Erudain 49 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 and another race gone....watching Charles get overtaken like a turtle on the main straigth in 5 consecutive laps by 5 different teams was painful. Even after the 2nd red fllag and the last restart the car clearly didn't have the pace to go pass Kimi or pull away from George, if it wasn't for the 5secs penalty Kimi would have ended ahead of them. Then I jump to the game and have Charles leading the WDC and making poles left and right... 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stevetemp7 19 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 There is as much chance of Ferrari getting nerfed in this game as there was of them getting punished for cheating for 2 seasons. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TurkeySloth2107 79 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Just wait around a month. There's an article stating it'll happen in (mid-)October. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
naim786 24 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 I for one cannot understand why a performance patch takes so damn long 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ZtwoA 92 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, naim786 said: I for one cannot understand why a performance patch takes so damn long cuz they have to get data...and it has to be from more that few races to get good understanding where ever car is placed on the grid the look for more complex data and numbers than just watching races i reckon so yea that;s why 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AllenB2609 353 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Lmao Codemasters 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KulishS 160 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 L 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Krisperfectline 70 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 On 9/11/2020 at 3:08 PM, Ultra3142 said: Indeed. Also Codemasters need to decide and implement precisely how to 'nerf' (stupid term!) the Ferrari car's performance. I am interested in this. I think their engine and drag will be drastically nerfed. I am not sure about their chassis or aero downforce. I think their tyre wear must be nerfed, but not sure about aero and weight performance. This will be quite tough to be honest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tomasslb24 45 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 18 minutes ago, Krisperfectline said: I am interested in this. I think their engine and drag will be drastically nerfed. I am not sure about their chassis or aero downforce. I think their tyre wear must be nerfed, but not sure about aero and weight performance. This will be quite tough to be honest. For sure that the engine and the chassis are one of the problems of that car. About durability and aero, probably nerfed too but not as much as the engine and the chassis. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GPKing 11 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Can't wait to see Ferrari in midfield! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
janbonator 301 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 9 hours ago, sergey_blackbird said: L Few things to note: Grosjean and Räikkönen drove with a damaged car from lap 1. Stroll's pace in this chart was affected by him not running with new softs and a light fuel load at the end because of his crash. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marioho 689 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, janbonator said: Grosjean and Räikkönen drove with a damaged car from lap 1. Stroll's pace in this chart was affected by him not running with new softs and a light fuel load at the end because of his crash. Meaning thank god I get to just enjoy the game and don't have to deal with prickly consumers or tricky data evaluation and coding. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saukisu 52 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 On 7/7/2020 at 7:46 PM, BarryBL said: Exactly @AllenB2609, we couldn't. The issue is, when the game got into that phase, we had limited pre-season data to use rather than the scheduled 8 race weekends (so practice, quali and full races) we would've had. Take Austria for the easiest example. All numbers are very rough. 71 laps in race, A race programme for each driver - Assume another 71 laps in Practice, Other practice programs - 50 laps, 5 laps in Quali, Per Driver = 197 laps. Round that to 200. Per driver. 4000 laps per race weekend. So 3000-4000 laps per weekend x 8 races we would've had data for - Between 24,000 and 32,000 laps of data we didn't have this year to judge performance off before release. So we had to base it on the next best logical thing. Looks like it wasn't totally accurate, but to be expected. It is a very exceptional circumstance to have the game release the same time the season starts, because season starting is a great unknown to everyone. Remember, we have builds the game far before the planned Austria GP. Will it be updated soon in October? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gonira 21 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 On 9/13/2020 at 3:13 PM, ZtwoA said: cuz they have to get data...and it has to be from more that few races to get good understanding where ever car is placed on the grid the look for more complex data and numbers than just watching races i reckon so yea that;s why If I'm not mistaken, they also need to get authorization from the parts involved to make these changes, so it's not that simple. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
