gmd1970 0 Posted July 1, 2015 OMG common sence says pre orders are stupid the point of them is to binde you to a transaction in a shop or online and tell me when did a game sellout on release its a CON and the extras u get oh look ive got a tin box oh look a peace of plastic crap are cheap gimmicks for the gullible . I garrentee you all that pre orderd this on that day you will walk in to GAME etc and there will be f12015 on displey and in the pre ownd 3 days later after they find out how little content is in this gloryfide dlc pack coz that is what it basically is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikea330 0 Posted July 1, 2015 Pre-ordered on Steam. Looking forward to it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Berad88 0 Posted July 1, 2015 At one time pre ordering was stupid. Now that I buy all my games digitally pre ordering is convenient. The game downloads then on the day the game is released you can instantly play it. No waiting for the game store to open, the mail to show up, or standing outside some store for a midnight release. Pre ordering is far from stupid if you know you want the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ImDyingYouIdiot 0 Posted July 1, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV69DyOuzbE Berad88 said: At one time pre ordering was stupid. Now that I buy all my games digitally pre ordering is convenient. The game downloads then on the day the game is released you can instantly play it. No waiting for the game store to open, the mail to show up, or standing outside some store for a midnight release. Pre ordering is far from stupid if you know you want the game. Sooo, just because you can download the game now, pre-ordering is no longer stupid. All right, then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedBantha95 0 Posted July 1, 2015 Given that this forum is probably only used by the more 'hardcore' type fans of F1/racing it's quite staggering to see that at least a quarter of those people won't be buying the game, at least to begin with (Taking into account those that will be buying it in sale). Even though I have pre-ordered, it strongly suggests CM have got it wrong in terms of giving the consumer what they want. It will be interesting to see how sales fare for the game because I suspect no career mode is a big drawback for some people, but next-gen is a big plus point for others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liaveil 137 Posted July 1, 2015 ImDyingYouIdiot said: Berad88 said: At one time pre ordering was stupid. Now that I buy all my games digitally pre ordering is convenient. The game downloads then on the day the game is released you can instantly play it. No waiting for the game store to open, the mail to show up, or standing outside some store for a midnight release. Pre ordering is far from stupid if you know you want the game. Sooo, just because you can download the game now, pre-ordering is no longer stupid. All right, then.It never was stupid. If someone knows they're going to like a game then why wouldn't they pre-order to make certain they'll get their copy on day one? It doesn't cost anything extra (Unless there's a specific bundle for pre-order only but they're always parallel to a standalone copy of the game anyway). If someones unsure about whether they will enjoy a game then they're not likely to pre-order are they? If someone blindly pre-orders a game without knowing anything about it then that makes them stupid, not the idea of pre-orders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humplick 0 Posted July 1, 2015 Already purchased on steam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ImDyingYouIdiot 0 Posted July 1, 2015 Wynterdust said: ImDyingYouIdiot said: Berad88 said: At one time pre ordering was stupid. Now that I buy all my games digitally pre ordering is convenient. The game downloads then on the day the game is released you can instantly play it. No waiting for the game store to open, the mail to show up, or standing outside some store for a midnight release. Pre ordering is far from stupid if you know you want the game. Sooo, just because you can download the game now, pre-ordering is no longer stupid. All right, then.It never was stupid. If someone knows they're going to like a game then why wouldn't they pre-order to make certain they'll get their copy on day one? It doesn't cost anything extra (Unless there's a specific bundle for pre-order only but they're always parallel to a standalone copy of the game anyway). If someones unsure about whether they will enjoy a game then they're not likely to pre-order are they? If someone blindly pre-orders a game without knowing anything about it then that makes them stupid, not the idea of pre-orders. Yeah, I mean, what could possibly go wrong? Just look at the PC release of Arkham Knight. Besides, I don't agree with the notion that you can know beforehand whether or not you're going to enjoy a game. At least not without playing it at least once. That just sounds like blind fanboyism, which is even stupider.Also, just why can't anyone wait for proper reviews first and then buy the game? Is it really going to make a difference if you're getting the game 1 or 2 days later than the release date? The answer is, no. Well, unless you're a child with no patience whatsoever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liaveil 137 Posted July 2, 2015 You're more likely to get taken seriously by not generalising a whole group of people as impatient children and using the word fanboyism... Fanboyism...One of the most idiotic terms the internet has ever conjured up.Reviews are only opinions and should only be used as things to consider rather than making a choice for someone. One could say that deciding whether to or not to buy something based on a few peoples opinions is just as daft. I've played a number of games that have received negative reviews and thoroughly enjoyed them and others with excellent reviews and hated. True, you'll never know whether you truly like a game until you play it yourself but since I, and others who have pre-ordered have enjoyed the previous installments, it's highly likely we will like this one so we pre-ordered. (Well that's why I did anyway, I imagine others thought a similar thing). Anyway, if it wasn't for us "impatient children" then there wouldn't be any reviews in the first place would there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blowndiffuser 0 Posted July 2, 2015 Btw, just a thought for all you who are not purchasing the game: any hope for this game improving relies solely on the shoulders of us who are buying it to ensure they have the money and resources to make subsequent games better and improve them with the features you're all wanting.I'm all for voting with your wallet (and even suggested it in another thread) and standing on principal, but at the end of the day it's just that much harder to deliver the game you guys want. Just something to consider. