Jump to content

Help Required With My Thrustmaster T2PA Pedals

Recommended Posts

Posted (edited)

Hi,

I purchased a T300RS back in 2017 which has the T2PA pedals. I only play F1 so I don't need a clutch pedal. I noticed, through the hole on the pedal base behind the pedal arm, that there was quite a bit of dust inside the pedal base. I undid the pedal plates (screwed to the pedal arms) and then undid all the screws on the underside and removed the top of the pedal base.

I was right, there was a lot of dust and I cleaned it up with some tissues. At some point I pushed each pedal in the opposite direction to when you use them in-game, so that I could get to dust close to the bottom of each pedal.

In moving the pedals back to the resting position I re-engaged the teeth of the pedal with the first grove of the potentiometer (is that what it is?). I screwed everything back together and thought nothing of it.

When I next played F1 2019 i had absolutely no brake pedal and only a slight amount of accelerator pedal. I have contacted Thrustmaster support, but due to Covid-19 there are extended delays in replying (up to 15 days).

Is anyone able to advise whether I need to engage the pedal with a different groove on the potentiometer? If you're able to open your own pedal base and observe your pedal engagement it would be hugely appreciated, as my pedals worked fine before simply giving them a clean. Otherwise, is there something within some Thrustmaster software that allows me to adjust how much brake effort is applied in-game.

Thanks in advance.

[EDIT: I should have mentioned that I only play on PS4.]

Pedal - Accelerator.JPG

Pedal - Brake.JPG

Edited by Skroce
Platform information added.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)

From the photo it's not really possible to tell, but it looks like the pedal arms will move to the right when pushed?

If that's the case, then as soon as you press the pedal, the two gears will stop touching.  The teeth on the pedal part will move down, away from the other one.

I may be totally wrong.  Not sure which direction the pedal arm will be moving.

I have the exact same set.  Let me know if you still need help and I'll try to get mine apart and take a photo for you.

Edited by DrDraken

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)

I reconise this issue.

I have the T3Pa pedals and i did open it up to change the spring in it and I had this issue also, but in my case, i did touch the potentiometer so it did not re-act the same way as before i opened it. It went from 0% to 100% with a small touch.

Probably this is the same case with you?

I would open it up and start your game and test it while changing the position of your potention meter and check with your in game settings how much % you get, while changing the potentionmeter.

I hope this helps

Edited by GioProductions
text

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 hours ago, DrDraken said:

From the photo it's not really possible to tell, but it looks like the pedal arms will move to the right when pushed?

If that's the case, then as soon as you press the pedal, the two gears will stop touching.  The teeth on the pedal part will move down, away from the other one.

I may be totally wrong.  Not sure which direction the pedal arm will be moving.

I have the exact same set.  Let me know if you still need help and I'll try to get mine apart and take a photo for you.

DrDraken, both photos are taken from the left hand side, so normal pedal use would be if the pedal arm rotated counter clockwise in these photos. I actually had to depress each pedal a little bit to get the teeth to engage.

If you can carefully open yours and take a photo of each pedal potentiometer as the teeth first engage, that would be hugely beneficial. I now assume that they are not meant to engage with the first groove. Thanks.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 hours ago, GioProductions said:

I reconise this issue.

I have the T3Pa pedals and i did open it up to change the spring in it and I had this issue also, but in my case, i did touch the potentiometer so it did not re-act the same way as before i opened it. It went from 0% to 100% with a small touch.

Probably this is the same case with you?

I would open it up and start your game and test it while changing the position of your potention meter and check with your in game settings how much % you get, while changing the potentionmeter.

I hope this helps

Hi GioProductions, I've seen firmware update videos that show the Wheel Control Panel and each bar (for clutch, brake and gas) in the Pedals section is showing 50% (see attached image of TM's latest firmware update pdf). More recently, though, I've seen videos where the values are 0%. My Control Panel shows the values as 0%.

One thing I'm going to try tomorrow is to do what you suggested, but also use the bars in the Control Panel. I'm going to adjust which groove each pedal engages with until the bar gets to 100% when the pedal is fully depressed. Then try it in game and see if it works the same as before. I'll let you know how that goes. Thanks.

T300RS_Firmware_Update_Procedure_V31.jpeg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I actually got the follow-up email from Thrustmaster support tonight after only 2 days, instead of the 15 days I was dreading. So I've replied to that and we'll see what they make of it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, Skroce said:

Hi GioProductions, I've seen firmware update videos that show the Wheel Control Panel and each bar (for clutch, brake and gas) in the Pedals section is showing 50% (see attached image of TM's latest firmware update pdf). More recently, though, I've seen videos where the values are 0%. My Control Panel shows the values as 0%.