s00zster 300 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 I hope it's soon. I quit my old career save weeks ago and have been waiting to start afresh with the correct performances. Tying myself in knots waiting for it. 😁 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MichaelDecker 8 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Hope they add it soon. Its been how many months tho. But i like how they wanna get bugs fixed. I remember the past few years they got bitched at for not fixing them fast enough. I hope the Performance patch is a big update so its worth the wait haha. But in already in season 2 now (that or 3 been a couple weeks since ive played) and Ferrari and Redbull dropped so the patch for me wouldn't be big (even tho Ferrari power unit teams will drop more). Just keep the work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DREAMACHINE 6 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Yes but performance car patch out or not?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Schneehase 220 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 This is so overdue... October 2020 and we are playing with 2019 performance values, still. What was that reason again we buy a full priced game every season? Ah, I see... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aef251 95 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 We’ve only had 9 races, which is about as many as we would have had when the game came out if Covid had not happened. The performance patch does not usually drop on day 1 from what I recall, and you need varying tracks to get an idea of how the cars differ from track to track. Sooooo while it is October, it is not that unreasonable to not have had a performance patch. And since I play My Team and Career exclusively- the patch is meaningless after a few races anyway. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TurkeySloth2107 79 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 It’s not even two days into October for most players. Give it a week or so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tomasslb24 45 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Aef251 said: We’ve only had 9 races, which is about as many as we would have had when the game came out if Covid had not happened. The performance patch does not usually drop on day 1 from what I recall, and you need varying tracks to get an idea of how the cars differ from track to track. Sooooo while it is October, it is not that unreasonable to not have had a performance patch. And since I play My Team and Career exclusively- the patch is meaningless after a few races anyway. You clearly didn't understand what I was saying. You have different tracks that requires different setups and consequently different performances. Not only that, the drivers make the difference too. If you compare the performance of the ferrari in austria/silverstone with monza/spa you clearly see that overall the car was slower. And the same happens to AT, McLaren and Renault, but for the best. So they need to have a lot, and when I say a lot, is really A LOT of info to make the performance as precise and balanced (for a better experience) as possible. PS: We had 8 grand prix, but only 6 different tracks. With the performance patch coming in mid-october, if im not wrong, we'll have more 3 different tracks (mugello, russia and nurburgring), so 9 tracks, which is equivalent to 651 laps and around 3.078.655 KM raced. PS.2: F1 2019 came out in 25th June, that was 8 grand prix later of the start of the championship of that season. F1 18 came out 12 grand prix later. So technically they have the right to take this time for the performance patch. Already talked about it. This was an answer i gave to someone some time ago. Tough I want the performance patch, i think it can be game breaking but really hope not. Maybe we could get it this next monday (5th october), because we gonna have tracks that we don't have in-game, however performance may be important to evaluate a little bit more and they said mid-october. But.....if not monday, maybe after nurburgring. Edited October 2, 2020 by Tomasslb24 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Schneehase 220 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 (edited) Concerning performance values in general - why not have some sort of sliders for engine power, that we can fiddle ourselves with? Sure, it is not that easy, but that way developers will not violate any obligations which might hinder them to come up with the patch, plus they buy themselves a lot more time, might spare them a ton of work, too. Who knows, if community can experiment with engine data in the game, maybe that even turns out positive in the end, with a set of values that receive general acknowledgement? Are engine values open to modding, where are the values stored and how can we access them, if this does not happen from Codemasters themselves? Edited October 3, 2020 by Schneehase Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TurkeySloth2107 79 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Schneehase said: Concerning performance values in general - why not have some sort of sliders for engine power, that we can fiddle ourselves with? Sure, it is not that easy, but that way developers will not violate any obligations which might hinder them to come up with the patch, plus they buy themselves a lot more time, might spare them a ton of work, too. Who knows, if community can experiment with engine data in the game, maybe that even turns out positive in the end, with a set of values that receive general acknowledgement? Are engine values open to modding, where are the values stored and how can we access them, if this does not happen from Codemasters themselves? Actually, there's no way this happens because it's far more complex than just adding sliders as there'd have to be code that ties cost to the changes made. Edited October 3, 2020 by TurkeySloth2107 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SomaticCoast375 51 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Codemasters need to hurry up because it’s very clear who’s fast and who’s not Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tarrantino 142 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 The state of some of the comments on here. Don’t bother reading the thread or understanding how this works. Codies will also have to get this signed off by all the teams. Will Ferrari want to look as bad on the game as IRL? It has become clearer but to get it right they want as much data as possible. Guarantee that they’ll be people moaning things haven’t been done right even when it arrives. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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