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Dishing the DIRT - Two Teams, One Future

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We're making two very different but equally awesome racing games.

Two distinct varieties of DIRT from two dedicated Codemasters teams.

 

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From a simple ‘2.0’ in late 2018, to the game’s launch in early 2019, through four Seasons of epic content, and onto the Colin McRae: FLAT OUT Pack and Game of the Year Edition, DiRT Rally 2.0 has been an incredible journey that we’ve been on with you, our passionate rally and rallycross community.  

As a team, we set out to create the definitive rally and rallycross experience for you, both in terms of what you can experience, and how you experience it. None of that would be possible without the support of you, the players, not just by playing DiRT Rally 2.0, but having the passion and willingness to be part of a true gaming community. You work with us to keep the game moving forward with patches, updates and improvements built around your feedback.

From everyone who has contributed to DiRT Rally 2.0 here at Codemasters, we simply say: thank you for driving with us.  

 

Whilst there are no plans for additional Seasons for DiRT Rally 2.0, some minor updates and surprises are planned. At this stage, the Rally team is now focusing on the future. By no means are we saying this is “the end” for DiRT Rally 2.0. Daily/Weekly/Monthly Challenges live on, Clubs are stronger than ever and you have plenty of esports action to look forward to. 

Nothing’s moving in terms of your usual hangout spaces (the Forums, the fan-made Discord, Reddit, YouTube, Twitter) and your support team for DiRT Rally 2.0 are still very much here to help.

 

Prepare to see something new roar to life in the world of DiRT, very soon. Developed by a separate Codemasters studio to the DiRT Rally team, we’re incredibly excited about what’s around the corner. We invite you to be part of a brand new experience, while also continuing to enjoy our definitive Rally offering. 

 

As for the future of DiRT Rally? Well… we have a few things in mind. We have big plans, driven by a passionate development team, solely tasked with taking the Rally series to even greater heights. You won’t hear about that for a while, but when you do... oh boy, will you be excited for what’s coming.  

Whether it’s our latest game soon to be revealed, or what comes next for Rally, we are incredibly excited to continue making DiRT the franchise for everything we all love about off-road racing. 

 

 

“If in doubt... FLAT OUT” 

-the team at Codemasters

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Like a lot of us who enjoy Dirt Rally 2, I’m really hoping the simulation aspect is retained for whatever the next dev project will be. It’s the feeling of immersion, the feeling that you’re as close as possible to being in a rally car, that keeps many of us hooked. VR is absolutely essential from the outset in my view (although many will disagree). 

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1 hour ago, PJTierney said:

Whilst there are no plans for additional Seasons for DiRT Rally 2.0, some minor updates and surprises are planned. At this stage, the Rally team is now focusing on the future. By no means are we saying this is “the end” for DiRT Rally 2.0. Daily/Weekly/Monthly Challenges live on, Clubs are stronger than ever and you have plenty of esports action to look forward to. 

 

Nothing’s moving in terms of your usual hangout spaces (the Forums, the fan-made Discord, Reddit, YouTube, Twitter) and your support team for DiRT Rally 2.0 are still very much here to help.

so with DiRT Rally 2.0 slowly phasing out in favor of future endeavors,

are there any chance of the Career mode being able to be played offline sometime in future , now in the covid days, may connection is saldy unstable which makes racing the career quite a pain :-(

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I expect the next DiRT instalment to be similar to that of D3/D4 so I’m really hoping Outbreak from D3 makes a reappearance. It was such good fun. Would absolutely love a car game that you could just pick up and play on a controller and have some fun with. D2 & D3 provided just that. 

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On 5/4/2020 at 9:20 AM, vincefurtif said:

I just have a question about dirt rally 2.0, is it that on pc we will one day be able to add mods of livery on cars in dlc?

This isn't going to happen, sorry.

 

23 hours ago, prudislavCz said:

so with DiRT Rally 2.0 slowly phasing out in favor of future endeavors,

are there any chance of the Career mode being able to be played offline sometime in future 

"ripping out" online server connectivity from various game modes is estimated to be a multi-month long project because the entire game is built around it. In other words, not happening.

What is happening though is continued work on the DiRT Rally 2.0 servers; in fact, 2 big updates went out last week which greatly helped with capacity, as well as response time to server requests related to Clubs. Based on how this weekend went it seemed to be a big improvement.

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22 hours ago, PJTierney said:

"ripping out" online server connectivity from various game modes is estimated to be a multi-month long project because the entire game is built around it. In other words, not happening.

