under a current license to drive old rally cars easy, and even if it is only in the form of an option as an addition or a bonus, and so it is here too.

I recommend playing the more recent versions and assessing what post they made in this series because it is quite big.  Vrally4 is an interesting game but far removed from WRC9 or DR2.0 both of which are miles better.

 

 

 

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Took me a while to get into WRC 8, but once I did I absolutely loved it. I've now got 9 installed but I'm waiting for my new Fanatec handbrake before I launch into it. Can't wait! I see a lot of WRC vs DR type debates, but for me they're perfectly separate. WRC covers the top level FIA aspect, DR games cover the more amateur clubman side of the sport, and for me they both cover their respective bases very well.

I also had no idea how many gamers have driven current-gen WRC and R5 cars! They must have done anyway, to be such an authority on their handling...

 

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Never tried WRC 8 cause WRC 7 was unplayable caused by horrirble stuttering Issuses I was never able to solve. And as I researched I was not alone whith that. So... is there any Progress in WRC 9(PC Version) concerning these Problems? 

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3 minutes ago, hampti said:

Never tried WRC 8 cause WRC 7 was unplayable caused by horrirble stuttering Issuses I was never able to solve. And as I researched I was not alone whith that. So... is there any Progress in WRC 9(PC Version) concerning these Problems? 

Buy the game. You won’t regret it.

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So I bought WRC9, here is my opinion after a few days of playing:

Definitely a big improvement over the previous game, although not at the first glance. The most important change is in gravel handling, it feels much more intuitive and rewarding. The steering lag seems to be gone, the car behaves predictably. Tarmac is as good as in WRC8. I really like the new rallies, especially Japan and New Zealand. Sound and graphics have improved, slightly but still. Replays are nice. The damage model is still very unforgiving on realistic settings, which I like. Carreer mode seems the same as last year, it can be really addictive.

As for negatives, the biggest one is force feedback. It's quite bad at default settings, it took me many hours of tweaking to make my wheel feel like it should. Also, many annoying bugs from WRC8 carried over to the new game. You still get career objectives which are impossible to accomplish, extreme conditions events are still very frustrating if you play with permacrash on, AI needs balancing. And this dreadful hands on wheel animation, why they don't do anything about it is beyond me. Fortunately there is an option to turn the wheel off in cockpit mode.

And the most important question: is it better than Dirt Rally 2.0? Honestly, I don't know. It's dangerously close, but it lacks the polish that DR2.0 has. And as much as I enjoy the challenging stages in WRC9, I prefer 1:1 recreations of roads that DR2 offers. Suspension and weight transfer on gravel still feel slightly better in DR2.0 in my opinion, but going back to DR2's tarmac after playing WRC9 is very painful.

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On 9/12/2020 at 12:11 PM, danielofifi said:

So I bought WRC9, here is my opinion after a few days of playing:

Definitely a big improvement over the previous game, although not at the first glance. The most important change is in gravel handling, it feels much more intuitive and rewarding. The steering lag seems to be gone, the car behaves predictably. Tarmac is as good as in WRC8. I really like the new rallies, especially Japan and New Zealand. Sound and graphics have improved, slightly but still. Replays are nice. The damage model is still very unforgiving on realistic settings, which I like. Carreer mode seems the same as last year, it can be really addictive.

As for negatives, the biggest one is force feedback. It's quite bad at default settings, it took me many hours of tweaking to make my wheel feel like it should. Also, many annoying bugs from WRC8 carried over to the new game. You still get career objectives which are impossible to accomplish, extreme conditions events are still very frustrating if you play with permacrash on, AI needs balancing. And this dreadful hands on wheel animation, why they don't do anything about it is beyond me. Fortunately there is an option to turn the wheel off in cockpit mode.

