Hello Codemasters,here is the World

[TMRFOXHUNTER 27]

good evening Codemasters, who speaks to you is one of your users who has just finished watching the race broadcast live worldwide on all online and visual platforms (sky, youtube, Twitch, facebook, etc) and I really want to congratulate you ... .... ironic of course .... it's been 3 years (more but we do 3) that we tell you that lobbies have problems, that rooms are unmanageable, that we crash from one session to another, that there are thousands of bugs and have you (Codemasters) ever given us weight? The answer is no. Tonight, in addition to Norris who was unable to enter, we witnessed multiple expulsions during qualifying and race (people who could not enter) and how the cars got up and down for an acceleration ... Now that the world has looked at you I don't think that you will fix anything, although I sincerely hope so but I doubt, but at least you have shown the whole world how you plan multiplayer rooms and how you manage things badly. congratulations for the figure and learn from other software houses like Iracing. goodbye.

 

[UP100 1,151]

You say that I'm currently looking at the world!? Where am I then!? (Please don't care about this, it's midnight here :P)

Basically: A bug is found -> Solution is found -> If it's not both minor and at the end of support -> Fixed. Sadly this is not how it works as many issues, especially multiplayer ones, are a huge pain to solve. Though with the addition of EGO Dumper etc. should help with crashes at least.

I'm not Codies, but I'd be great if you could help with the bug reporting by checking out the Technical Assistance forums 🙂 

Edited March 22 by UP100

[AlexTT 489]

I have to agree with OP (sadly). The virtual GP was a joke. After the warmup lap people were already timed 1 lap behind. After lap 1 the number 2 was according to the timing 1.53 minutes behind😱 and others already lapped which is offcourse a joke. Not to talk about how the cars "move" on screen. Jezus cars were teleporting all over the place and stuttering. 
 

the start itself: we see lights already out, 5 seconds later the field starts. 
 

This stream only proves again to CM what we're saying for years. ONLINE IS TRASH! You just need to watch this stream and you can only agree with all the comments and critisism from everyone.

thing is... now that this was worldwide advertised and a lot more people watched (or tried to watch) have now seen what CM has always tried to sweep under the rug and be ignorant about. 
 

I hate to say I told you so... no I don't hate it this time.

WE TOLD YOU SO! And now you crashed and burned in front of a whole lot more people. 
 

this is just really E-Sports unworthy in every way you can think of, and there's no excuses for it. 

Edited March 22 by AlexTT

[steviejay69 1,100]

I think Ant Davidson had the best experience. Check his Twitter.

A split lobby and the other times phoned in by AI. It looks like he had more fun than the rest of them.

I hope there is some kind of mitigation for the shovelfull-show that was served up. Like an actual patch that fixes bugs without creating more. 

I was embarrassed for the hosts having to talk ad-lib for 25 minutes while the not even half the not BAH GP was served. If it was Masterchef the judges would have walked out and the hosts would have hyperventilated from too much talking.

And even I couldn't stop laughing at all the cover-up bulldung they then had to come up with not to call the game out for what it is. 

I'd say you were taking LIBERTYs but truth be told they weren't watching because you paid the cheques in on time. 

Bravo!

[steviejay69 1,100]

34 minutes ago, UP100 said:

You say that I'm currently looking at the world!? Where am I then!? (Please don't care about this, it's midnight here :P)

Basically: A bug is found -> Solution is found -> If it's not both minor and at the end of support -> Fixed. Sadly this is not how it works as many issues, especially multiplayer ones, are a huge pain to solve. Though with the addition of EGO Dumper etc. should help with crashes at least.

I'm not Codies, but I'd be great if you could help with the bug reporting by checking out the Technical Assistance forums 🙂 

I realise you have some kind of role here but trying to defend the indefensible, you should really just shut up. And I missed a word out somewhere.

[AlexTT 489]

1 hour ago, steviejay69 said:

I realise you have some kind of role here but trying to defend the indefensible, you should really just shut up. And I missed a word out somewhere.

Truth hurts... 

(not meant for @UP100 btw)
 

only downside is that CM keeps their heads in their asses i think. Ignorance is bliss they say.

[TMRFOXHUNTER 27]

And when Lando Norris joke about you(CM).....we think is enough

[AlexTT 489]

59 minutes ago, TMRFOXHUNTER said:

And when Lando Norris joke about you(CM).....we think is enough

Not fair! Just wanted to post this one hahaha

Listen when Max says : "what a surprise" 

🤣🤣🤣

[janbonator 300]

5 hours ago, AlexTT said:

the start itself: we see lights already out, 5 seconds later the field starts. 

"AND IT'S LIGHTS OUT AND WE'RE STUCK ON THE GRID"

As so elegantly described by someone on Youtube.

 

Thinking the whole thing over, I think it was actually a great success. Probably for unintended reasons, but still. I had several good laughs then, and especially now when watching the streamers involved. I guess that was the main reason for the whole event after all - entertainment. Sometimes we become so passionate about something, that we no longer remember that, for example, racing boxes of carbon-fibre, or ones and zeroes on a pixel screen around a track, is all about having fun. For those of us who hoped for immersive F1-racing, we either had to disappoint sorely or change the way of looking at things. After the start-light incident and subsequent facepalming, it was Johnny Herbert, who like a true master of ceremony, jumped in from the shadows and flicked a switch. As Johnny was slicing through the first sector, as if he had a fundamental, and quite frankly, justified, difference of opinion with Herman Tilke, his maneuver illuminated me with the realization that it was a show, not a race, as we are used to understand it.

My honest opinion is that the show was pure comedy gold, which still somehow even involved some actual, real racing. From start to finish the action on track was a carbon copy of most random lobbies. The first crash happened 50 meters from the starting grid, one guy cuts a whole sector, ten others fly around the walls and an AI makes his way from P19 to P2 on the medium tires.

I've always hoped for as much realism and immersion to racing games as possible. Today clearly showed that F1 2019 still has a long and windy road ahead of it at that department. Nevertheless, after watching this material, I feel like I really want to go screw around and partake in those bumper car carnival fiestas, found under the title of Random Lobby.

Lando Norris was calling various people on his stream while his AI replacement was carving through the field like Kimi at Suzuka in 2005. Granted, timeline is a bit obscure and mostly irrelevant, but his phone calls were hilarious. I'll just end with my favorite quote of the night:

- "I'm getting a hard-on in the middle of the race!"

Lando to Jarv while discussing race strategy (McLaren performance engineer)

Edited March 23 by janbonator

[UP100 1,151]

7 hours ago, steviejay69 said:

I realise you have some kind of role here but trying to defend the indefensible, you should really just shut up. And I missed a word out somewhere.

Well it's up for you to decide if I'm defending something or not. In reality though, I made a horrible joke, and stated a quite a well known thing about fixing bugs in videogames that's happening with almost every game out there 😛 

It's not like this is an end of the world for me. I called this weeks ago when the Not the Australian GP was announced! ...because it's quite an easy guess

Edited March 23 by UP100

[aartstyle 98]

This was really a joke. The day before we have seen the online race with RF2 at indianapolis (was also broadcasted at a big sports channel in the netherlands). Ok the graphics are not the best, but it worked perfectly. Codemasters showed to the whole world that they are not capable to organize a working online racing game. I hope someone at the FIA has a look at the F1 game contract with codemasters......

 

 

[ChasteWand 178]

1 hour ago, aartstyle said:

This was really a joke. The day before we have seen the online race with RF2 at indianapolis (was also broadcasted at a big sports channel in the netherlands). Ok the graphics are not the best, but it worked perfectly. Codemasters showed to the whole world that they are not capable to organize a working online racing game. I hope someone at the FIA has a look at the F1 game contract with codemasters......

 

 

I can't comment on the graphics for the RF2 stream, but honestly f1 2019 didn't exactly shine. From the broadcast cameras the cars and the track didn't even look like they belonged in the same scene.

As the OP commented, the codemasters f1 game, as advertised, is now fully esports ready. It is there for the world to see. Moreover we have two amazing endorsements from current f1 drivers Lando and Max.