But you are aware that this means we will only be able to play Career mode only as long as Codemasters keep this server running?

 

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31 minutes ago, Rallycameraman said:

I expect the next DiRT instalment to be similar to that of D3/D4 so I’m really hoping Outbreak from D3 makes a reappearance. It was such good fun. Would absolutely love a car game that you could just pick up and play on a controller and have some fun with. D2 & D3 provided just that. 

I’ve been playing wreckfest a lot, it’s the absolute ideal game for dirt 3’s party game modes! Still a really fun game to mess about online with and take people out

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"Prepare to see something new roar to life in the world of DiRT, very soon. Developed by a separate Codemasters studio to the DiRT Rally team, we’re incredibly excited about what’s around the corner." - A separate team is developing Dirt 5 and will be announced very soon. Pic profile as the same graphic design from previous versions 2 or 3, not Dirt 4.

"As for the future of DiRT Rally? Well… we have a few things in mind. We have big plans, driven by a passionate development team, solely tasked with taking the Rally series to even greater heights. You won’t hear about that for a while, but when you do... oh boy, will you be excited for what’s coming."  - Something like Dirt Rally 3.0 already prepared for the next generation of consoles, it will take a while to get out, however they give us Dirt 5 to entertain us?

Mean while take a look of a tribute that i make for DR2.0.
Enjoy it

 

 

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14 minutes ago, RallyDriven said:

Sadly wreckfest doesn’t have cross platform either

No racing game does currently, except for recent Forza titles.

 

Closest is DiRT Rally 2.0's cross-platform leaderboards.

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4 minutes ago, PJTierney said:

No racing game does currently, except for recent Forza titles.

 

Closest is DiRT Rally 2.0's cross-platform leaderboards.

Rocket league? Just kidding, unlike all the game awards I know it’s not a racing game. I was bored during lockdown so I got COD for the first time in 10 years, I’ve been really enjoying played non cross platform with my friends on PlayStation, hope this becomes more popular in the future

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As for the future of DiRT Rally? Well… we have a few things in mind. We have big plans, driven by a passionate development team, solely tasked with taking the Rally series to even greater heights. You won’t hear about that for a while, but when you do... oh boy, will you be excited for what’s coming.  

 

Fingers crossed for Dirt Rally 3.0 and i dont see why they wouldnt make it. For being a rally game with a bit more difficult-to-drive-physics than your regular arcade game it seems to have done a good job to attract players from the more casual to the really fast guys. A great balance of both being challenging to making it playable for the ones looking for a more casual experience. DR2.0 is the game ive put the most hours in in the shortest amount of time, ever.

 

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8 minutes ago, RallyDriven said:

Rocket league? Just kidding, unlike all the game awards I know it’s not a racing game. I was bored during lockdown so I got COD for the first time in 10 years, I’ve been really enjoying played non cross platform with my friends on PlayStation, hope this becomes more popular in the future

I've done cross platform on Street Fighter V before, helps with population numbers 🙂 

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1 hour ago, BlackCatMatt said:

I hope one of those surprises for DR2 is adding the Hyundai i20 RX. 😬🤩

That is the first thing I thought of when I read about the "surprises" as well! 

Nicely worded post. Certainly isn't a flawless game but, in my personal opinion, this is the most complete DiRT game that CM have put out. I daresay the community has been instrumental in making that happen. 

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13 minutes ago, Rallycameraman said:

Yeah DR3 😂😂

We can always hope! You’ve got a PS4 haven’t you? I got my brother DR2 a little while ago, he’s been doing some rallycross online. Could you smash him into a wall for me please?

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11 minutes ago, Birdman44 said:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Whilst one journey remains FLAT OUT, another journey is about to begin. <br><br>A letter to our incredible DiRT Rally 2.0 players: <a href="https://t.co/Lh49hfjnu9">https://t.co/Lh49hfjnu9</a><br><br>Now, prepare for something… different. ⚡ <a href="https://t.co/6Uavy84d9B">pic.twitter.com/6Uavy84d9B</a></p>&mdash; DiRT (@dirtgame) <a href="https://twitter.com/dirtgame/status/1257218432464039937?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

This is what came to my mind when i saw this...

https://www.fiaworldrallycross.com/article/10469/img-unveils-projekt-e-racecar

The background color, the flash emoji...

Really good thoughts. 

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This is a quite expected letter.