And the most important question: is it better than Dirt Rally 2.0? Honestly, I don't know. It's dangerously close, but it lacks the polish that DR2.0 has. And as much as I enjoy the challenging stages in WRC9, I prefer 1:1 recreations of roads that DR2 offers. Suspension and weight transfer on gravel still feel slightly better in DR2.0 in my opinion, but going back to DR2's tarmac after playing WRC9 is very painful.

do cars actually understeer on tarmac in wrc9 ? just curious.Do you get the weight feel at speed on tarmac or can you just toss them with no weight like in wrc8 ? 

thanks 

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6 hours ago, Madhun1967 said:

do cars actually understeer on tarmac in wrc9 ? just curious.Do you get the weight feel at speed on tarmac or can you just toss them with no weight like in wrc8 ? 

thanks 

Yes, the understeer is there if you push too much. As for the feeling of weight, DR2.0 does it better, and I played WRC8 a long time ago, so it's difficult for me to say if it has been improved. One thing I noticed is that car's behaviour can be influenced by a setup to a higher degree than in WRC8. Generally, you get the feeling like the car is more in contact with the surface than in WRC8. Overall the tarmac feels good, not at the level of, say, Assetto Corsa, but it's believable. It gives me SLRE vibes. 

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On 9/15/2020 at 4:09 PM, danielofifi said:

Yes, the understeer is there if you push too much. As for the feeling of weight, DR2.0 does it better, and I played WRC8 a long time ago, so it's difficult for me to say if it has been improved. One thing I noticed is that car's behaviour can be influenced by a setup to a higher degree than in WRC8. Generally, you get the feeling like the car is more in contact with the surface than in WRC8. Overall the tarmac feels good, not at the level of, say, Assetto Corsa, but it's believable. It gives me SLRE vibes. 

I personally feel the cars have great weight on tarmac, especially at speed. There is a better feeling now in WRC 9 of the downforce the WRC cars can generate at speed. Brakes can be used to tuck the nose in at speed on bends as well. 

 

Gravel feels better to me than DR2 now, specifically how you balance the car through bends. I still feel that braking on gravel is a tad to good, something DR2 does really well. I prefer the FFB as well. It's much improved over 8. Not to take away from DR2 though. I still play it and enjoy the hell out of it, and I feel that WRC 9 has actually made me a bit better at DR2.

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quick question: other than the 3 new locations in WRC9, are there any old locations that got new stages this year (like Monte Carlo, Wales and Germany got new stages in WRC8)?

also, were any locations from WRC8 taken out and replaced by Japan/NZ/Kenya?

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@danielofifi Are you playing it on the PS4? If so, how's the frame-rate? Does it feel any smoother than last time?

And has the collision detection improved, or do you still bump weirdly from trackside objects or walls? Have those physics improved do you think? I found the cars to react in strange ways sometimes, whereas in DR2.0 its nearly 100% believable.

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Oh boy:

https://medium.com/brit-gamer/wrc-9-versus-dirt-rally-2-0-on-controller-e21686b80b8c

He's absolutely nailed the problems with WRC 8, especially with a controller. It's awful and exactly as he describes.

I haven't tried 9, but this article has a ring of truth about it... That's the end of Kylotonn racing games for me. Next WRC game I purchase will be Codies first official title on the Xbox series X.

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On 9/24/2020 at 12:50 PM, Jake Cushing said:

@danielofifi Are you playing it on the PS4? If so, how's the frame-rate? Does it feel any smoother than last time?

And has the collision detection improved, or do you still bump weirdly from trackside objects or walls? Have those physics improved do you think? I found the cars to react in strange ways sometimes, whereas in DR2.0 its nearly 100% believable.

Yes, I'm on PS4. I'm not an expert on the framerate, I'd say it's somewhere between ACC and DR2.0, definitely driveable and steady so good enough for me. 

The collision detection is... kind of hit and miss. Going off track and over the puddles improved considerably, most crashes look beliveable, but every once in a while you can have something strange happen. However, the mechanical damage model is more realistic than in DR2. You really have to take care of your car.

As for playing with the controller, I can't say anything, because I use a thrustmaster wheel and I'm telling you, after tweaking ffb the feeling is really, really good. The changes of surface, the control you have over the slides... honestly, this game does a better job at simulating modern rally cars than DR2. Driving historic rwd is still much better in DR2.0 though.

About the article you linked, I don't agree with this guy on many points, especially that tarmac is a grippier version of gravel. This is actually the case in DR2. In WRC9, it's a completely different surface.

 

On 9/23/2020 at 6:36 PM, ianism said:

quick question: other than the 3 new locations in WRC9, are there any old locations that got new stages this year (like Monte Carlo, Wales and Germany got new stages in WRC8)?

also, were any locations from WRC8 taken out and replaced by Japan/NZ/Kenya?

