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n+1 Request to make a acceptable replay system for Codie guys.

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Firstly I'm sorry it has taken so long for us to respond to this thread.

When we first started to make DR we decided to have many of the interior style replay shots as that is what you see of real rally when you watch videos on YouTube etc. That is why the earlier tracks (Wales, Greece, Monte Carlo) have them so much more.

Since release we saw this feedback and made sure that we had more trackside cameras in Germany and Finland but I realise that they are not full trackside replays.

Unfortunately there is a limitation with our current replay system and as such we may not be able to do this any time soon.

If it is any consolation this is one of the areas that gets called out a lot as a weakness in DiRT Rally and we are very keen to improve it but it is going to be a very big job for us to get right.

I hope that clears up the situation. Sorry if it is not good news but I want to be as transparent as possible about it.

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I wouldn't be a fan of full trackside replays either, but a nice balance between onboard (camera between driver & codriver), trackside and helicopter cams would be very nice.I find those cams attached to the side of the car not very realistic tbh.

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At least you were honest @KickUp and it's appreciated.

Although not the answer i was hoping for, maybe it's something we can look forward to in the future. :)

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KickUp said:

Firstly I'm sorry it has taken so long for us to respond to this thread.

When we first started to make DR we decided to have many of the interior style replay shots as that is what you see of real rally when you watch videos on YouTube etc. That is why the earlier tracks (Wales, Greece, Monte Carlo) have them so much more.

Since release we saw this feedback and made sure that we had more trackside cameras in Germany and Finland but I realise that they are not full trackside replays.

Unfortunately there is a limitation with our current replay system and as such we may not be able to do this any time soon.

If it is any consolation this is one of the areas that gets called out a lot as a weakness in DiRT Rally and we are very keen to improve it but it is going to be a very big job for us to get right.

I hope that clears up the situation. Sorry if it is not good news but I want to be as transparent as possible about it.

well i dont think its the end of the world...lets be honest its just replay and the one now is not bad....

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@KickUp Thank you for your honest answer. It got me thinking if it would be possible without major changes to engine to eliminate / replace some cam angles to already existing but preferred ones.

I also have "two" questions:
-How hard would it be to implent improvement to some of already existing spectator cams to hear car coming much further than it is now. 
-If that would be possible, would it be possible to implement only spectator cam angle choosable by button command that would track car coming and going from couple of locations so you would hear car caming from a far and wait that roaring beast to rush past you and really feel like you were watching a rally as a spectator. If you choose to. 

Of course this "improvements" arent necessary for core gameplay. Just a little sugar to that coffee

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KickUp said:

Firstly I'm sorry it has taken so long for us to respond to this thread.

When we first started to make DR we decided to have many of the interior style replay shots as that is what you see of real rally when you watch videos on YouTube etc. That is why the earlier tracks (Wales, Greece, Monte Carlo) have them so much more.

Since release we saw this feedback and made sure that we had more trackside cameras in Germany and Finland but I realise that they are not full trackside replays.

Unfortunately there is a limitation with our current replay system and as such we may not be able to do this any time soon.

If it is any consolation this is one of the areas that gets called out a lot as a weakness in DiRT Rally and we are very keen to improve it but it is going to be a very big job for us to get right.

I hope that clears up the situation. Sorry if it is not good news but I want to be as transparent as possible about it.

I guess you mention full trackside replays is not possible it means it would be hard to implement that spectator mode i mentioned. Oh well :smiley: 

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Its really bugging me that the replay keeps swapping back to onboard from trackside. I just freaking drove the whole thing looking at it from an on board POV. Why would I want to re watch parts of it from a similar on board point of view. Trackside all the way please. It feel like they watched a lot of WRC where it goes from trackside to onboard because there isnt enough cameras to cover the whole stage obviously. In the game, we shouldnt have that problem. Richard Burns Rally is still better in the replay department.

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Current replays drive me crazy. They spoil all the pleasure of playing. The whole game is going to be great out of the element. Replays are here as salt in the eye. We want to see the car in action, from the outside. Instead, we have still two helmets and cockpit, near left, near right, left handle, handle right, antenna, mask ... The only thing missing view of the inside of the exhaust pipe. Who invented this? Total misunderstanding. View should be as TV, from the outside. It may be switching to a drone or other views but the basis for this TV. There is also no record of course repetition and editing. Casual camera and take pictures that would be something. Each game car has it all as standard. I do not understand why the best rally game is to not have? It's a priority. Do something about it before you go mad, please! I'm tired of looking constantly on the same card driver on the road helmets and covering their rear view mirror. Mercy!

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Replay is still a disaster! Since 0.9 update we're able to select full rotation angle on steering wheel, which i superb. However, in replay the bad rotation angle is still exist, because of CM left the driver on driver's eye position and the dummy's hand can't follow the real rotation angle. So your replay still the worst part of this game.

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I would like to have a trackside and heli cam replay only so no going in car and to the GoPro angles. Lose the pace notes also.