It would seem codemasters are completely blind to the shortcomings dispite the community feedback. BarryBL, can we please hear your feedback on this video evidence?

Personally I fail to see how under the trade descriptions act codemasters get away with the hyperbole they peddle in advertising the game, and how the video game media allow them to get away with it by endorsing the product with rave reviews. Something here is surely not fit for purpose...

It is way past time the FIA awarded the license for the formula one game to another developer.

 

 

[AlexTT 489]

24 minutes ago, ChasteWand said:

I can't comment on the graphics for the RF2 stream, but honestly f1 2019 didn't exactly shine. From the broadcast cameras the cars and the track didn't even look like they belonged in the same scene.

As the OP commented, the codemasters f1 game, as advertised, is now fully esports ready. It is there for the world to see. Moreover we have two amazing endorsements from current f1 drivers Lando and Max.

It would seem codemasters are completely blind to the shortcomings dispite the community feedback. BarryBL, can we please hear your feedback on this video evidence?

Personally I fail to see how under the trade descriptions act codemasters get away with the hyperbole they peddle in advertising the game, and how the video game media allow them to get away with it by endorsing the product with rave reviews. Something here is surely not fit for purpose...

It is way past time the FIA awarded the license for the formula one game to another developer.

 

 

Well... that license isn't going anywhere else for a long time sadly. 
 

we can hope that CM finally opened their eyes after this embarrassment, but i highly doubt it.
 

I will bet that they will send out a press release out "what a enormous success the race was and how excellent the game performed" 

let's hope they embarass themselves more this way so everyone on social media can burn them down and maybe F1 will reconsider the contract. But that's wishfull thinking.

looking at all our efforts and their ignorance at whatever we point out, CM won't change a thing. F1 2020 will be the same joke as the rest when it comes to online. Mark my words.

And don't get me wrong, but when Lando and Max BOTH online are negative about this game, when it's obvious that other official F1 drivers aren't even interested in joining these races, but rather spend their time on another online race sim, should be a wake up call. 
 

but as CM does al those years is take the easy way out, and make an online abomination and whoever critizes them, they don't care. Because of they did, they would have build something good and learned from their failures in stead of beeing ignorant.

Edited March 23 by AlexTT

[ChasteWand 178]

24 minutes ago, AlexTT said:

Well... that license isn't going anywhere else for a long time sadly. 
 

we can hope that CM finally opened their eyes after this embarrassment, but i highly doubt it.
 

I will bet that they will send out a press release out "what a enormous success the race was and how excellent the game performed" 

let's hope they embarass themselves more this way so everyone on social media can burn them down and maybe F1 will reconsider the contract. But that's wishfull thinking.

looking at all our efforts and their ignorance at whatever we point out, CM won't change a thing. F1 2020 will be the same joke as the rest when it comes to online. Mark my words.

And don't get me wrong, but when Lando and Max BOTH online are negative about this game, when it's obvious that other official F1 drivers aren't even interested in joining these races, but rather spend their time on another online race sim, should be a wake up call. 
 

but as CM does al those years is take the easy way out, and make an online abomination and whoever critizes them, they don't care. Because of they did, they would have build something good and learned from their failures in stead of beeing ignorant.

I saw, as we all did, news of the contract extension. I haven't bought the game new for many years now, and for the first time ever, won't bother with the 19 game. I only read and post on this forum in the hope that things will improve, perhaps this kind of embarrassment will be learned from. Lando's video with any luck will go viral...

Edited March 23 by ChasteWand

[scottishwildcat 187]

They've been running a televised esports series with the same sorts of issues for 3 years, so I doubt yesterday's events will change much.

The reality is, most casual viewers (e.g. my father-in-law, who'd never watched a video game stream in his life before yesterday) won't even have noticed half the things that we did. They'd just have seen some spectacular crashes on lap 1 and some decent battles after that, i.e. some reasonable entertainment. The only things he thought were "wrong" was a) no captions to say which driver we were looking at, and b) no replays. (And all the waffle at the beginning, which was presumably exacerbated by the reduction to a 25% race.)

Edited March 23 by scottishwildcat

[TomAAA 447]

Love the broadcast online earlier before it where Hulkenberg said he uses Med TC, as no assists feels nothing like an F1 car and like its on ice lol

[Bicarda 465]

34 minutes ago, ChasteWand said:

I saw, as we all did, news of the contract extension. I haven't bought the game new for many years now, and for the first time ever, won't bother with the 19 game. I only read and post on this forum in the hope that things will improve, perhaps this kind of embarrassment will be learned from. Lando's video with any luck will go viral...

Tough times bud. 
You're putting your hopes in a company that doesn't give a damn about you, the license they're exploiting, or the e-sports they advertise to be ready for. 

[advanceapple 125]

 

I'm happy with the good figure of ... that they did last night, so they learn (no they don't learn) to release games like that.

[TMRFOXHUNTER 27]

10 minutes ago, advanceapple said:

 

I'm happy with the good figure of ... that they did last night, so they learn (no they don't learn) to release games like that.

Hello my friend,cya again here🤣

[advanceapple 125]

1 minute ago, TMRFOXHUNTER said:

Hello my friend,cya again here🤣

 

I said that I would be silent for some time. but I continued to read and finally what I expected happened, a very good figure of ... in the world of vision, because it is this "WORLD OF VISION". I wonder if they have the courage to play a decent game this time. 😄

[Icefalcon 16]

18 minutes ago, advanceapple said:

 

I said that I would be silent for some time. but I continued to read and finally what I expected happened, a very good figure of ... in the world of vision, because it is this "WORLD OF VISION". I wonder if they have the courage to play a decent game this time. 😄

Codemasters needs help !! Hystory made us realize they can't make a decent multiplayer game.

They should cooperate with other software house

[advanceapple 125]

14 minutes ago, Icefalcon said:

Codemasters needs help !! Hystory made us realize they can't make a decent multiplayer game.

They should cooperate with other software house

 

they are afraid to face certain situations, it would not be good for them to play a simulation game, for serious economic losses. so they do these game abortions. Copy paste and some changes there and there. they must change course at least for ps5, after which it will be known if they have dug the pit by themselves or there is the elusive quality step. if I were Liberty media I would climb a few years on the 7 + 2 contract are too many. and meanwhile let's enjoy what happened last night. 😄

[AlexTT 489]

3 hours ago, TomAAA said:

Love the broadcast online earlier before it where Hulkenberg said he uses Med TC, as no assists feels nothing like an F1 car and like its on ice lol

Well, Hulk isn't like a rookie right? They need to get people like him in to help develop the true handling model of the cars. With all respect, but Davidson is out way too long to even remotely come near the knowledge of the handling model of the past F1 cars.

Hulkenberg would be a golden asset in this case. Though he never had a podium, he was always a constant driver who drove for multiple teams and knows the differences between good and bad cars. 

[AlexTT 489]

3 minutes ago, advanceapple said:

 

they are afraid to face certain situations, it would not be good for them to play a simulation game, for serious economic losses. so they do these game abortions. Copy paste and some changes there and there. they must change course at least for ps5, after which it will be known if they have dug the pit by themselves or there is the elusive quality step. if I were Liberty media I would climb a few years on the 7 + 2 contract are too many. and meanwhile let's enjoy what happened last night. 😄

Like I already say for years... 

 

CM is ignorant to critisism and failure. 

[AlexTT 489]

3 hours ago, scottishwildcat said:

They've been running a televised esports series with the same sorts of issues for 3 years, so I doubt yesterday's events will change much.

The reality is, most casual viewers (e.g. my father-in-law, who'd never watched a video game stream in his life before yesterday) won't even have noticed half the things that we did. They'd just have seen some spectacular crashes on lap 1 and some decent battles after that, i.e. some reasonable entertainment. The only things he thought were "wrong" was a) no captions to say which driver we were looking at, and b) no replays. (And all the waffle at the beginning, which was presumably exacerbated by the reduction to a 25% race.)

Well, anyone could see already from the start something was terribly wrong when the timing shows people minutes or laps behind after 50 meters from the start and they way cars were "moving" on screen. 
 

if I was the developper, i would look for an uninhabitated island and go there to feel embarrased as hell.