I think they're preparing new special stages for Finland and some other country that will be available sometime in the future. As for what's missing, there is no Australia and Spain. Maybe something else too, I can't remember.

 

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I only played WRC8 (also with a controller and also on PC), but most of the criticisms that medium article has of WRC9 I fully agree with. terrible UI, not great control, not great physics (disagree about tarmac though), bad co-driver (I've seen videos of WRC9 and yikes), damage model (just because it's easier to damage the car does not make the damage model more realistic than DR2)...

the fact that there's not many improvements/changes from the last game is unsurprising. as I've pointed out in another post, the WRC games are basically in the sports game category. small changes and updated car and location rosters every year, and that's about it.

I'm interested in these games because I like rallying in different locations from the Dirt series, but since I don't really care too much about the WRC, my interest is going to be limited by the quality of the games, and it's pretty clear that they're still just in the "ok to good" range, even if they're not shovelware anymore.

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Honestly, it's not "ok to good" anymore. It's a great game. Physics are sublime, both gravel and tarmac. Seriously guys, watch some simracers' youtube videos on the topic of WRC9. You'll be much better informed than reading opinions of an expert who plays a sim on a controller. (not trying to insult anyone, just stating my opinion)

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Ok, so I’ve found somewhere I can send a longer form message to the devs. I’ve put the following list together of bugs and suggestions. It will probably go nowhere, but I think this game is SO close to being one of the greats that it’s worth a try. 
If anyone has any other bugs or suggestions please let me know and I’ll add them in. 


Bugs:

  • My game freezes after a stage when using my Fanatec Clubsport v2.5, ironically with the Fanatec wheel endlessly spinning in the corner. This happens around 50% of the time after I complete a stage, and is making Season mode unplayable.
  • The game is very dark, and there seems to be no in-game brightness slider
  • The gear ratios seem extremely short, even for rally cars. There seems to be no scenario where you can use any other gear ratios than the ‘long’ settings. Using the ‘short’ ratios, the car struggles to reach 60mph!
  • Some players are reporting a delay in shift time.


Suggestions:

  • Fix clubs. Allow fully customisable cross-platform events, inviting players and decent search function to find the kinds of events you’re looking for. Also, these events need to be in the form of an actual rally! Sticking with the same car through an event, accumulated times, damage to be fixed at service parks etc are all part of rallying and absolutely have to part of the multiplayer experience. Robust multiplayer and community building is the key to ensuring a game lives beyond the first few months of release. Codemasters were heading in the right direction with their cross-platform Clubs system in Dirt Rally 2.0, but didn’t manage to live up to it’s potential. You’ve got a chance to beat them to it!
  • Add custom events and championships to single player and multiplayer. We should be able to create our own rallies out of the available stages, and our own seasons or championships out of the available rallies. It’s really frustrating not to have this, as it’s usually a given in motorsport games and especially rally games.
  • Give players the option in the above custom events and championships to run the bonus/historic cars, along with the regular ‘season’ mode. The bonus cars are almost pointless in the game’s current state, which is a shame because they’re a lot of fun. These rallies all have amateur classes outside of the WRC-specific classes, so it would enhance the realism rather than taking away. Some cars would be a single-model competition due to lack of cars in a similar class, for example the Escort or the Stratos, but this could be interesting as a level playing field.
  • Use the training area! It’s a blast to just hoon around, but you’re missing a trick not making some fun competitive stages out of this great location. You could have a whole rally of short super-special stages all within the training area. This would be amazing for the Clubs. Also, and I know this might be getting a bit far fetched now, but it would be a great place to have players mark out their own stages and share them etc
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Here is a preliminary list of issues that I have found with WRC 9:

Game: WRC 9 Digital Deluxe Edition (Xbox One X)

Platform: Xbox One X

Input Devices: standard Xbox One controller

Car sounds, co driver pacenotes and other audio sources cut out with multiple cars in multiple locations.

Wipers do not wipe the dust away in certain cars and locations. The wiper animation works but the dust remains and there has been no change in the amount of it.

The water puddle issues have not been resolved on Xbox One and it makes wet stages much too difficult and ruins wet weather gameplay. I have also noticed that sometimes when you start a stage with dynamic weather, it seems like the water puddles carry over to the start of the stage even though there is no rain in the section.

The game freezes and crashes in the middle of stages.