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+1 Again. Add more TV cameras and let the player chose wether he wants cockipt cams or not.


del13r said:
Its really bugging me that the replay keeps swapping back to onboard from trackside. I just freaking drove the whole thing looking at it from an on board POV. Why would I want to re watch parts of it from a similar on board point of view. Trackside all the way please. It feel like they watched a lot of WRC where it goes from trackside to onboard because there isnt enough cameras to cover the whole stage obviously. In the game, we shouldnt have that problem. Richard Burns Rally is still better in the replay department.
Can't agree more. This is really annoying and makes most of the replay useless because you've already played the whole stage with the cockpit view.

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I agree with the idea. It's a bit irritating to be forced to watch the ride from inside on the replay. I see the track from that perspective when I drive, don't I? I find replays very useful to evaluate my driving technique, if I can see the car from outside of course.

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Lets save the helicopter views till later, in the meantime, lets have this, crank those speakers and enjoy that glorious BDA sound !
Codies, this is what we want in a replay !

https://youtu.be/ZAUY_IjYIlo

Cheers. Buster.

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KickUp said:

Firstly I'm sorry it has taken so long for us to respond to this thread.

When we first started to make DR we decided to have many of the interior style replay shots as that is what you see of real rally when you watch videos on YouTube etc. That is why the earlier tracks (Wales, Greece, Monte Carlo) have them so much more.

Since release we saw this feedback and made sure that we had more trackside cameras in Germany and Finland but I realise that they are not full trackside replays.

Unfortunately there is a limitation with our current replay system and as such we may not be able to do this any time soon.

If it is any consolation this is one of the areas that gets called out a lot as a weakness in DiRT Rally and we are very keen to improve it but it is going to be a very big job for us to get right.

I hope that clears up the situation. Sorry if it is not good news but I want to be as transparent as possible about it.

DiRT Rally 2 here we come! 

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Codies, please forget interior shots on replay, we just drove the stage, we really don't want to see it again from inside !

Just plain TV coverage style replay with full track side coverage of the whole stage will do nicely. How hard can that be ?

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gfRally said:
KickUp said:

Firstly I'm sorry it has taken so long for us to respond to this thread.

When we first started to make DR we decided to have many of the interior style replay shots as that is what you see of real rally when you watch videos on YouTube etc. That is why the earlier tracks (Wales, Greece, Monte Carlo) have them so much more.

Since release we saw this feedback and made sure that we had more trackside cameras in Germany and Finland but I realise that they are not full trackside replays.

Unfortunately there is a limitation with our current replay system and as such we may not be able to do this any time soon.

If it is any consolation this is one of the areas that gets called out a lot as a weakness in DiRT Rally and we are very keen to improve it but it is going to be a very big job for us to get right.

I hope that clears up the situation. Sorry if it is not good news but I want to be as transparent as possible about it.

DiRT Rally 2 here we come! 

Mesa. 28 Jan.
A very talent modder JCabri did the trick. He replaced all the on-board camera views with Heli or track side camera views, so we can get a full stage replay without  on-boards now.

Check it out his often updated project at Racedepartment 

Busterbvi. 29 Jan. 
Just checked out those vids in Race Department, the Fourketa Kourva and Kontijarvi replay mods in particular are excellent, just what we want. If  modder J.Cabri can do it, it begs the question, why cant Codies do it !?  Everyone is begging for this, care to respond Skiddy or KickUp ?


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I was gonig to go with meh its all good until I recently pulled a truly epic drive off the Turini (Montecarlo downhill stage that starts all snow and ice) I was owning it in my Escort Cosworth.. and couldn't wait to see the replay surely it would need to be saved and uploaded to youtube.....

NOPE..

5 consecutive hairpins skating on ice like a boss...... and 5 interior shots that showed NONE of the action like in those awesome WRC videos from the early mid 90s...... 

yeah we need TV style replays bad.

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I was gonig to go with meh its all good until I recently pulled a truly epic drive off the Turini (Montecarlo downhill stage that starts all snow and ice) I was owning it in my Escort Cosworth.. and couldn't wait to see the replay surely it would need to be saved and uploaded to youtube.....

NOPE..

5 consecutive hairpins skating on ice like a boss...... and 5 interior shots that showed NONE of the action like in those awesome WRC videos from the early mid 90s...... 

yeah we need TV style replays bad.

Yeah, I wish the 3 first locations would have a second look at the spectator cameras, monte has very few, and Wales could use more and Greece is the best of the 3, it could still be bumped to the number and quality that Finland and Sweden have.   

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Another replay "feature" that bugs the hell out of me is when you get a trackside view, but they add a camera shake effect, like it's someone recording with their cellphone or something.  I HATE THIS!  Give me proper TV cameras from trackside.  I know shakey cameras are the in thing with hipster kids and action movies but please leave it out of the replays.

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Indeed, half of my replay is recorded with stupid on car cameras.

Just tested, camera on the side of car, front tyre, looking back at an empty road its 3/4 of the replays.
These cameras are positioned so stupid, that more than half of the image is just the car itself.

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