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A 4 player Splitscreen, a big Career Mode, over 70 Routes around the world, this game will be amazing and the Trailer was sooooo amazing!! Dirt 2+3 Memories, I can't wait ūüôā

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Good and very fun yes but not same than dirt  2 and 3 

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Let's wait until it's available but for me it sounds as a fun racer for gamepad couch coop ... so nothing for me.

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5 hours ago, Katzenkralle91 said:

A 4 player Splitscreen, a big Career Mode, over 70 Routes around the world, this game will be amazing and the Trailer was sooooo amazing!! Dirt 2+3 Memories, I can't wait ūüôā

Depends how you look at it. If it's 'the Codemasters way' then those "70 routes around the world" could just as easily be five or six countries with a single location split into multiple routes and If you throw in multiple disciplines (arena vehicles, Trailblazer etc) then that content could be further watered down when shared amongst those disciplines. I hate to sound cynical but if pretty visuals are going to result in just another game with wafer thin base content and expensive deluxe editions to bolster up that content then having experienced a similar scenario with Grid (which boasted more than 70 routes) I don't particularly want down that path again.

But it's early says so we shall wait and see if the leopard has finally changed it's spots before jumping to any conclusions. 

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On 5/8/2020 at 8:55 AM, _BorisTheFrog_ said:

Depends how you look at it. If it's 'the Codemasters way' then those "70 routes around the world" could just as easily be five or six countries with a single location split into multiple routes and If you throw in multiple disciplines (arena vehicles, Trailblazer etc) then that content could be further watered down when shared amongst those disciplines

well, a) they've said 10 countries. b) I expect they're counting multiple routes per discipline per location. so, there will probably be more than 2 or more ice tracks on the river in NYC, but they've also said that there will also be racing in the city in other seasons.

as a quick comparison, Dirt 2 had 9 countries and about 30 total routes. Dirt 3 had 10 locations and ~64 routes (including all rally routes, many of which overlapped or reversed), plus the 6 Gymkhana areas and Battersea compound.

so expect a similar amount of content to Dirt 3, but with sprint car racing instead of gymkhana. that's pretty good in my opinion (except for the sprint cars haha), especially if there's more variety in the rally routes (even if the absolute number of them is lower).

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4 hours ago, ianism said:

so expect a similar amount of content to Dirt 3, but with sprint car racing instead of gymkhana. that's pretty good in my opinion (except for the sprint cars haha), especially if there's more variety in the rally routes (even if the absolute number of them is lower).

I think we've already learned a harsh lesson with Grid in the expectation department when it comes to content comparisons from previous versions but the less said the better where that franchise is concerned. Besides which, Dirt 4 had 13 locations (I think) and we all know how thinly that spreads over multiple disciplines as well as how repetitive it starts to become when racing the same few circuits for those disciplines over and over in career mode. 

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Lol this game isn't even out and a lot of people hate it.... Let's wait for some gameplay and for the release. I personally like all Dirt Games from Codies. The Trailer was very cool in my opinion. It looks like a mix of Forza Horizon and Dirt for me. Let's wait. I hope it is like Dirt 2 with a lot of Content ūüôā Dirt 2 was/is and maybe still my fav. Dirt game. I am very hyped for this game.

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On 5/8/2020 at 10:55 PM, Katzenkralle91 said:

Lol this game isn't even out and a lot of people hate it.... Let's wait for some gameplay and for the release.

This game isn't even out and you say it will be amazing.

Maybe you should wait for some gameplay and for the release. Instead of being all hyped and calling the game amazing based of just an effing trailer

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It's confirmed! 120 FPS on Xbox so finally normal frame rate even on consoles.

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DiRT 5 looks like to ride on the Forza Horizon 4 bandwagon. Like The Crew 2 did.

I hate both of those games.

Awful bright colors, attention cars, attention disciplines, probably an annoying announcer, who screams in a microphone all the time.
I think it will be an arcade circuit racer with simple driving physics and focus on the action and atmosphere.
Another racing game for the Fortnite mayfly crowd.

Can be a very good game, like FH4 in it's essence is, but nothing for me.
I played way too many arcade racing games in the last 25 years to see any motivation to play this.
I'm too old for that s***.

 

The good thing is (how I understood the letter from Codemasters) that this doesn't effect the DiRT Rally-Franchise, so I just can ignore that game.

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I‚Äôm sure it will be a great off-road game for people that¬†are into Forza Horizon, Crew, Onrush an such, and the name ¬ęDirt¬Ľ can follow that road. Then the rally games for rally enthusiasts should change to something else than ¬ęDirt Rally¬Ľ, since rally isn‚Äôt about ¬ęoff road¬Ľ racing. It¬†is a form of motorsport¬†that takes place on public or private roads with modified production or specially built road-legal cars. These roads includes taramac roads, so in other words, not only ¬ędirt¬Ľ and certainly not off road.
 

Here is a nice comprihention of the history of the rally motorsport: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rallying 

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23 hours ago, HoksuHoo said:

This game isn't even out and you say it will be amazing.

Maybe you should wait for some gameplay and for the release. Instead of being all hyped and calling the game amazing based of just an effing trailer

to be fair, there are plenty of people who are saying the exact opposite lol

insert obviously wrong comments of "no stage rallies!" "Showdown 2" "$60 of DLC" "no post-launch support"

On 5/8/2020 at 2:47 PM, _BorisTheFrog_ said:

I think we've already learned a harsh lesson with Grid in the expectation department when it comes to content comparisons from previous versions but the less said the better where that franchise is concerned. Besides which, Dirt 4 had 13 locations (I think) and we all know how thinly that spreads over multiple disciplines as well as how repetitive it starts to become when racing the same few circuits for those disciplines over and over in career mode. 