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gmd1970 0 Posted July 2, 2015 ok but dont come on hear on the 11th crying that you lost 45 quide on this disaster . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blowndiffuser 0 Posted July 2, 2015 I spend a more than that filling up my gas tank so I think I'll be fine. Also I don't think my expectations are the same as yours so there's another reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ImDyingYouIdiot 0 Posted July 2, 2015 Wynterdust said: You're more likely to get taken seriously by not generalising a whole group of people as impatient children and using the word fanboyism... Fanboyism...One of the most idiotic terms the internet has ever conjured up.Reviews are only opinions and should only be used as things to consider rather than making a choice for someone. One could say that deciding whether to or not to buy something based on a few peoples opinions is just as daft. I've played a number of games that have received negative reviews and thoroughly enjoyed them and others with excellent reviews and hated. True, you'll never know whether you truly like a game until you play it yourself but since I, and others who have pre-ordered have enjoyed the previous installments, it's highly likely we will like this one so we pre-ordered. (Well that's why I did anyway, I imagine others thought a similar thing). Anyway, if it wasn't for us "impatient children" then there wouldn't be any reviews in the first place would there? True, I am however sick and tired of people throwing money at stuff of which they can't even be sure is worth a damn. But that's my problem.Well, what else is it the? Brand loyalty? Sounds just as bad, cos then you're buying a name, but not quality.Which is why you choose a few reviewers who's opinion you know you agree with the most and then go from there. Besides, like I said, reviews are a usually a good indication whether or not the game itself is even optimized. I know, console players usually don't give a damn about that.Actually there would be; press copies and stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Operator1 4 Posted July 2, 2015 blowndiffuser said: Btw, just a thought for all you who are not purchasing the game: any hope for this game improving relies solely on the shoulders of us who are buying it to ensure they have the money and resources to make subsequent games better and improve them with the features you're all wanting.I'm all for voting with your wallet (and even suggested it in another thread) and standing on principal, but at the end of the day it's just that much harder to deliver the game you guys want. Just something to consider. LOL! Backwards "logic" is backwards... Paying for something you don't like doesn't give the seller incentive to deliver more of what you want - it gives the seller incentive to continue delivering less & pocketing the difference. Why invest more in better quality when people will keep paying for worse? If you want more of people's money, you deliver more of what people want to buy, not less. Voting with your wallet by purchasing is a vote that tells the seller to continue doing what they've been doing - and I won't "vote" for that. They'll need to do better if they want my money. Besides, I'm not a charity that hands over my money to "support" game developers - I'm a customer who hands over my money in a fair exchange for quality & enjoyable gaming experiences. "...Any hope for this game improving relies solely on the shoulders of" the game's creators, and if they don't respond to customer feedback by incorporating better quality & highly-requested features in their games, then they lose customers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blowndiffuser 0 Posted July 2, 2015 @Operator1 I never said to pay for something you don't like. My point was if it's going to get better it's going to be because they have the resources to do it and that, will come from sales - which is the case for any for-profit business. I think this is the reason the move to next-gen was such a challenge for them and why there's less features than previous years.You sound really jaded about CM and I think that's the fundamental difference in our opinions. With minor exceptions I think they've done a good job with the series. You on the other hand seem to feel quite the opposite. I see a company who's passionate about racing and F1 and if they could make something better, they would. You seem to think they're just trying to take peoples hard-earned money and don't care about the game since it doesn't fit your idea of what an F1 game should be like. This seems odd to me as the evidence about their passion for the sport is all around. The amount of detail that goes into this game is not on par with anyone trying to phone a game in. It could be much, much worse.Your links at the bottom of each of your posts just show how jilted you are. It's quite sad too because I can't imagine how someone could be so miserable about something so trivial in life. Anyway, different strokes for different folks I guess.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Operator1 4 Posted July 2, 2015 blowndiffuser said: @Operator1 I never said to pay for something you don't like. My point was if it's going to get better it's going to be because they have the resources to do it and that, will come from sales - which is the case for any for-profit business. I think this is the reason the move to next-gen was such a challenge for them and why there's less features than previous years.You sound really jaded about CM and I think that's the fundamental difference in our opinions. With minor exceptions I think they've done a good job with the series. You on the other hand seem to feel quite the opposite. I see a company who's passionate about racing and F1 and if they could make something better, they would. You seem to think they're just trying to take peoples hard-earned money and don't care about the game since it doesn't fit your idea of what an F1 game should be like. This seems odd to me as the evidence about their passion for the sport is all around. The amount of detail that goes into this game is not on par with anyone trying to phone a game in. It could be much, much worse.Your links at the bottom of each of your posts just show how jilted you are. It's quite sad too because I can't imagine how someone could be so miserable about something so trivial in life. Anyway, different strokes for different folks I guess.. If it's going to get better, it's going to be because they need the sales... and they won't ever need the sales bad enough to bother improving anything if people keep settling & buying no matter how low the quality continues to drop.Stop making personal remarks & assumptions about me - calling me "jaded" & "jilted" & "miserable" - just because I have a different perspective than yours. Just because you don't have a better rationale to support your assertions, that doesn't make it acceptable for you to make disparaging comments about me as a person - nor does it lend any more validity to your point of view. I guess I should go back to responding to you using only memes since you've (again) demonstrated such poor ability to carry on civil discussions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Berad88 0 Posted July 2, 2015 ImDyingYouIdiot said: Wynterdust said: You're more likely to get taken seriously by not generalising a whole group of people as impatient children and using the word fanboyism... Fanboyism...One of the most idiotic terms the internet has ever conjured up.Reviews are only opinions and should only be used as things to consider rather than making a choice for someone. One could say that deciding whether to or not to buy something based on a few peoples opinions is just as daft. I've played a number of games that have received negative reviews and thoroughly enjoyed them and others with excellent reviews and hated. True, you'll never know whether you truly like a game until you play it yourself but since I, and others who have pre-ordered have enjoyed the previous installments, it's highly likely we will like this one so we pre-ordered. (Well that's why I did anyway, I imagine others thought a similar thing). Anyway, if it wasn't for us "impatient children" then there wouldn't be any reviews in the first place would there? True, I am however sick and tired of people throwing money at stuff of which they can't even be sure is worth a damn. But that's my problem.Well, what else is it the? Brand loyalty? Sounds just as bad, cos then you're buying a name, but not quality.Which is why you choose a few reviewers who's opinion you know you agree with the most and then go from there. Besides, like I said, reviews are a usually a good indication whether or not the game itself is even optimized. I know, console players usually don't give a damn about that.Actually there would be; press copies and stuff. My decision to pre order the game is based on a few things, The fact that I am a fan of F1, the E3 footage and feedback from those that played the game, and the fact that I have played most of the other (skipped 2014) codemaster F1 games and found them to be enjoyable. I thnk that is all plenty of reason to pre order a game. Now for a story about reviews. I actually bought the first Grid game a little while after it came out because it had super high review scores and I knew people that absolutely loved it and it turned out to be one of the worst racing games I ever played in my life. That's why I don't care about review scores. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blowndiffuser 0 Posted July 2, 2015 @Operator1 Then I think you have a problem because at the moment 88% of the members who've responded to this pole are buying this game in spite of any issues they have with it and I doubt the story is any different on the outside.And I'm not making personal remarks because you have a different opinion, sorry. I'm making observations about someone who's incessant negativity around here is so toxic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XeroXray 0 Posted July 2, 2015 I don't have that many reasons for preorder.I just love F1, and this is the only game in the market that represent this sport.So deal, you got me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Operator1 4 Posted July 2, 2015 blowndiffuser said: @Operator1 Then I think you have a problem because at the moment 88% of the members who've responded to this pole are buying this game in spite of any issues they have with it and I doubt the story is any different on the outside.And I'm not making personal remarks because you have a different opinion, sorry. I'm making observations about someone who's incessant negativity around here is so toxic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ImDyingYouIdiot 0 Posted July 2, 2015 XeroXray said: I don't have that many reasons for preorder.I just love F1, and this is the only game in the market that represent this sport.So deal, you got me. I never quite got this argument. What you're saying is sounds like, "I'm a fan of F1, so I'll buy anything, even if it's crap".Shouldn't it be like, "I'm a fan of F1, so the product it represents should be more than decent, otherwise you won't get my money"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Encarnia 10 Posted July 2, 2015 I have enjoyed every single installment of this game, despite it's bugs. Also everything I've seen so far of this game (at E3, especially ISR video), along with the fact that it's the first next gen version and features both 2014 and 2015) is enough for me to justify a pre-order.The decision to pre-order is something everyone needs to make for themselves, sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. But it doesn't make anyone an idiot for doing so. For me I purchase most games in a 50% or 75% discount bin on steam, but there are titles I am hyped for and wish to play as soon as I can. Batman Arkham Knight (fortunately I don't have an AMD graphic card) and F1 2015 are two of those games, later this year the new Tomb Raider game will also be a pre-order for me.Arkham Knight worked out great for me as I'm loving the game. So the pre-order was more then worth it imho. Hopefully F1 2015 will also be worth it, but that's a risk I'm willing to take due to the reasons mentioned above. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndreaTek 0 Posted July 2, 2015 Buying On Release Day because I wanted to know which are the multiplayer mode in the game.:) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chromatic 127 Posted July 2, 2015 The lack of info in general is ridiculous at best. It's been the same old crap for quite a few year's now. I can't see myself getting the game straight away. I like gameplay and features with games not some pretty graphics system which becomes stale after a few days after playing itThe game looks alright but still I'm not convinced enough by what I've seen unless somebody decided to buy it for me on release day. Personally I would rather wait for the discounted game in the bargain basement bin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
extracurricularturd 4 Posted July 2, 2015 What I can't wait for after release is some noobs who don't think it through will see videos from the likes of Aarava and Tiametmarduk and stuff and wish they had pre-ordered for their tip book as they are horrible at the game :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites