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Receiving 5/10 second time penalties for cutting a corner under SC/VSC conditions

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1.       A description of the issue. Please include any error codes here. 
When under Safety car/Virtual safety car conditions, cutting a corner slightly will often result in an instant 5 or 10 second time penalty. Receiving a warning would be understandable somehow, but an instant 5 or 10 second time penalty is way too harsh and should in fact be fixed in a future patch.

2.       What version of the game you are using (Shown on the start screen in the bottom left corner of the screen) 
All drivers involved are playing the game using the latest patch version 1.22


3.       Game-mode? 
Multiplayer Unranked private lobby

4.       Are you able to recreate the issue? If so, please include recreation steps on how you encountered this issue. 
Go in a server with more than a couple of drivers. Cause the safety car to come out or let the race be under VSC conditions. Cut a corner slightly, shortly go off track with at least 3 tires on the inside of the corner. Good examples are Lesmo 1 (turn 6), Lesmo 2 (turn 7) and the inside of the first turn of Ascari (turn 8 ) on Monza. It will often give you an instant penalty.


5.       How often do you see this problem? Is it the only time or does it always happen? 
I see it appear/happen in way too many inquiries written by members of the AOR leagues.


6.       Have you tried any troubleshooting? We recommend the steps here as a starting point for any issues. Please let us know what troubleshooting methods you have tried while creating this post. 
Not much I personally could do, besides telling people not to run out of talent while being under SC/VSC conditions.


7.       Any accessories you are using (gamepad, wheel etc) 
A wheel. Also, a keyboard to write this message.


8.       Any screenshots or video of the issue? If the video is long, please include a timestamp for when the issue appears.  

 

 

 

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Third video is blocked by FOM, fourth video's time stamp (if on mobile, or if not working correctly) is 54:20

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Hi @psYchovic77,

Was there warnings previously? Is there always an instant penalty?

Just corner cutting under SC shouldn't really happen. 

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6 hours ago, BarryBL said:

Hi @psYchovic77,

Was there warnings previously? Is there always an instant penalty?

Just corner cutting under SC shouldn't really happen. 

There were no warnings before. Warnings also only add up for three second time penalties, which I intentionally did not include here. The 5 and 10 second penalties were instant. It's not supposed to happen, but it does happen frequently (which all the footage I provided proves). All footage provided was gathered from inquiries written by the drivers of our league. So all these cases happened on the same night in 11 different 'splits'.

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15 hours ago, BarryBL said:

Hi @psYchovic77,

Was there warnings previously? Is there always an instant penalty?

Just corner cutting under SC shouldn't really happen. 

It's like the track limits detection goes on holiday under SC/VSC. And yes the penalties are "boom".

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Okay, I'll investigate this and see how often I can replicate the issue. Although corner cutting under SC/VSC seems like a really strange thing to do, having an instant penalty is odd. I'm guessing you have corner cutting on 'strict'

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Before patch 1.20 (which fixed the Safety car deployment) you could drive wherever you want under the Safety Car, if you cut a whole corner, that was fine.

I personally think that how it was before the patch 1.20 was perfect, I mean corner cutting warnings behind the Safety Car has no point anyway because you are not allowed to overtake and can't take an advantage.

Don't know why it worked before patch 1.20 and ever since you get warnings/penalties 😕

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6 hours ago, BarryBL said:

Okay, I'll investigate this and see how often I can replicate the issue. Although corner cutting under SC/VSC seems like a really strange thing to do, having an instant penalty is odd. I'm guessing you have corner cutting on 'strict'

As far as I know, it is very common to have the corner cutting setting to strict in league racing, as the regular setting allows for too much corner extending and corner cutting without receiving a warning. So in an ideal world, there would be a corner cutting setting which has most of the 'strict' rules with a more loose approach under safety car/virtual safety car conditions.

And of course it's a strange thing to do. In most cases it's unintentional/an accident.

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For me, a SC/VSC period is a short moment to just reset yourself/calm down/relax and I think you are not focused as much in this short time, and to keep aware of track limits is a thing that doesn't allow you to fully switch off I feel like.

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On 4/7/2020 at 6:47 PM, BarryBL said:

Hi @psYchovic77,

Was there warnings previously? Is there always an instant penalty?

Just corner cutting under SC shouldn't really happen. 

The Penalties are instantly given , even for Track extensions under SC or VSC . No previous Warnings are taken into account.

Other issues with the SC :

  • Backmarkers unable to unlap themselves
  • If being driven into from behind, the guy that was hit from behind get a Drive Through Penalty / 10 Seconds ?

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23 hours ago, BarryBL said:

Okay, I'll investigate this and see how often I can replicate the issue. Although corner cutting under SC/VSC seems like a really strange thing to do, having an instant penalty is odd. I'm guessing you have corner cutting on 'strict'

Yes  , Corner Cutting is on Strict.

But there is no advantage really gained by Corner Cutting at 50% Speed ....

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At this moment in time, it is still something under review as with other SC behaviours for consideration for future titles. 

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