D4 did have 13 locations, but the locations only had 1 discipline each, so yeah it spread very thin (though the landrush and RX careers were very short)

this is going more for a D2/D3 setup, so most (? ee don't actually know yet) locations will probably have 2-4 disciplines, so it won't be spread that thin. the other issue with D4 was that more half of the alternate routes on the landrush/RX tracks were junior/clubman circuits that you'd play once in career because you had to and then never, ever again. they didn't make that mistake with DR2, and I expect they won't make it with D5, since they're going back to the D2/D3 style that sold like 3-4 million copies

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3 hours ago, ianism said:

this is going more for a D2/D3 setup, so most (? ee don't actually know yet) locations will probably have 2-4 disciplines, so it won't be spread that thin. the other issue with D4 was that more half of the alternate routes on the landrush/RX tracks were junior/clubman circuits that you'd play once in career because you had to and then never, ever again. they didn't make that mistake with DR2, and I expect they won't make it with D5, since they're going back to the D2/D3 style that sold like 3-4 million copies

Well, let's wait and see. But my gut feeling still says the ten locations will be broken down in a similar way to previoius releases with specific disciplines being unique to specific locations. Codemasters are renown for giving away as little as possible (I wouldn't have been surprised they'd have released F1 2020 minus the cancelled races and added them back in at a later date as tacky £74.99 super-deluxe edition) and charging as much as possible so I honestly can't see this trend changing any time soon.

I sincerely hope that you're correct and there are no mistakes with D5 but I remember Micro Machines World tour (hopelessly short on content), Onrush (hopelessly short on content), reselling DR1 content in DR2 and of course Grid 2019 (hopelessly short on just about everything), all of which you'd have thought must have had some form of negative impact on how the games were received. So, hmm, let's not count our chickens just yet in the making mistakes with D5 department. 

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2 hours ago, _BorisTheFrog_ said:

Well, let's wait and see. But my gut feeling still says the ten locations will be broken down in a similar way to previoius releases with specific disciplines being unique to specific locations. Codemasters are renown for giving away as little as possible (I wouldn't have been surprised they'd have released F1 2020 minus the cancelled races and added them back in at a later date as tacky £74.99 super-deluxe edition) and charging as much as possible so I honestly can't see this trend changing any time soon.

I sincerely hope that you're correct and there are no mistakes with D5 but I remember Micro Machines World tour (hopelessly short on content), Onrush (hopelessly short on content), reselling DR1 content in DR2 and of course Grid 2019 (hopelessly short on just about everything), all of which you'd have thought must have had some form of negative impact on how the games were received. So, hmm, let's not count our chickens just yet in the making mistakes with D5 department. 

ah, you haven't seen this (otherwise pretty uninteresting) interview yet, have you? skip to 0:45 seconds in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFw752sJEhI

he makes it clear that different seasons offer different places to race in NYC, and I think it's safe to say that this will mean different event types too, (you can't race on ice year round) and will apply to other (if not all) locations: Norway (it looks like Lofoten, which is very far north) is pretty different from summer to winter, so it's worth showing, and the one shot in the trailer where they showed different seasons seemed to be in China.

the bottom line is that there's 70 routes, which roughly lines up with what Dirt 3 had (including the Japan & Monte Carlo DLC). 70 routes have to go somewhere. they're not going to have 10 locations each with 7 different routes in one discipline. that is a terrible way to design a game, and is completely contrary to how Dirt 2 and 3 were set up - not a good start for a game that's trying to emulate their atmosphere and success.

5 hours ago, Thierry97 said:

news on possible disciplines ???:classic_dry:

uh, they announced the game 3 days ago, on Thursday. Friday was a holiday, and Saturday and Sunday are what we call the weekend. or, as they say in france, le weekend. :classic_dry:

they've already put out a roadmap for all the announcements (lol @ that. how ridiculous.) so they already have a plan for when we find everything out. so we're going to have to wait.

so for disciplines, here are some safe guesses + things we know:

  • Sprint car racing (announced)
  • Ice racing (announced)
  • RX (obviously. and getting the Amplified edition gives you a free VW Beetle RX)
  • Rally (obviously. also C3 R5 and Escort Cosworth are announced)
  • Buggies (announced)

my predictions (not super likely, but possible imo):

  • something team-based. D2 and 3 had team-based things, and the game is supposed to enable¬†4 player split screen in career mode.
  • Raid? (you get a Ford F150 for preordering. however, it could be a landrush car, or something else)
  • Trailblazer? (2 RGT cars from DR2 were in the trailer)
  • Landrush (same as Raid)
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I admire the gentle and innocent optimism of the OP on this ūüėÄ

But I do hope that one good thing that might come from Dirt 5 is that it acts like a lightning-rod for all the 'gaminess' that Codies feel necessary to sell racing games.

So by removing the Dirt 4 'serious rally content (tm)' , and going full bubble-gum rinky-dink, that would leave Dirt 2.0 as the serious rally simulation. Meaning a shift to really photographic looking graphics, for example. I loved Richard Burns Rally's depiction of locations because they weren't over saturated or 'gamey' looking. Gateshead looked grey and bleak - great! It's actually more transporting that way.

And let's now, for the love of God, finally have a proper, decent, rewarding off-line career mode. NOT a management sim, mind you. But career progression with the feeling of being a rally driver working his or her way up.

 

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