The game sometimes gets stuck when trying to synchronize my times with the leaderboards.

Each day that I launch the game, team members have disappeared since the previous day that I played.

I cannot input my full last name into the game so that it is displayed on the side of the car because they made the character limit 9 characters even though there is at least one WRC driver with a 10 letter last name. Please increase this number.

Cannot connect to clubs on xbox one for the past 2 weeks. I keep getting a server error (12) but I can do dailies and weeklies. When I first installed the game, I was able to display clubs but had not joined any or participated in any events because I was playing the career mode first. Now I can not display any of them and get an error every time. Now when I try and access the clubs section of WRC 9, it returns a server error message every time and refers me to https://wrcthegame.com/wrc9/status which displays an NGINX 500 Internal Server Error. I uninstalled the game and reinstalled it but that did not make any difference. I have a gigabit internet connection and play other multiplayer games with no issues so the problem is not on my end.

In cockpit view, the MoTec rev lights do not function on the Porsche 911 GT3 RS R-GT and the digital dash elements do not fit within the display properly. This is more evident when you remove the steering wheel in cockpit view. You can see that several of the lights are being blocked by the digital dash border and others are outside of it. These elements need to be resized to fit within the perimeter of the digital dash display.

The rev lights on the 1999 Toyota Corolla WRC do not function at all. This is a vertical set of rev lights to the immediate right of the selected gear indicator. This should illuminate from the bottom to the top as the engine revs. It looks like it is stuck in the ON position.

The rev lights on the Citroen Xsara should be above the current selected gear indicator on the dashboard. In the real car there is a small rev light strip built into the top of this gear indicator on the dashboard cowl.

The rev lights on the dashboard cowl of the Toyota Yaris WRC do not function at all. These should illuminate red all at once when the engine reaches the readline as shown in WRC+ videos.

Hyundai i20 Coupe WRC rev lights on the dashboard cowl do not function either.

Ford Fiesta WRC rev light on the dashboard cowl does not illuminate at all. This shift light should illuminate red when the engine has reached its maximum RPM and it is time to upshift as evidenced by any of the WRC+ onboard videos.

Most of the Junior WRC, WRC3, WRC2 and WRC1 cars in WRC 9 do not use their actual digital displays like in the real cars which is a huge disappointment in an officially licensed WRC game. In most WRC cars, the real displays feature the current selected gear in huge font size which takes up nearly a third of the display or more and then have background colors that illuminate differently based on which particular car we are talking about to indicate the revs and when redline (maximum operating RPMs) occurs. Some of the top cars (Yaris, Hyundai and Ford WRC also feature separate shift lights on the dashboard cowl (gauge cluster cowl) so that the driver knows that they are reaching the point that they need to upshift even if they are not looking down at the digital gauge cluster. These things are there in real cars for a reason and they should be in the officially licensed WRC game and work as well. This is even more frustrating when the rev lights and shift lights are modeled in some of the cars but none of them actually function.

The single red shift light on the dashboard of the VW Polo WRC does not work at all. This worked in V-Rally 4 so why doesn't it work in this game.

I think there is a rev light on the Alpine A110 that is stuck in the ON position as well and doesn't function. 

The Proton Iriz R5 has a strange physics bug that causes the car to roll over even at very low speeds. The car is undrivable at Finland on Xbox One X. It does this in multiple locations.

When you turn on the headlights, the dashboard gauges and digital dash do not illuminate as it should in an actual car. They only illuminate during night stages but some stages transition to night so the dash should illuminate any time you turn on the lights. If I am turning on the headlights then I also need the gauges and digital dash to illuminate as it would in a real rally car so that I can see what I need to as far as selected gear and revs. I should not have to rely on a HUD overlay on my screen to be able to see this information.

The Lancia digital dash is too dark and it makes it very difficult to see the RPMs to shift at the proper time.

The lighting on the digital displays and steering wheels at night are much too bright to the point that you almost cannot make out what is on them.

The steering is improved from WRC 8 but is still too twitchy for me on controller. Counter steering often results in a series of over corrections trying to get the car pointed in the right direction. I am guessing with a wheel this is less of an issue because you can feel what the car is doing and correct your inputs accordingly but with controller this can be rather frustrating.

I would really like to see work done on these things and for them to not keep putting off things until the next release. I'm getting tired of issues getting carried over to "the next game". I don't even know of a forum or way to tell them these things other than Facebook or Twitter. I don't think social media is the proper channel to report bugs.