One thing I'm going to try tomorrow is to do what you suggested, but also use the bars in the Control Panel. I'm going to adjust which groove each pedal engages with until the bar gets to 100% when the pedal is fully depressed. Then try it in game and see if it works the same as before. I'll let you know how that goes. Thanks.

T300RS_Firmware_Update_Procedure_V31.jpeg

"I'm going to adjust which groove each pedal engages with until the bar gets to 100% when the pedal is fully depressed"

 

That is what i did

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well, I had some success with the process I described and that GioProductions was pointing towards.

I changed the accelerator pedal to engage with the third groove and in the Control Panel the bar went to 100% just before the pedal movement reached 100%.

I changed the brake pedal to engage with the fifth groove with the same result.

The feel/in-game effect of both pedals is very different to before, but perfectly functional. After a little while I can make this feeling the new normal. I haven't heard back from Thrustmaster yet, but if they comment something useful I will report it here. Thanks very much for the assistance.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 minutes ago, Skroce said:

Well, I had some success with the process I described and that GioProductions was pointing towards.

I changed the accelerator pedal to engage with the third groove and in the Control Panel the bar went to 100% just before the pedal movement reached 100%.

I changed the brake pedal to engage with the fifth groove with the same result.

The feel/in-game effect of both pedals is very different to before, but perfectly functional. After a little while I can make this feeling the new normal. I haven't heard back from Thrustmaster yet, but if they comment something useful I will report it here. Thanks very much for the assistance.

Just delete the hardware_settings_config.xml and verify Steam files.

OR uninstall the driver, go into the Game Controller properties and recalibrate the pedals then reinstall the Thrustmaster driver.

Had the exact same issue with the 2 pedal set with a more basic controller (Ferrari GT Experience on PS3) but just re-initialised the controller on the console and it was fine. That happened with putting the gear cogs in exactly the same place. So it's a bit the PC or console has to re-learn the upper and lower limits. As long as the pedal is registering along the full travel then the actual values are irrelevant. If it settles down into an imperfect state, then playing with the saturation and deadzone can tune out the difference in feel. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 7/6/2020 at 10:06 PM, steviejay69 said:

Just delete the hardware_settings_config.xml and verify Steam files.

OR uninstall the driver, go into the Game Controller properties and recalibrate the pedals then reinstall the Thrustmaster driver.

Had the exact same issue with the 2 pedal set with a more basic controller (Ferrari GT Experience on PS3) but just re-initialised the controller on the console and it was fine. That happened with putting the gear cogs in exactly the same place. So it's a bit the PC or console has to re-learn the upper and lower limits. As long as the pedal is registering along the full travel then the actual values are irrelevant. If it settles down into an imperfect state, then playing with the saturation and deadzone can tune out the difference in feel. 

Hi steviejay69,

Can you please explain a couple of things for me that I don't know how to do.

- "go into the Game Controller properties and recalibrate the pedals". How do you recalibrate the pedals?

- "just reinitialise the controller on the console". How do you reinitialise the controller on PS4?

Thanks.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, Skroce said:

Hi steviejay69,

Can you please explain a couple of things for me that I don't know how to do.

- "go into the Game Controller properties and recalibrate the pedals". How do you recalibrate the pedals?

- "just reinitialise the controller on the console". How do you reinitialise the controller on PS4?

Thanks.

If you remove the Thrustmaster software (uninstall it) the pedals will show in the 'Devices and Printers' Control Panel item. From there they can be recalibrated (AFAIK). Then once you have done that, install the Thrustmaster software again. This will only work on a PC.

There may be corruption issues on your PS4 console that affects your controller. You can try restarting your PS4 console completely to see if this can fix the issue:

1) Press the power button on your PS4 console and hold it until you hear the second beep. Then release the button.

2) Unplug the power cable and the controller that wouldn’t connect from the console.

3) Leave your PS4 for 2-3 minutes.

4) Plug the power cable and the controller back to the console.

5) Turn your PS4 on. Check the controller to see if it works fine now.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)

Well, It's taken a while, but TM finally replied to my query. They provided me with a unrelated pdf file about changing the main pedal springs (which they acknowledge is unrelated), but it contained a photo showing how to position the potentiometer sprocket relative to the pedal arm.

As coincidence would have it, I ended up setting my gas pedal to the position they show, but my brake pedal ended up being set differently. I've replied and asked them to clarify whether both pedals are set the same or differently.

2Pedals_set_Brake_Gas_springs_en.pdf

 

EDIT: After waiting a month for their response they responded overnight to my follow-up query. They say that both pedal arms should be set the same, as above.

Edited by Skroce
TM follow-up query response added.
  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×