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I play with default setup against 102-105 AI. Currently doing a 100% distance championship mode.

I only change the differential (50% usually) and the brake bias. I tend to start the race with the precise number of laps of fuel (so no over/under fueling).

I gain a lot at the end of the first stint, manage or increase the lead in the second, but then in the last 10-20 laps their pace becomes crazy.

Am I doing anything wrong? Should I close the diff a bit or reduce the front wing over the course of the race? Or is it just the AI?

I experienced it a lot in 2018 but didn't notice it in 2019. I'm finding the default balanced setup very good against the AI. It's fast and doesn't overpower the user in the straight. I think that using the default setup against the AI improves the offline experience. But the pace the AI finds at the end of the race is killing me.

I'm supposing it's caused by one (or more) of those thing:

-It's championship mode so I have a new engine each time but I'm wearing it a bit during the race and the AI doesn't

-The AI is running without any sort of battery and ERS wear

-The AI uses all of its extra laps of fuel at the end

-It's just a bug

-I'm not adjusting accordingly the handling of the car (via differential or front wing)

 

Guys, i need help! 

Edited by sirio994

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Championship mode needs a massive overhaul for 2020. I only play championship season. Not sure why Codemasters can’t put everything they have in career mode like upgrades and part wear etc into championship mode. Been saying this for 4/5 years but never get anywhere.😩😩

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2 minutes ago, peanutt2000 said:

Championship mode needs a massive overhaul for 2020. I only play championship season. Not sure why Codemasters can’t put everything they have in career mode like upgrades and part wear etc into championship mode. Been saying this for 4/5 years but never get anywhere.😩😩

Hi @peanutt2000,

To sort of show the other side of the coin here, if we added everything in Career Mode into Championship Mode, it would be the 2 modes that are the same. The aim for Championship is for players to simply drive the sessions, and not have to manage Upgrades, Part Wear, Driver Transfers etc.

To try to answer your question @sirio994, it could be a few factors. I play at a similar AI (I've slowly gone from 85 to now 103) and I noticed that mostly it was me. Because I am now playing at a higher level, I'm having to concentrate more and being 'at my peak' in terms of lap time every lap sort of reflects in my pace at the end of races especially. I have the same in for Forum Championship, I'm on the pace early but it becomes tough to maintain the pace towards the end of the race, because everyone is so quick. Do you feel you make mistakes at the end of the race? I do, just little ones. 

From a games perspective, it could be tyre wear perhaps vs AI who won't run off line as much as the player, being more efficient. They should be consistent in their usage of things like ERS and Fuel. Maybe a few more tweaks to the setup could find a little extra pace.

Just, from my experience, it's my lack of long run consistency. Even offline, towards the end of races, I find it a little tough to not switch off if I'm not fighting anyone, or I get a little desperate in chasing/defending, causing me to actually lose time.

Not saying that is you, but that is my weakness now I've upped my level of competition.

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1 hour ago, BarryBL said:

Hi @peanutt2000,

To sort of show the other side of the coin here, if we added everything in Career Mode into Championship Mode, it would be the 2 modes that are the same. The aim for Championship is for players to simply drive the sessions, and not have to manage Upgrades, Part Wear, Driver Transfers etc.

To try to answer your question @sirio994, it could be a few factors. I play at a similar AI (I've slowly gone from 85 to now 103) and I noticed that mostly it was me. Because I am now playing at a higher level, I'm having to concentrate more and being 'at my peak' in terms of lap time every lap sort of reflects in my pace at the end of races especially. I have the same in for Forum Championship, I'm on the pace early but it becomes tough to maintain the pace towards the end of the race, because everyone is so quick. Do you feel you make mistakes at the end of the race? I do, just little ones. 

From a games perspective, it could be tyre wear perhaps vs AI who won't run off line as much as the player, being more efficient. They should be consistent in their usage of things like ERS and Fuel. Maybe a few more tweaks to the setup could find a little extra pace.

Just, from my experience, it's my lack of long run consistency. Even offline, towards the end of races, I find it a little tough to not switch off if I'm not fighting anyone, or I get a little desperate in chasing/defending, causing me to actually lose time.

Not saying that is you, but that is my weakness now I've upped my level of competition.

Thanks for replying.

So why not make career mode where there is an option to control a real life driver or create your own driver? That way you are catering for both players who want and like creating there own driver and catering for people like me who would like to choose a real life driver and do the career mode stuff with managing part wear, upgrades etc

Thanks for replying could you pass my idea on to the people could make this happen I really don’t think it’s that big of an ask It’s just simply Use real driver or create your own.

Not holding out a lot of hope for this in 2020 sadly, I just think the Championship mode needs a lot more depth.

Cheers.

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8 hours ago, BarryBL said:

Hi @peanutt2000,

To sort of show the other side of the coin here, if we added everything in Career Mode into Championship Mode, it would be the 2 modes that are the same. The aim for Championship is for players to simply drive the sessions, and not have to manage Upgrades, Part Wear, Driver Transfers etc.

To try to answer your question @sirio994, it could be a few factors. I play at a similar AI (I've slowly gone from 85 to now 103) and I noticed that mostly it was me. Because I am now playing at a higher level, I'm having to concentrate more and being 'at my peak' in terms of lap time every lap sort of reflects in my pace at the end of races especially. I have the same in for Forum Championship, I'm on the pace early but it becomes tough to maintain the pace towards the end of the race, because everyone is so quick. Do you feel you make mistakes at the end of the race? I do, just little ones. 

From a games perspective, it could be tyre wear perhaps vs AI who won't run off line as much as the player, being more efficient. They should be consistent in their usage of things like ERS and Fuel. Maybe a few more tweaks to the setup could find a little extra pace.

Just, from my experience, it's my lack of long run consistency. Even offline, towards the end of races, I find it a little tough to not switch off if I'm not fighting anyone, or I get a little desperate in chasing/defending, causing me to actually lose time.

Not saying that is you, but that is my weakness now I've upped my level of competition.

I play with a difficulty level that is under the one I should set. Before every season or championship I test the level in qualify to see if I'm able to get pole with a good lap everywhere. So essentially I know that if I do a good lap I can get pole with that setting.

I never practice before the race too, so I find my pace during the race. It should be the opposite (even in league racing I tend to be faster as the race goes on).

I've studied the races I've done so far and I'm almost sure that it is fuel or ERS related.

I'll probably test auto ERS and the default fuel.

@BarryBL

Does auto ERS use the same logic of the AI?

Does the AI race with the fuel load I see in the strategy menu?

I'm asking cause if that's the case it means the AI is over fueling the car and consequently has more fuel to burn at the end.

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