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On 10/5/2020 at 8:32 PM, FlatOverCrest said:

@merseyxshore

Here is a preliminary list of issues that I have found with WRC 9:

Game: WRC 9 Digital Deluxe Edition (Xbox One X)

Platform: Xbox One X

Input Devices: standard Xbox One controller

Car sounds, co driver pacenotes and other audio sources cut out with multiple cars in multiple locations.

Wipers do not wipe the dust away in certain cars and locations. The wiper animation works but the dust remains and there has been no change in the amount of it.

The water puddle issues have not been resolved on Xbox One and it makes wet stages much too difficult and ruins wet weather gameplay. I have also noticed that sometimes when you start a stage with dynamic weather, it seems like the water puddles carry over to the start of the stage even though there is no rain in the section.

The game freezes and crashes in the middle of stages.

The game sometimes gets stuck when trying to synchronize my times with the leaderboards.

Each day that I launch the game, team members have disappeared since the previous day that I played.

I cannot input my full last name into the game so that it is displayed on the side of the car because they made the character limit 9 characters even though there is at least one WRC driver with a 10 letter last name. Please increase this number.

Cannot connect to clubs on xbox one for the past 2 weeks. I keep getting a server error (12) but I can do dailies and weeklies. When I first installed the game, I was able to display clubs but had not joined any or participated in any events because I was playing the career mode first. Now I can not display any of them and get an error every time. Now when I try and access the clubs section of WRC 9, it returns a server error message every time and refers me to https://wrcthegame.com/wrc9/status which displays an NGINX 500 Internal Server Error. I uninstalled the game and reinstalled it but that did not make any difference. I have a gigabit internet connection and play other multiplayer games with no issues so the problem is not on my end.

In cockpit view, the MoTec rev lights do not function on the Porsche 911 GT3 RS R-GT and the digital dash elements do not fit within the display properly. This is more evident when you remove the steering wheel in cockpit view. You can see that several of the lights are being blocked by the digital dash border and others are outside of it. These elements need to be resized to fit within the perimeter of the digital dash display.

The rev lights on the 1999 Toyota Corolla WRC do not function at all. This is a vertical set of rev lights to the immediate right of the selected gear indicator. This should illuminate from the bottom to the top as the engine revs. It looks like it is stuck in the ON position.

The rev lights on the Citroen Xsara should be above the current selected gear indicator on the dashboard. In the real car there is a small rev light strip built into the top of this gear indicator on the dashboard cowl.

The rev lights on the dashboard cowl of the Toyota Yaris WRC do not function at all. These should illuminate red all at once when the engine reaches the readline as shown in WRC+ videos.

Hyundai i20 Coupe WRC rev lights on the dashboard cowl do not function either.

Ford Fiesta WRC rev light on the dashboard cowl does not illuminate at all. This shift light should illuminate red when the engine has reached its maximum RPM and it is time to upshift as evidenced by any of the WRC+ onboard videos.

Most of the Junior WRC, WRC3, WRC2 and WRC1 cars in WRC 9 do not use their actual digital displays like in the real cars which is a huge disappointment in an officially licensed WRC game. In most WRC cars, the real displays feature the current selected gear in huge font size which takes up nearly a third of the display or more and then have background colors that illuminate differently based on which particular car we are talking about to indicate the revs and when redline (maximum operating RPMs) occurs. Some of the top cars (Yaris, Hyundai and Ford WRC also feature separate shift lights on the dashboard cowl (gauge cluster cowl) so that the driver knows that they are reaching the point that they need to upshift even if they are not looking down at the digital gauge cluster. These things are there in real cars for a reason and they should be in the officially licensed WRC game and work as well. This is even more frustrating when the rev lights and shift lights are modeled in some of the cars but none of them actually function.

The single red shift light on the dashboard of the VW Polo WRC does not work at all. This worked in V-Rally 4 so why doesn't it work in this game.

I think there is a rev light on the Alpine A110 that is stuck in the ON position as well and doesn't function. 

The Proton Iriz R5 has a strange physics bug that causes the car to roll over even at very low speeds. The car is undrivable at Finland on Xbox One X. It does this in multiple locations.