Still very disappointed, though.
"seperate studio", "brand new experience"...the gamer in me says "oh oh, some bs will come".
I expect a arcady DiRT 5 or (even worse) a DiRT Showdown esque spin-off behind those PR-blabla.
The more it is away from rally, so less interested I am.

The future of DiRT Rally sounds like we won't see a DR3 in 2020 and 2021 for sure.
I hope they really, really listened to the fans and make a great offline single player career mode this time.

We will see, but my expectation is extremely low now after this letter.

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Can you confirm there will be more patches after 1.14?
Does it still make sense to post a bug report?

I don't expect any content anymore, but there are still 2-3 (small) things I wanna see get fixed before the game rests in it's final state.
Would be cool, because it looks like I will play the game for another 2 years.
 

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11 minutes ago, UnderclassGDfan said:

Can you confirm there will be more patches after 1.14?

"Version 1.15 is in development, with only minor and essential changes planned, and is expected to release in mid to late 2020."

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17 minutes ago, UnderclassGDfan said:

Can you confirm there will be more patches after 1.14?

Yes

 

17 minutes ago, UnderclassGDfan said:

Does it still make sense to post a bug report?

Yes but bear in mind that the majority of the team have moved onto "the future of rally", so expect further updates to be very light, even in comparison to 1.14.

 

 

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I’m assuming the plan is to split the franchise up into two separate entities, like Forza motorsport and horizon. I’m looking forward to seeing what they’ve got planned, but I get the feeling that it’s probably not Going to be for me

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1 minute ago, PJTierney said:

Yes but bear in mind that the majority of the team have moved onto "the future of rally", so expect further updates to be very light, even in comparison to 1.14.

The only 2 bugs that really annoy me are the stats bug (monthlies count more than 1 "events started" in car stats) and the broken windscreen mirror-effect on the S4 Rally (I posted in the bug report-thread).
So really small things, but with a big impact to my experience.
I stopped doing monthlies last summer to not ruin my stats.

 

BUT since the next patch is coming out "sometime this year" (lol) I think I give up.

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15 minutes ago, RallyDriven said:

I’m assuming the plan is to split the franchise up into two separate entities, like Forza motorsport and horizon. I’m looking forward to seeing what they’ve got planned, but I get the feeling that it’s probably not Going to be for me

I am thinking the same... but I'm not completely ruling out that the new entity might appeal to me! 

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19 minutes ago, RallyDriven said:

I’m assuming the plan is to split the franchise up into two separate entities, like Forza motorsport and horizon. I’m looking forward to seeing what they’ve got planned, but I get the feeling that it’s probably not Going to be for me

 

3 minutes ago, tbtstt said:

I am thinking the same... but I'm not completely ruling out that the new entity might appeal to me! 

Err...the franchise is already splitted into two: DiRT and DiRT Rally.
+ DiRT Showdown as a spin off.

For me the letter sounds like the next DiRT game won't have rally in it, so probably circuit racing in mud or something.
Wouldn't even think of buying something like that...just saying.

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Err...the franchise is already splitted into two: DiRT and DiRT Rally.
+ DiRT Showdown as a spin off.

For me the letter sounds like the next DiRT game won't have rally in it, so probably circuit racing in mud or something.
Wouldn't even think of buying something like that...just saying.

Yeah I know, but I mean a more obvious split. The series has been a bit all over the place since dirt 3. Spin off, a second spin off, a confused dirt 3 sequel, and then a sequel to the second spin off. They’re probably going to try and make it more streamlined 

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2 minutes ago, RallyDriven said:

Yeah I know, but I mean a more obvious split. The series has been a bit all over the place since dirt 3. Spin off, a second spin off, a confused dirt 3 sequel, and then a sequel to the second spin off. They’re probably going to try and make it more streamlined 

By splitting it again?

If they really want a 4th big franchise (after F1, DiRT and GRiD) they should change the name of DiRT and let DiRT Rally keep continuing the Colin McRae Rally history.

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1 hour ago, azakamifujino said:

I will stick on DR2 and RBR if the new dirt is an arcade game. Rally do not need arcade game.

Why doesn’t it? Why can’t there be a game which is fun and you can just pick up and play. What’s all this BS that every racing game has to be serious sim. It’s boring. 

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Oof... great, sound like more half baked, big ridden console garbage. 

Actually after all support and money... and trust I've given CM over these last few years only to be strong along and let down, it'll be fun to watch this ship sink. 

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