When you turn on the headlights, the dashboard gauges and digital dash do not illuminate as it should in an actual car. They only illuminate during night stages but some stages transition to night so the dash should illuminate any time you turn on the lights. If I am turning on the headlights then I also need the gauges and digital dash to illuminate as it would in a real rally car so that I can see what I need to as far as selected gear and revs. I should not have to rely on a HUD overlay on my screen to be able to see this information.

The Lancia digital dash is too dark and it makes it very difficult to see the RPMs to shift at the proper time.

The lighting on the digital displays and steering wheels at night are much too bright to the point that you almost cannot make out what is on them.

The steering is improved from WRC 8 but is still too twitchy for me on controller. Counter steering often results in a series of over corrections trying to get the car pointed in the right direction. I am guessing with a wheel this is less of an issue because you can feel what the car is doing and correct your inputs accordingly but with controller this can be rather frustrating.

I would really like to see work done on these things and for them to not keep putting off things until the next release. I'm getting tired of issues getting carried over to "the next game". I don't even know of a forum or way to tell them these things other than Facebook or Twitter. I don't think social media is the proper channel to report bugs.

I've reported this, along with my own suggestions, direct to KT via their website contact form!

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This is a good title to pick up and play when you just have that need for a quick racing fix.

Compared to DR2 the main advantages are that it loads faster, the campaign is more involved with how you go about managing the team and stages and the handling feels good with the weight transfer and grip.

On the other hand the arbitrary objectives are sometimes problematic. There's not a lot of them and it just feels like something that should have been further developed.

One other problem I have is the widely swinging difficulty. It's good that you can set it before each event, but some events you can easily win, while in others (I'm looking at you, historic races) you really struggle.

All in all and like others have said: DR2 is one, WRC9 is another. They can co-exist very well.

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I needed just 60 FPS to try it and it finally came. Overall it's good.

Physics is not bad, it's like something in between DR2 and Dirt 5. Cars ale light, sliding brakes rather lot but it's fun. Tracks are great, it's so different from DR2. Graphics could be better but I don't care about graphics too much and I like it.

There are some problematic parts like strange physics over some track parts and I don't think RWD classic cars has good handling at all.

Difficulty really varies but it's normal and the team is probably small.

Both games are good and Kylotonn could be really hard racing competition in the future. It's good so many companies are in racing games currently.

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LOL, I am just checking the thread and I agree with controller controls. They are just bad but what's worse? Not as bad as in Project cars 3. It's similar lag but smaller (and opposite). I tested different settings and finally have good enough one for arcade rally. Project cars 3 is completely unplayable. It's strange when somebody try to do BAD controls if you have games like Gran Turismo, Assetto Corsa Competizione or Forza. Is it really that hard to copy those controls?

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Yeah in my wrc 3 fiesta, in replay, the headlights toggle on/off n'sync with my braking.

Also if I hit a movable object during my run; during replay the object is not in the original spot where I hit it, rather it is in the spot that it's settled after I hit it. So in the replay at the moment I hit the object it looks as if I run into absolutely nothing.

There's plenty of other things that I've noticed that you guys already mentioned but I hadn't seen anybody say anything about the replays that I just said.

 

I do very much enjoy WRC 9 on the wheel though more so than dirt but they're just looks so much better Anastasia's on WRC are pretty great but they don't have the fine detailing that the dirt stages have. In WRC though when she gets tight **** is tight and the jumps I feel the cars move a lot more similarly to the rally planes

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1 hour ago, Pieman99 said:

Can you do a fully rally or a full season in a legend car? 
so far all i can see is legend cars can only be used for a single stage?!

Looks like it. You always get the cars and special events are the only one with legend cars. If legend means old.

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45 minutes ago, Johnnnn said:

Looks like it. You always get the cars and special events are the only one with legend cars. If legend means old.

Thanks for confirming... what a waste... would’ve loved to use them for more than just a single stage 😩

won’t bother getting the Corolla DLC now 

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5 minutes ago, Pieman99 said:

Thanks for confirming... what a waste... would’ve loved to use them for more than just a single stage 😩

won’t bother getting the Corolla DLC now 

Old cars has very strange handling. Corolla is great, it's like newer ones. RWD cars is very easy to drive but very strange at the same time. It's not easy to drive RWD car on a dirt but WRC brings it. I love R5 in the game the most and Corolla is good too.

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